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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: heera1702

@dhanya ..i do agree coin has two sides n only one side cant b wrong ..but I think everyone has their own way to look at situations n react according to it .So I do accept everyones views n just cant decide n term it as insensible ..😕😲

As for shi waiting for an apology from R ,then dont u feel R too has complete rights to expect a apology from SHI as wht she told abt his mom n the way she behaved with her was in no way acceptable n not once she was shown to b sorry abt it n R was made to feel guilty for raising his hand on her by his own family n he did go to ask a apology from her bcz he knew wht he has done .He doesnt know the reason of her hating her ,then wht for he goes to ask for a apology from her ??? The clowning insult just took the cake away but she was forgiven by R even before she had to utter a sorry .👏



Whether R apologises or not ... he should be more pro-active and try to prove his innocence to S... don't know why R is allowing the Trio to get the upper hand... 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: a_uma



Whether R apologises or not ... he should be more pro-active and try to prove his innocence to S... don't know why R is allowing the Trio to get the upper hand... 😕



Yup uma ..his silent is killing now ..Hope now atleast he tries to outdo the evil trio n not take all the shit they throw at him silently .This is not needed at all ,dont know wht the makers r thinking by making him a silent spectator .😕😲 One moment he comes out all strong n gives them a ultimatum n some time later bows down to their insults thinking that he is doing it for babyji n dont want to hurt her .😕😲
Edited by heera1702 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: heera1702

@dhanya ..i do agree coin has two sides n only one side cant b wrong ..but I think everyone has their own way to look at situations n react according to it .So I do accept everyones views n just cant decide n term it as insensible ..😕😲

As for shi waiting for an apology from R ,then dont u feel R too has complete rights to expect a apology from SHI as wht she told abt his mom n the way she behaved with her was in no way acceptable n not once she was shown to b sorry abt it n R was made to feel guilty for raising his hand on her by his own family n he did go to ask a apology from her bcz he knew wht he has done .He doesnt know the reason of her hating her ,then wht for he goes to ask for a apology from her ??? The clowning insult just took the cake away but she was forgiven by R even before she had to utter a sorry .👏



If shivani is toxic then most humans r too... i am yet to find a human who doesn't shout when they r angry or doesn't cry when they r sad ir hurt...

If shivani is mental then the whole world is too... i am yet to find a human who won't believe their own eyes n circumstantial evidences ... even the courts in the world believe in circumstantial evudences... n not empty words like 'u r mistaken babiji...'' shivani has only acted upon circunstantial evidence n what she saw n heard with herown eyes n ears ...that' what humans do generally...

Sorry if hurt anybody but calling somone as toxic n mental for general human behavuour does sounded insensible to me ...


That's the whole point of this mu... shivani DOES'NT KNOW that she is wrong... according to her she us right... but even then we see her repent n question herself about her actions... that speaks volumes of her character...

Where as raghu KNOWS that he is right... he knows that shivani is being manipulated... so its easy for him to forgive n forget... or the need to wait for an apology... n that shows his good character ...shivani will only b wrong if she refusest apoligise even after knowing that raghu is innocent...

I have told many times that it was not rahhu's mother... it eas a greedy lying woman from shivani's pov... n raghu or latha hasn't made any attempts to make her believe otherwise ... n even then it was an emotional outburst ...she was hurt... but did she nurture that rudeness n again tried to insult any of raghu's family members? No... infact she was perfectly normal n tespectful towards latha ...even when raghu is insulting her brother n wife all the time shivanu cares fir bla n nishi... n that speaks about her goodness...

Whats the fun if all r looking in the same direction...ofcourse... everybody can have their own pov... but afyer thinking from the pov of all characters in the show... n not just one character... as divya n uma di pointed out shivani is right in her piv...n she is just being human... not mental or toxic...

