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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ shehjar and srija - Thanks for your replies. I'm glad to see that others also think Sandhya didn't seem like a drastically different character today.

@ farhana - I agree that Sandhya was not fair to Suraj today. But let me reiterate the point that I doubt Sandhya really grasps the ways of romance, again, due to her past. Besides this, however, I wanted to add that the alternative actions Sandhya could've taken might not be so plausible. For instance, she must've feared that confessing the 'Bhabho brainwash conversation' to Suraj could cause even more divisions between the mother and son (the very thing she is trying to avoid since day one). Doing nothing would just continue the status quo of family disunity. Under the pressure and circumstances, she made her decision and also the mistake of misreading not just Suraj, but also herself. She tried quite hard to convince Suraj and herself that she was doing the right thing, but a simple french kiss was enough to bring out her fakeness (which she wrongfully presumed was required to do the right thing). This, I think, was her only (unavoidable) mistake.

@ UMDU ji - Thank you for adding your thoughtful input, and making much more clear the point I was trying to make. One of the unique things of DABH is that the CVs don't try to force the story through characters, but rather create plausible situations and then show how each character, based on his/her history and character traits, would react in these situations.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: UMDU

I agree with you Samiji everybody in this serial is a victim of circumstances, be it Bhabo ,Suraj or Sandhya. Fate has played a cruel game with them. The only good thing about the whole affair was Suraj and Sandhya found each other and they are true soul mates IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD. Sandhya is not wrong from her point of view as she has lived all her life with only thing in mind and that is to join the IPS. Romance is not in her scheme of things. Bhabo is not wrong as from the outset she never wanted an educated Beendani. Suraj torn between these two women is the one to suffer the maximum. Neither has he got a wife who is good in house management nor is she interested in the physical side of relationship. Ultimately all are unhappy with the situation. My take on the solution would be that they should show the SR with the full happy approval of Sandhya and after that they can show her pursuing her dreams with the support of Suraj. She should not be shown coming to the bedroom as a sacrificial goat accepting to be slaughtered. The physical side of the marriage and her pursuit of dreams can go side by side. Extending the family can wait. This way both are shown to be happy and if they are happy we are in the seventh heaven of delight. Situations may not be to our liking but we can try to make the best of it. Life any way is full of compromises, why not in the serial than.


Firstly thanks Samir for the wonderful post and I agree from Sandhya's POV and I also would like to add that in reference to @ bold from UMDU Post
I would like to see that happen as well before Sandhya begins her IPS training. But for that to happen Sandhya and Sooraj need to talk about how they would take precaution on not starting a family - in other words they need to discuss like mature people about family planning as it is very important for a healthy relationship and their future.

In the epi today Sandhya stopped Sooraj only after she heard Bhabho's voice in her head asking her for a grandson... It shows that Sandhya really loves Sooraj and would whole heartedly give herself to him if her dream did not come in the way. So the solution is what UMDU recommended but only after they find the solution of prolonging the start of the family.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -SamiR-

Having fallen in love with Sandhya's character, I admit that what I say next could be a biased thought. But I assure you, I will try my best to be as objective as I can.😊

