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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: -Sheena-


I agree they can't mess with the title of their show..

Whereas I feel other shows on zee are not love stories oriented but the concepts are different but because of the love angle the shows have a following... multiple marriages and splitting of lead pairs seem more justifiable as their concept is different...

Here the concept is the two hearts joined by a thread which means their love story is their main concept .

Hope I made little sense. .. 😆



Yeah u make perfect sense 😆

other show where lead jodi is broken is actually a uttaran kind of show only and from the beginning u know that lead couple wont unite as two girls r involved ...


here right from beginning it was always about RaShi only tieed to a common dori and thats where the title has to b justified ...

Also zee tv when it comes ot love stories of two people , hv never broken a jodi .. for example hitler didi , punarvivah 1 , choti bahu 1 and 2 ... all these show had one jodi from start to end ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: poiu123

I did not like the naukrani taunt for Sumitra. If shivani considers raghu as her naukar, it does not mean his wife and familybecome naukars as well. Also malkins are not rude to their servants. Thats not acceptable. If she wanted to make the naukar malkin act real, then she shud have politely told him not to overstep his boundaries and kept a strictly impersonal relnship. But no , she yelled at him and top of then told him to personally take care of her wedding arrangements. Thats normally wat family members do, we dont let a naukar do wedding arrangements, So Shivani also needs to learn wat a malkin-naukar reln is .
Also shecan always call off the wedding , is she gng ahead with it to take some twisted revenge onRaghu and hurt Karan as well in the process? Why was she blaming Raghu for the challenge she had thrown at him?
Karan deserves better,



agree with you...before she takes clssess to others...she has to 1st learn few lessons...1st she has to learn from Ginni...how to understand a man...once he says he doesn't love her...Ginni left him...not like shivani...making his life a hell...

which malkin will order her naukar to look of marriage arrangements...she has brother who is still alive...y can't she go to his brother...and save her self respect...

and how much is she paying to Raghu and his wife to use their services...if Raghu asks money to make her marriage arrangements where will she hide her face...

she can't respect him...but claims she loves him...😡


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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Latha.I



agree with you...before she takes clssess to others...she has to 1st learn few lessons...1st she has to learn from Ginni...how to understand a man...once he says he doesn't love her...Ginni left him...not like shivani...making his life a hell...

which malkin will order her naukar to look of marriage arrangements...she has brother who is still alive...y can't she go to his brother...and save her self respect...

and how much is she paying to Raghu and his wife to use their services...if Raghu asks money to make her marriage arrangements where will she hide her face...

she can't respect him...but claims she loves him...😡





Na there is a difference

Ginni actually left him because she herself realised her love was a bachpana which she said it to all ... but Shivani knows her love is not exactly a bachpana but genuine and thats where she is not ready to give up ... if she had doubts on her own love , then she too would hv given up like Ginni

Plus another factor , here Karan is clear that he loves Shivani and so cannot love anyone ... But Raghu so far is yet to actually tell it clearly to Shivani that he loves Sumitra or anyone else ... he just kept saying he cannot love her because he is her naukar and he is marrying Sumi because he promised her .. nowhere he said he loves another person which Karan made it clear to Ginni

so thats the difference in both cases

Also Raghu always has a choice not to listen to Shivani's whims and fancies ...isn't it .. in fact Shivani too wants Raghu to react and actually tell her I m no more your servant ... thats what Shivani too wants to hear but Raghu is quietly listening to all her orders as well and thats what is making her more stubborn ... If Shivani has her choices then Raghu has his choices too .. both r free actually not to listen to each other but both r failing to do so and thats where whole ego comes in the picture
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: jyoti06



I actually enjoyed when she gave back to Sumi ..😆😆 ... but I wonder if this will raise Sumi's BP and she does some other mess in the process 😕


bold: definitely. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06




Na there is a difference

Ginni actually left him because she herself realised her love was a bachpana which she said it to all ... but Shivani knows her love is not exactly a bachpana but genuine and thats where she is not ready to give up ... if she had doubts on her own love , then she too would hv given up like Ginni

If shivani is so sure of her Love she would have never agreed to marry Karan...she always had that choice to reject...she couldn't have thought of putting such conditions like u marry sumi I will marry Karan... the thought of marrying another person would kill some one who is really in Love but she is heading for the marriage...what if nothing happens and marriage takes place...will she accept her fate then...only satisfaction she will get at end is that she tortured Raghu...that's it...
Plus another factor , here Karan is clear that he loves Shivani and so cannot love anyone ... But Raghu so far is yet to actually tell it clearly to Shivani that he loves Sumitra or anyone else ... he just kept saying he cannot love her because he is her naukar and he is marrying Sumi because he promised her .. nowhere he said he loves another person which Karan made it clear to Ginni

well Raghu is not in love with anyone doesn't mean she has a right over his heart...he is not vacant appartment to be filled in by some one...every person has his or her own opinion of marrying or not marrying...yes he has a word given to sumi so he has to keep it...what's wrong in it...did he not keep his word for Daju...he thinks shivani is maliksa's pothi so he cannot marry her I don't see anything wrong in it... only if he is love with some one then she will leave him or what...has he no ri8 to have his life the way he wants...??
so thats the difference in both cases

Also Raghu always has a choice not to listen to Shivani's whims and fancies ...isn't it .. in fact Shivani too wants Raghu to react and actually tell her I m no more your servant ... thats what Shivani too wants to hear but Raghu is quietly listening to all her orders as well and thats what is making her more stubborn ... If Shivani has her choices then Raghu has his choices too .. both r free actually not to listen to each other but both r failing to do so and thats where whole ego comes in the picture