N did i say that raghu needs to apoligise...no... i was just talking from shivani's pov... from her pov raghu should apologuse bec she believes that he is wrong ... she diesn't know that he is right... she is juat seeing a person who did wrong apoligusing n wanting to make things right ie roopesh ( she doesn't kniw that he is bad either) n raghu is accusing him n shouting at him for being greedy n bad ...when in shivani's pov raghu is greedy n bad himself...
Edited by dhakarn - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: --MI--

Well Raghu is responsible for it as if he had reminded her that she was the one who forced him to marry such a big bawal would not have happened but script writers don't want to remember that and in our show property is main lead


Vyas, I personally feel that its all the better that its nt brought up, otherwise the already bad mu wil become even worse. Cos wen v say she forced raghu, v shud remember that raghu was not tied up with a gun to his head. The choice to accept or not was in his hands. He cud hav said that he was supposd to get engaged on the same day. Do u think shivani wud hav held onto him then? I think not. But his loyalty (or so she thought bak then wen she learned abt sumi) kept him silent.
Now acc to shivani, he's not a loyal person. Then y wud he hav done that? The answer is opportunity. He saw his opportunity n grabbd it with both hands. We shud remember bak then all this 3 mnth condition or rana's death n all wer nt in picture. Shivani askd him to marry her. Shivani, the heiress to rana's entire wealth. Shivani, n I quote raghu "is sum1 wit who rana cudnt stay angry fr more than half an hr". So wer does that leav him? Break sumi's heart, wat does it mean if u stand to inherit such a huge wealth.
People, good or bad, do not hav to always plan things. Sometimes, opportunities knock on our doors, n v shud know how to use them. If thought that way, then everything raghu has done for shivani takes a new meaning.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: dhakarn



Well u r missing n imp point here dear... did shivani forgive her brothet just like that... no she forgave him after he apologised... after he repented... did raghu di that till now...? No... then why r all expecting her to forgive raghu ? Yestetday's epi clearly showed that he excepted atleast an apology ftpm him...if not reprntence... is it too much for het to axpect that from him after she had seen him doing things to her family...? Raghu wanted shivani to apilogise for talking in a rude manner to his mother... he is right! ... shivani wants raghu to apologise for his betrayal n continuing insults...she is wrong...wow ...! She is as human as a person can b ... she is nit mahan to see through deceit n forgive people who betray her just like that... she wants an assurance that they really mean the apology... which she got from her brother ...not fron raghu...

N also jass did one clever thing too... along with his apoligy he planted the image of traitor n betrayer in raghu ... so these two combined factors r now acting in shuvani's side...


Oh no no, I'm not saying that Shivani is not right in expecting an apology from Raghu for his perceived betrayal. Since she believes he was wrong, it is natural she would want him to apologise 😳 I guess it didn't come out clearly but my post had little to do with R-S dynamics. I mentioned Raghu's betrayal only in context of the absolute trust Shivani is showing in her family. Ok, I'll try to accept that Shivani is the kind of person who forgives and forgets wholeheartedly 😆 But Jaswant shed tears of repentance only after the original Will came to light, so doesn't she find it a leeetle fishy :/ I only wish the CVs didn't show her getting influenced so easily with a few words. She is a sweet kid, but I wish we could see her being sharp as well 😳 😆
And with that, I've exhausted my thoughts on Shivani 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56
I can understand shivani's anger...but cannot support her ways of expressing...it's very cheap...even under the cover of every person has their own way of expressing anger... this is a cheap way of expressing...
I don't understand one thing...why is every one expecting R to apologize...S...jazz did a mistake throwing S from house...so he apolized and S happily accepted...but when did R betray S to say sorry to her...or...did ppl started to believe like S that R is only after her property...


R is surely at fault...by not making any attempts to bring the real face of trio...he should slap the 4 some and bring them to their senses...and show their aukath...

y I find S cheap and R as decent...is in the way they expres their anger...and their behaviour...

when R was throwing away jazz and mahima from Daju's room...he 1st sent away the servants around and started to talk to them...decent enough


but S on other hand...dragged R all the way from the stairs...and the whole haveli and pushed him out of the house...and closed the doors on his face...when R went to say sorry to S for raising his hand on her...is that decent? both of them r angry at their respective situations...but the diff...which explains cheap and decency...

when Renuka aunty said to R that it's S fault to ask him act like a joker...R is decent enough saying that he knows who is behind that...but S never even has that much brain to think from R's side on any occassion...if she has not that much of belief too on R...then y is she feeling as betrayed??...and wht hapd to her so called humanity...when mahima asked to join them in insulting R to become a clown...I know the answer she did it...against her wish...because she had tears in her eyes...and she felt guilty too...after that...but wht hapnd at that moment...when M asking her to join them??? Y can't she refuse M then???...is she still hysterical at that moment with anger...on R???...she did refuse Mahima...and ran to save Bela's life...when rupesh asked her help...that too in the name of humanity...that made me laugh at her...if she really has humanity then with the same humanity she can refuse mahima saying she can't make R go through that insult...if we put ourselves in her shoes...can any of us behave so cheaply...in insulting a fellow human being...