Now, I realize that you probably are not too happy with Sandhya after today's head-spinning episode, and maybe have even joined Chavi and Meena in placing all the blame on Sandhya. Don't get me wrong; I'm sure those who are blaming Sandhya probably have more valid reasons than those of Chavi and Meena, but my goal here is not to prove whether Sandhya is blameworthy or not. Rather, my point here is to argue that if one analyzes Sandhya's behaviour in today's episode, what she did was not very unexpected.
Yes, I was shocked initially (especially after Saturday's precap 😲), but now that I think about it, I feel that she was in line with her character. One of Sandhya's most obvious traits is her selflessness. As far as I can remember, she has never acted in a selfish manner. If she was selfish, she would've signed the divorce papers and went on to pursue her dream. Heck, if she was selfish, she wouldn't have even dreamed of becoming an IPS officer and dedicating her entire life to serve others!
Now, coming to the current circumstances, from Sandhya's POV, her dream of serving others was actually hurting her family. It had already caused a huge commotion (to say the least) in the morning, putting everyone against her beloved Suraj. The accusation that she is causing a rift between mother and son was emphatically expressed by bhabo, and the "hell kids". At dinner, she was blamed for damaging the mother-daughter relationship and a brother-sister relationship (although she didn't know it, she was even blamed for Meena's gluttony, which didn't even spare the hari mirch 🤔). And how can we forget Bhabo's emotional brainwash, where she literally added oil to Sandhya's burning dreams! She further blamed Sandhya, very sweetly ofcourse, for leading Suraj astray, and for neglecting her "duties". Now, when everyone around you starts blaming you, you are bound to start doubting your innocence. This is what Sandhya did. And her selflessness made sure that her dream, which is troubling others so much, would be at the bottom end of her list of priorities. All she had to do was to go through the SR and everyone's troubles will somehow disappear. (Unfortunately, she didn't take into account that Suraj is also known for his selflessness, and would not let Sandhya sacrifice her dreams, even for his sake; but that's another discussion). Alas, it is not that easy to forget a decade old dream after a single "tel ki maalish" 😉, hence Sandhya's hesitation and her being caught red-handed. So you see, she did what any naive selfless person would do, staying true to her character.
I admit what she did was not fair for Suraj, and that she might be too selfless for her own good; but that's what her character demands. Now, it would've been better if SurYa consummated their marriage soon after 'wo ai ni', so that they could've been in a stronger position to deal with current circumstances; but 'would've, should've, could've' can be a dangerous thing, especially for us audience members who have almost insignificant control over the story of the show.
On a related note, many of us are unhappy with Sandhya's set-up of the potential DBC (i.e. the filminess of it all 😕). Dedicating her teenage years to her studies, I doubt Sandhya had time to fantasize about her SR. As a result, I think all she had to go on was the few old bollywood films she might've watched. This is just my attempt to justify what she did (or what the CVs made her do, to be more precise).😛
Finally (thanks for bearing with me for this long!), as they say, 'be careful what you wish for'. After Saturday's precap, we were all wishing, praying, hoping, that the DBC won't happen. It seems we got our wish! Now that DBC is (wrongly) associated with Sandhya's dream, the chances of it happening are bleaker than ever! 🥺
OK! So after all that, I hope I justified Sandhya's actions, so as to lower the collective blood pressure of the forum members 😛. I am sure there are plenty of holes in my argument, which I urge you all to point out and discuss. I don't even mind being bashed, but just keep Sandhya out of it! 😡

brilliant post...I don't know about others but this post certainly helped to lower my BP and bitterness towards Sandya (and the Cvs) Tongue...so thanks to you 😉...btw, the conversation has not ended right, we will be seeing the continuation tonite, so let's see what sandya has to say...until then I will refrain from commenting about this topic because it is distracting me from doing my work 😆
I don't know how to judge Sandya now, whether what she did is right or wrong but one thing for sure she has hurt Suraj a lottt this time Ouch...hmmm let's see how they bounce back from this situation...
Deepika was right when she said sandya will do something that no one would think of...I've never thought of this awkward situation in DABH...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: farhana874

My question is...if sandy went thru all this brain-storming to decorate this n that way...why she didn't even spend a sec to think how sooraj will react seeing her in that avatar..that also on the same day when the pot-breaking,head-cracking aangan drama took place and also that lovely family dinner!
How cud she thot Sooraj wud believe whatever her excuse is..n he wud get ready for DBC!
She miserably failed to understand him...and sandy's complete concern is for bhabo only..sooraj always comes second to her..thats what hurting me...its 'diya aur baati hum'..not 'bhabo aur baati'
Am not bashing sandy either...am blaming cvs only for messing it up!..(typed in half sleep mode..dont even know i made sense or not...



I don't know why I laughed out loud after reading this...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Deebz - Thank you for your thank you 😛! I agree that the CVs were very clever in making us disapprove of that which we wanted the most. I personally am still enjoying the show. I think the thought provoking situations, and the unexpected twists and turns, make the show very interesting.

@ ami ji - omg! that's quite a scary prediction about Ankur 😲. It seems you're already in the holloween spirit (no pun intended), with your spooky thread about ghosts and haunted mansion, and now this scary prediction! Trick or Treat?

@ ayeshi - I agree that Suraj is in between a rock and a hard place at the moment, and Sandhya's actions didn't improve his position. But knowing Suraj, I'm sure he will be able to understand and forgive Sandhya once the truth, about the pressures placed by Bhabho, comes out. As for trauma, I think the events of the day were very traumatic for Sandhya. Pressure on a healing wound can cause even more pain then the would itself. As you mentioned, Sandhya had already gone through the traumatic experience of her dreams being shattered. But now, after receiving hope through Suraj, every sentence of Bhabho (during her pot-breaking scene, and brainwashing scene) must've felt like nails being driven into the coffin of her dreams. She cannot be expected to be in the right state of mind after such trauma. Being a naively selfless person doesn't help either. So I think, as a character, she reacted in an appropriate way. But I completely respect your feelings and thoughts, and picture toh abhi definitely bakhi hai mere doost! So let's wait and see how it all unfolds. 😊

@ SriB - Thank you for your input! You're right; it would be interesting to see how the CVs bring back DBC in the picture, and still make it seem natural and realistic. This will most likely take quite some time, but let's see what happens 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Juna04


Firstly thanks Samir for the wonderful post and I agree from Sandhya's POV and I also would like to add that in reference to @ bold from UMDU Post
I would like to see that happen as well before Sandhya begins her IPS training. But for that to happen Sandhya and Sooraj need to talk about how they would take precaution on not starting a family - in other words they need to discuss like mature people about family planning as it is very important for a healthy relationship and their future.

