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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: poiu123

Thats even worse. She has no issues in wanting a married man. She does not value the sanctity of marriage a long as its not hers. Her marriage,her relationship is imp. But obv someone else's is insignifacant. Apart from raghus realisation of love,there is one more realisation which is as imp and that is fromshivani's side. That it... she isnot the center of the universe,what she wants is notmore imp than wat some one else wants, the world does not run according toher wishes , her relationships are not more imp than sum1else's relationships and lastly watshe thinks is not always right.



I beg to differ here. Shi gave raghu a choice, yes. But it is his choice. He can giv up his mrg or stay in it. if he was really in love with sumi would he giv up his mrg with her? If he does, then that automatically means that he puts his babyji at the top of his priority list, n doesnt love sumi well enough. Then even if sumi was actually a good woman, wouldn't it b better for her too if he gave it up... imagine living as the wife of a man who always gives priority to another woman!

So if he gives up the mrg for her, then that would mean he doesn't hav any value to that mrg. If he doesn't, well she'll go ahead n get married to karan. Not because that is wat she wanted, but because that is wat he wanted.

N as far as babyji having a Malkin-complex, then raghu is no better. He is actually having a god-complex trying to control her life.

N the world has never run according to her wishes... she has only lost everything n everyone, no matter how hard she tries. I can't blame her for trying...

All I feel is that its not fair that shi b blamed for everything that happens... shi may b wrong, but she is not the only one...newton's third law is always in play...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: DivzOnAir



I beg to differ here. Shi gave raghu a choice, yes. But it is his choice. He can giv up his mrg or stay in it. if he was really in love with sumi would he giv up his mrg with her? If he does, then that automatically means that he puts his babyji at the top of his priority list, n doesnt love sumi well enough. Then even if sumi was actually a good woman, wouldn't it b better for her too if he gave it up... imagine living as the wife of a man who always gives priority to another woman!

So if he gives up the mrg for her, then that would mean he doesn't hav any value to that mrg. If he doesn't, well she'll go ahead n get married to karan. Not because that is wat she wanted, but because that is wat he wanted.

N as far as babyji having a Malkin-complex, then raghu is no better. He is actually having a god-complex trying to control her life.

N the world has never run according to her wishes... she has only lost everything n everyone, no matter how hard she tries. I can't blame her for trying...

All I feel is that its not fair that shi b blamed for everything that happens... shi may b wrong, but she is not the only one...newton's third law is always in play...

well said divya... completely agree... everybody has flaws n done/doing mistakes , not just one
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63
Nice post di.
The best thing i liked is shivani calling sumi naukrani.she really deserves that.And completely agree wit you that both rashi are damn stubborn.
Iam sure raghu is going to loose the war but how that makes the story interesting.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Latha.I


I can understand her pain...but by hurting him or insulting him...is she gonna get anything from it...she is just reminding him of the fact that he is her naukar again and again...Raghu I think has no choice but to take her taunts...because he is used her arrogance as a naukar...and he claiming himself as her naukar...if she gives a back answer to her again we will find fault with him only...he is sttubborn to her only when it comes to his personal life...that is marrying her...but as naukar...he will take any amount of humiliation...if shivani is failing to understand that...it means she has never understood Raghu...




Latha he does hv the right to hv his life as he wants .. but the point is does he really hv a life beyond Shivani ?? In his own words he said I dunno what I m gonna do once Shivani goes from here ... so somewhere Shivani's assumption is right that whether he loves her or not , he cant do without her either ... thats not exactly the case with Karan ... Karan's life dont revolve only around Ginni .. but Raghu's life right from start we hv seen revolves only around Shivani ... in fact after fake marriage too , he stops Shivani from leaving his room on his so called suhaagrat with Sumitra ... Which husband will do that ?? So these signals r enough for Shivani to guess that his life too is stuck at her only ...

Shivani is impulsive in nature and so many times what she says or what she does r actually her blunders for which she repents later ... she is not the typical saintly female leads we r used to see in the shows who does all things perfect ... Her challenge or her outburst yesterday r wrong for sure but its because she loves Raghu to the extent of obsession and is ready to do anything and everything to win him back ... whether her actions r right or wrong is something we r seeing as a viewer but for her she feels she is doing it right .. there is noone exactly to guide her in it either ... not even her friends or relatives ... Same goes for Raghu too ... they both r doing all sort of blunders because they hv none to guide ..

Just how Raghu has no choice but to take her taunts as a naukar because he has to prove a point to Shivani here out of ego clash .. same applies for Shivani too ... her ego has come in the way too and wants to prove a point to Raghu now as malkin ... of course she is wrong with her ways ... but it makes her character all the more interesting too because we r curious to see how Raghu will take it on a daily basis and will he give up on the way or react which might surprise us tomorrow 😛



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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: -Sheena-



That's so true... 😆

Both are stuck to what they know best and both are wrong in how they respond to each other... They haven't really changed the basic method of what to do when one us upset the other goes to his old mould and when the other is upset she behaves in the way she is used to...

Unfortunately as viewers we can see where they are both should improve and it's almost like we need to give the danda to both to start thinking and behaving differently... 😆😆




They need to stay away from each other for sometime and then might automatically realise their mistake 😆😆

I guess the new article with new entry will open a new chapter with Shivani moving to this new relatives ka house and Raghu this time wooing her back as a lover jusst like the other show 😉😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: dhakarn



Agree that it will look humiliating to certain viewers but not to all... in fact my roommate ws telling ha! He asked for iit ! ... ...hmmm... about getting paid thing... we know that raghu told it to hurt shivani n make her hate him...he didn't mean it at all...infact he has always maintained that he is her naukar only... inly when karan came into pic n he had this brilliant ifea of getting her married off to him he started behaving like as if he wants payment... it is not a job for him... its 'seva' n unwavering loyalty...but we know his feeling run deeper n what he actually fears is his insecurities n the fact that babihi will have to lead a poor life...