S calls the security ppl...at the club to kick R from there...that's her gratitude for a person who gave her shelter and food...when her own bro kickied her off the house...if we call that is in anger she did...then I at least can;t stoop down supporting such kind of behavior...


any person can loose control in anger and become hysterical...but that will be for that moment only...it's just in that instant...I can understand S's anger on R's mom...when she just heard what baburam was talking abt her she bursted out on his mom...same is the case in mandir...when she 1st thought that R betrayed...she calls him to mandir...and shouts at him...I do think that's quiet sensible...she did a ri8 thing...by throwing her anger on R...

but when the moment passes away...any human being will start to think...but S never seems to be thinking...how a person acts after that moments talks a lot abt their character...S insulting R again and again...at every given chance...she insults at his house...in front of his family and infront of rupesh...that's her character...Y when she throwed a party to show off her friends...she warned R not to misbehave...she introduced him as her Hub...to save her so called family prestige...will the prestige be only for her...and not R's family ???...when she expects R to behave as a decent husband...then she should also behave like a decent wife when the matters come to his house...she can't shout on him...in front of his family members like that...


and I don't understand why shivani is bearing Raghu still...after all his betryal...when u truly believes a person with u r whole heart...and when u get cheated by him...the 1st reaction of any person is never wanting to see them in their life...so just leave him...leave the property...y should u be so greedy for the money...shivani knows very well...that Raghu will listen to every command of her...so ask him to get lost from haveli...tell him straight on his face...I don't want to be with u for 3 months can't stand u... I don;t want this property...what's stopping her...her greed for money???...no...u can't leave him?? u r not able to accept the fact that the one whom u trusted so much cheated u...then give him a chance...at least try to think from his side once...but she is not doing both the things...




Edited by Latha.I - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: DivzOnAir


Vyas, I personally feel that its all the better that its nt brought up, otherwise the already bad mu wil become even worse. Cos wen v say she forced raghu, v shud remember that raghu was not tied up with a gun to his head. The choice to accept or not was in his hands. He cud hav said that he was supposd to get engaged on the same day. Do u think shivani wud hav held onto him then? I think not. But his loyalty (or so she thought bak then wen she learned abt sumi) kept him silent.
Now acc to shivani, he's not a loyal person. Then y wud he hav done that? The answer is opportunity. He saw his opportunity n grabbd it with both hands. We shud remember bak then all this 3 mnth condition or rana's death n all wer nt in picture. Shivani askd him to marry her. Shivani, the heiress to rana's entire wealth. Shivani, n I quote raghu "is sum1 wit who rana cudnt stay angry fr more than half an hr". So wer does that leav him? Break sumi's heart, wat does it mean if u stand to inherit such a huge wealth.
People, good or bad, do not hav to always plan things. Sometimes, opportunities knock on our doors, n v shud know how to use them. If thought that way, then everything raghu has done for shivani takes a new meaning.

divya the whole mu was planted in shivani head on the basis that Raghu and abhi were in cahoots for the property now under the context this point of who married whom and who got the marriage done would be logical pt
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Posted: 11 years ago
#58
And as far as main topic goes shivani is not toxic or villainous but just a allegedly jilted lover who feels betrayed by person she loves but still does not know and you can shout only at ppl you love not some random strangers
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59
agree with. latha. Both are wrong but shivani's words were very cheap. the way she talks with Raghu is not acceptable. Even mahima and aunty use good language ( although their intentions are wrong). These yelling shouting bad words don't suit a royal person. They have a class ,they won't come below that.

The CVs are the real culprit here.

and i am big fan of hero. But other members in my family also says she is too much.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: manissha

agree with. latha. Both are wrong but shivani's words were very cheap. the way she talks with Raghu is not acceptable. Even mahima and aunty use good language ( although their intentions are wrong). These yelling shouting bad words don't suit a royal person. They have a class ,they won't come below that.

The CVs are the real culprit here.

and i am big fan of hero. But other members in my family also says she is too much.

@bold-agree here !! Only we few people come here n do discuss our pov about the show..but do u think the general audiences really try to find logics,reasons behind Shivani's weird behaviour?No...When me and my mom watch together she says whats new here??same repetitive scenes that heroine humilating hero everywhere!! this girl is very loud.. u better change the channel..!!

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