In the epi today Sandhya stopped Sooraj only after she heard Bhabho's voice in her head asking her for a grandson... It shows that Sandhya really loves Sooraj and would whole heartedly give herself to him if her dream did not come in the way. So the solution is what UMDU recommended but only after they find the solution of prolonging the start of the family.

That can be easily remedied Juna. They are both mature enough to understand things. To show SR after IPS would be doing gross injustice to Suraj and taking advantage of his goodness. Moreover I believe that there are some things which should be only kept between husband and wife. There is no need to drag Bhabo into this as that will become another battle to be fought. What happens in the bedroom is to be kept private. Anyway they are going to show Suraj secretly educating Sandhya atleast for some time. If that can be done secretly this is after all too personal.
Edited by UMDU - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ok finally saw the episode...and you know what...I don't know what to say except this...
Sandhya is a complete, confused, nincompoop.
I sympathize with her all her past circumstances, and the fact that she has bhabo for a saas...but please...she has Suraj for a husband.
She's so great about communicating social service ghayan to people around her...can't she just open her mouth and communicate her problems to her husband. He'll understand trust me...and if she doesn't know how to take things forward...they can decide together...as a married couple.
She is married you know...you don't have to be an IPS officer to realize that fact.
And in a good marriage...trust and understanding go hand in hand. I thought she would have understood Suraj better than that by now...I mean he's been with her through thick and thin. And I thought after the WTC track they had become real close.
But right now...Sandhya needs to decide who she's married to Bhabo or Suraj.
I'm just a tad disappointed in the approach she took tonight...If I were in Suraj's shoes I would have been highly offended in more ways than one.
And I don't like the message the CVs are giving...that you should keep from discussing your problems from your husband in order to please your saas or to keep peace in the house...sounds like a perfect formula for a husband and wife to grow apart.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: UMDU

My take on the solution would be that they should show the SR with the full happy approval of Sandhya and after that they can show her pursuing her dreams with the support of Suraj. She should not be shown coming to the bedroom as a sacrificial goat accepting to be slaughtered. The physical side of the marriage and her pursuit of dreams can go side by side. Extending the family can wait. This way both are shown to be happy and if they are happy we are in the seventh heaven of delight. Situations may not be to our liking but we can try to make the best of it. Life any way is full of compromises, why not in the serial than.

@ bold: Well said UMDU Ji
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Posted: 13 years ago
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well, I'm happy with Sandhya and yesterday's epi. I totally agree with each word you said. So nuthing much to add. She tried something she doesn't know, I mean to be someone she is not. That made Sooraj easy to catch her. Still I doubt whether she has learnt him as much as he learnt her. But I think I need to consider her age and thoughts. Its an age which makes you believe yourself wrong when others point their fingers at you. Also she doesn't want others to hurt him as he loves them. But for that she hurted herself and that hurted him, I should say. She might've thought she is the sole reason behind his miseries. But I know, she has to open up herself to him because he never failed to know her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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For instance, she must've feared that confessing the 'Bhabho brainwash conversation' to Suraj could cause even more divisions between the mother and son (the very thing she is trying to avoid since day one). Doing nothing would just continue the status quo of family disunity. Under the pressure and circumstances, she made her decision and also the mistake of misreading not just Suraj, but also herself.


Thanks Samir for this post. I was dumbstruck last night after seeing the reactions in the forum.

Completely agree with the above bold. She has even said to Suraj before that she does not like anyone blaming Suraj for her mistakes or deeds.

Having buried her dreams deep down somewhere in her mind, Suraj had to push her to express it. He assured her to help as it is a responsibility of him being given by his parents-in-laws. This new found hope made her still tense that everything should go along the right way without hurting anyone.

The days proceedings, Bhabho's brainwash or rather her clearly stating her decision and hinting Sandhya to not create disharmony in the family and then Chavvi insulting Suraj have all been pressurizing her.

Many of you feel she still does not understand Suraj but I feel she does understand him and trusts him more but to avoid any further mocking or blaming Suraj and any disagreement between Bhabho and Suraj, she took this drastic step. She deliberately failed in her attempt to make Suraj believe her.

Guess still the convo is remaining and she would not disclose Bhabho's wish but state she does not want to study further for family's sake hence he is going to make some secret plan.

Suraj may be hurt by this but will definitely understand her.

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