I can understand her pain...but by hurting him or insulting him...is she gonna get anything from it...she is just reminding him of the fact that he is her naukar again and again...Raghu I think has no choice but to take her taunts...because he is used her arrogance as a naukar...and he claiming himself as her naukar...if she gives a back answer to her again we will find fault with him only...he is sttubborn to her only when it comes to his personal life...that is marrying her...but as naukar...he will take any amount of humiliation...if shivani is failing to understand that...it means she has never understood Raghu...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: jyoti06




@Bold : Thats the main problem 😆 ... Neither Shivani can give silent treatment to Raghu without showing her reactions or emotions nor Raghu can stop from going in front of Shivani or helping her out and thats where both r stuck up and we r pulling out hair out 😆😆



That's so true... 😆

Both are stuck to what they know best and both are wrong in how they respond to each other... They haven't really changed the basic method of what to do when one us upset the other goes to his old mould and when the other is upset she behaves in the way she is used to...

Unfortunately as viewers we can see where they are both should improve and it's almost like we need to give the danda to both to start thinking and behaving differently... 😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57


Agree that it will look humiliating to certain viewers but not to all... in fact my roommate ws telling ha! He asked for iit ! ... ...hmmm... about getting paid thing... we know that raghu told it to hurt shivani n make her hate him...he didn't mean it at all...infact he has always maintained that he is her naukar only... inly when karan came into pic n he had this brilliant ifea of getting her married off to him he started behaving like as if he wants payment... it is not a job for him... its 'seva' n unwavering loyalty...but we know his feeling run deeper n what he actually fears is his insecurities n the fact that babihi will have to lead a poor life...

I think sumi will react now...she is not going to sit idle after being called a naukarani...

Ofcourse shivani needs to change strategy... but she is impulsive n in ur face ...she doesn't pretend n don't know how to hide her feelings... she was crying her heart out when raghu came with the kangan... he knows perfectly well her state of mind as only a moment ago she was asking him to leave sumi n ready to bresk martiage with karan... yet he casually tells her look what karan sir send u!!...on top of that he tells her things whuch surely aren't his duty to do so...just as it isn't his call whom she is to marry...he tells her to marry karan...tthen tells her not to marry karan..then again tells her to marry karan...never thinking what she is going through...she had been driven to a corner... n shivani reacted... it was spontaneous ...impulsive... letting all her pain n anger out...indtant reaction...but i think she also wanted to show him the real naukar malkin relation...which was not the case with these two... even if raghu thinks he is a naukar , in his subconscious he is not ... now that she has set specific boundaries he may realise where all he had been crossing them all along...

Ofcourse raghu will remain stubborn ... but shivani doesn' t know snother way to goad him a final time... may b she eill find out another way once she sees karan...

I think these ' humiliations' will continue... she will b doing it to get a reaction from him desperately... but he won't relent...so the battle will continue... only solace is that the naukar will finally start to realise how much un-naukar like he was / is feeling... he will fight it...no doubt ... but that is needed... so i don't think the story will b moving in circles... rather i think we get a RP track...

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Posted: 11 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: poiu123

But I as a viewer understand Raghu better than Shivani then. I knew he wud say yes to wedding arrangements and he wud not reply back to her naukar taunts, She shud put some more thought in making plans if she really understands Raghu . His defences are solid. This will not work.



from Shivani's POV.. her entire life is at stake... her beloved has married someone else and she herself is going to marry another person shortly...every minute Raghu is slipping away from her life.. . under such mental torture, it would be impossible for anyone to remain cool and controlled.. .. if Shivani was a cool & controlled sort of person, she would have walked out the day Raghu married Sumi..😕... but Shivani is still lingering on in Raghu's house, hoping for some miracle.. ... yeah, she is taking out her anger on Raghu.. because he is the one who matters the most & is closest to her heart ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: jyoti06



She knows but yet for her this is like last hope with a assumption that they hv come a long way from that MU1 phase and mayb he does hv something for her ... thats what Shivani hopes and does it I guess ..

yes silent treatment anyday would hv been better but thats what I as a viewer feel ... I dunno if Shivani sees it in same way .. mayb she feels hurting him will make him react and then she can tell him that u feeling bad because u dont see me as malkin anymore ... 🤔


But this trait of her that the other person to react and give what she wants is also quite dangerous. .. what if her plan backfires and only sends raghu to be more stubborn to fulfil Shivani wishes...

At times I feel that Shivani expects others to do the work and her to give instructions... If raghu is in naukar mindset I feel Shivani too has her malkin mindset only because she was given everything on the platter as per her wish and demand, so hadn't had to work to fight for herself...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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from Shivani's POV.. her entire life is at stake... her beloved has married someone else and she herself is going to marry another person shortly...every minute Raghu is slipping away from her life.. . under such mental torture, it would be impossible for anyone to remain cool and controlled.. .. if Shivani was a cool & controlled sort of person, she would have walked out the day Raghu married Sumi..😕... but Shivani is still lingering on in Raghu's house, hoping for some miracle.. ... yeah, she is taking out her anger on Raghu.. because he is the one who matters the most & is closest to her heart ...

Thats even worse. She has no issues in wanting a married man. She does not value the sanctity of marriage a long as its not hers. Her marriage,her relationship is imp. But obv someone else's is insignifacant. Apart from raghus realisation of love,there is one more realisation which is as imp and that is fromshivani's side. That it... she isnot the center of the universe,what she wants is notmore imp than wat some one else wants, the world does not run according toher wishes , her relationships are not more imp than sum1else's relationships and lastly watshe thinks is not always right.

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