Yeah thats true as well .. he did ask for it .. I was talking more about the tone or language .. at times too much blunt dialogues might not go down well with family viewers as well ... CVs need not throw too much of humiliating dialogues just to show the malkin-naukar equation .. subtleness was what might b missing in that scene I felt 🤔

I think sumi will react now...she is not going to sit idle after being called a naukarani...

yeah .. I hope she does and exposes herself 😆

Ofcourse shivani needs to change strategy... but she is impulsive n in ur face ...she doesn't pretend n don't know how to hide her feelings... she was crying her heart out when raghu came with the kangan... he knows perfectly well her state of mind as only a moment ago she was asking him to leave sumi n ready to bresk martiage with karan... yet he casually tells her look what karan sir send u!!...on top of that he tells her things whuch surely aren't his duty to do so...just as it isn't his call whom she is to marry...he tells her to marry karan...tthen tells her not to marry karan..then again tells her to marry karan...never thinking what she is going through...she had been driven to a corner... n shivani reacted... it was spontaneous ...impulsive... letting all her pain n anger out...indtant reaction...but i think she also wanted to show him the real naukar malkin relation...which was not the case with these two... even if raghu thinks he is a naukar , in his subconscious he is not ... now that she has set specific boundaries he may realise where all he had been crossing them all along...


yup thats what I felt .. its was a spontaneous reaction and we know she is impulsive in nature plus its human nature to always vent out our frustation on that person who is closest to us .. Shivani does the same ... Raghu too should try to maintain a distance from Shivani now and dont add more salt to her wounds and same for Shivani too .. its that much neeeded distance both needs right now ...

Ofcourse raghu will remain stubborn ... but shivani doesn' t know snother way to goad him a final time... may b she eill find out another way once she sees karan...

I hope as per new article , with new entires , she finds another way and just leaves the house and mayb city too .. let Raghu come after her this time 😛

I think these ' humiliations' will continue... she will b doing it to get a reaction from him desperately... but he won't relent...so the battle will continue... only solace is that the naukar will finally start to realise how much un-naukar like he was / is feeling... he will fight it...no doubt ... but that is needed... so i don't think the story will b moving in circles... rather i think we get a RP track...

I hope he realises it because if he dont then no use of the whole track ... lets see .. obviously the track might b ending in few days if that new entry is happening in couple of days 🤔


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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: DivzOnAir



I beg to differ here. Shi gave raghu a choice, yes. But it is his choice. He can giv up his mrg or stay in it. if he was really in love with sumi would he giv up his mrg with her? If he does, then that automatically means that he puts his babyji at the top of his priority list, n doesnt love sumi well enough. Then even if sumi was actually a good woman, wouldn't it b better for her too if he gave it up... imagine living as the wife of a man who always gives priority to another woman!

So if he gives up the mrg for her, then that would mean he doesn't hav any value to that mrg. If he doesn't, well she'll go ahead n get married to karan. Not because that is wat she wanted, but because that is wat he wanted.

N as far as babyji having a Malkin-complex, then raghu is no better. He is actually having a god-complex trying to control her life.

N the world has never run according to her wishes... she has only lost everything n everyone, no matter how hard she tries. I can't blame her for trying...

All I feel is that its not fair that shi b blamed for everything that happens... shi may b wrong, but she is not the only one...newton's third law is always in play...




I agree actually .. u cannot clap with just one hand ... it needs two hands to clap ...

Marriage is made a joke by Raghu and Shivani both

If Shivani gave him choices for marriage then he too went onto do a fake marriage with Sumi to fulfill the choice ... isn't fake marriage a mockery of the institution of marriage too and then he was ready to even break that fake marriage just for the sake of Shivani's safety without thinking about Sumi's dignity ... again dint he play with the whole institution of marriage here ...She gives him a choice but its his wish to go ahead with the choice or not ...


So yup I see both equally at fault

one mayb impulsive on your face blunt ... other mayb doing it in a subtle and hidden way .. but nevethless both hv done mistakes ..


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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: -Sheena-


But this trait of her that the other person to react and give what she wants is also quite dangerous. .. what if her plan backfires and only sends raghu to be more stubborn to fulfil Shivani wishes...

At times I feel that Shivani expects others to do the work and her to give instructions... If raghu is in naukar mindset I feel Shivani too has her malkin mindset only because she was given everything on the platter as per her wish and demand, so hadn't had to work to fight for herself...



Thats true .. they both r yet to come out of their respective mindsets and thats the main problem ... Once they forget the whole malkin-naukar ego clash and see each other as normal man and woman , then automatically there wont b any expectations or ego at all ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: Uma-Arhaanfan

Nice post di.
The best thing i liked is shivani calling sumi naukrani.she really deserves that.And completely agree wit you that both rashi are damn stubborn.
Iam sure raghu is going to loose the war but how that makes the story interesting.




Lets hope Raghu looses his heart too 😉😳

And yeah Sumi sort of deserved it . .. I m not sure if Shivani was right in calling her that but a person like Sumo deserves all that name calling especially after what she did with Ginni
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@jyoti : agree ... the tone could have been a bit subtle ... but then there won't be 'drama'...😆
hmm... hope the new entry track is handled carefully ... i remember chaitanya entered pratigya too n that mumbai track was one of the worstly executed ones , ofcourse only sec to abhimanyu track n arushi-KN track!
eagerly waiting of marriage drama to unfold... BTW we got news that new entries r coming... but we didn't hear anything from either puru or yashashree about their tracks ending!!!! ...wonder what's happening? they r still on? i don't mind actualy , only sumi need to be exposed ... she can come back later as a super evil 😆

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