Society or Sensitivity?

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Hi Friends,
There has been such a lot of discussions over the Atul-Armaan angle that I was left thinking. We all know that this is just for fun ... it also brings good TRP and also that it raises numerous questionable issues to light.

Homosexuality has always been an issue that has been made to hide behind the covers of cultured, 'straight' society. But, it does exist, no matter how hard people try to hide this.
There has been a number of films in the recent times that have raised this particular topic, either as a matter of hilarity or as a serious thing. Recent movies like Honeymoon Travels tried to show that these people had to hide their choices and follow the norms constituted by the societal elders. In Life in a... Metro, a homosexual tries to use a girl to show the world that he was straight. There has also been a movie like Rules... Pyar Ka Superhit Formula where they actually try to bring together the despaired lovers.
Matters dealing with such sensitive topics have been emotionally linked with family members and concious decisions. But matters of the heart is too sensitive a topic to be made a slave to the organized community.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I found Armaan's comment interesting when he said in Bombay sometimes when people don't succeed in their pursuit of a girlfriend, they are willing to compromise and go after a guy. I thought that was kinda weird..b/c how can someone "compromise" unless they are bisexual??
I dunno...

Atul's comment was hilarious when he said.."tu poora aadmi hai toh main kya aadha-adhura sa hoon?" lolzz!

I think it's gonna take a while before homosexuality becomes accepted in any society and not a matter to laugh about. It's too new to be accepted without being cracked jokes on.


BTW, I love your Anjali-Atul signature banner :)

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Posted: 18 years ago
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kanak1309

Interesting topic!But as we know our society is yet to come to terms with issues like dowry,arranged/love marriages,divorces,then this issue is quite far fetched in its sensitivity.

But as you said 'matters of the heart is too sensitive a topic to be made a slave to the organized community.'-Beautiful line and very true!Everythings happens in all the societies of the world,just that in some its behind closed doors!

It can be taken up as a subject of humour to an extent,as long as it doesnt hurt the sentiments of people or mocks the issue!

Tho Atul's line was s'posed to be hilarious ,i thought it derogatory!
As long as its two of them acting goofy and trying to prove to each other they are straight or whatever ..its all in good fun.But soon as they start commenting/defining pura aadmi/aadha adhura...thats where they must draw the line.

Aarti had made a post on 'Our sense of Humour' which talked of sisters Lovely's feelings for Atul and how the whole comic angle to this is focussed on her built.
Your posts are similar on the grounds that they call on us as a society to learn to understand/tolerate the different societal issues and not just laugh at them in jest!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Why is that derogatory? Atul was not even thinking in terms of gay/straight guy... he plainly said, tum poore aadmi ho toh main kya aadha-adhura aadmi hoon?

Plus, I think in order for LGBT to be accepted, one must ACCEPT that they're different (and OKAY) instead of getting offended when "discriminated" or differentiated from the "norm"...it IS different..it IS going to be separated...and it IS separate! It's gonna take time to be assimilated back with the difference embraced.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Because they are then directly implying/commenting on what they think of 'gay' person.And also giving the message to the public.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: irvngpalmshec

I found Armaan's comment interesting when he said in Bombay sometimes when people don't succeed in their pursuit of a girlfriend, they are willing to compromise and go after a guy. I thought that was kinda weird..b/c how can someone "compromise" unless they are bisexual??
I dunno...
Not only Bombay, Sakshi. I have heard from my guy friends, their theory of why guys turn bisexual, or for that matter homosexual.
First of all, lemme tell you, being homosexual is genetically linked. I am not very sure how, but you will see that not many guys have the certain quality of have homo- traits.
About my friend's theory ... in boy schools or colleges and institutions having only boys/guys, there is a certain developmental disorder at the age of puberty, during which if the guy does not get a proper environment of a balance of girls and guys, they start venting their androgens out on the people they find around.
Movies like Rockford has shown this in a very subtle sense. I liked it a lot šŸ˜³šŸ‘

Atul's comment was hilarious when he said.."tu poora aadmi hai toh main kya aadha-adhura sa hoon?" lolzz!
Haha!!šŸ˜†šŸ˜† He's so innocent and cute that whatever simple thing he says touches my heart ... I love him soooo much 😳😳

I think it's gonna take a while before homosexuality becomes accepted in any society and not a matter to laugh about. It's too new to be accepted without being cracked jokes on.
I agree, Indian society still needs a lot of time to accept this fact. For now, let's enjoy the joke šŸ˜‰šŸ˜†


BTW, I love your Anjali-Atul signature banner :)
Thanks yaar, all thanks to Jenny though ... she's awesome with this šŸ‘šŸ˜³

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Posted: 18 years ago
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I agree with Notty!! Second your thoughts completely...
Kanak , fantastic post... and yeah I am glad this point has been raised!!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: nottygarfield

kanak1309 .... Hey Notty, please call me Kanak😳

Interesting topic!... Thank you dear 😊...But as we know our society is yet to come to terms with issues like dowry,arranged/love marriages,divorces,then this issue is quite far fetched in its sensitivity.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Our society does take a lot of time to understand such matters. Homosexuality is a more grave issue than divorces and dowry. About Love and Arranged marriage, well, I think Indian society has been able to come to terms with ... at least in a few places. 😳

But as you said 'matters of the heart is too sensitive a topic to be made a slave to the organized community.'-Beautiful line and very true!Everythings happens in all the societies of the world,just that in some its behind closed doors!
Speaking of which, I had read a particular article some weeks ago on an English woman who had got divorced from her husband, because he told her that he was gay, 15 years after their marriage. Just imagine, we Indians are not the only ones who take time to accept where exactly our sensitivities and priorities liešŸ˜•. Poor woman now has to take care of her 3 children all by herself as her husband feels that she is responsible for his pretending to be straight all this while.😔 I don't understand, why did he at all get married if he had a gay preference?šŸ˜•

It can be taken up as a subject of humour to an extent,as long as it doesnt hurt the sentiments of people or mocks the issue!
I agree ... gay angles do generate hilarious situations, but the sentiments of the people should also be kept in mind.

Tho Atul's line was s'posed to be hilarious ,i thought it derogatory!
As long as its two of them acting goofy and trying to prove to each other they are straight or whatever ..its all in good fun.But soon as they start commenting/defining pura aadmi/aadha adhura...thats where they must draw the line.
I'm sorry to disagree dear. I do not think that it was meant to hurt. It was innocent and absolutely goofy.

Aarti had made a post on 'Our sense of Humour' which talked of sisters Lovely's feelings for Atul and how the whole comic angle to this is focussed on her built.
Your posts are similar on the grounds that they call on us as a society to learn to understand/tolerate the different societal issues and not just laugh at them in jest!
Aarti di's post was very good. I have immense respect and admiration for her for bringing up a matter which people do not heed much; they just laugh it away.šŸ‘
My topic is, well, concerning a sensitive issue about society and it's sensibilities. And personally, I adore the Atul-Armaan scenes because their performance is the best at that time.šŸ‘. I am not talking about Atul and Armaan here. It's just a little issue that could come up watching them together, thats all dear😳

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: irvngpalmshec

Why is that derogatory? Atul was not even thinking in terms of gay/straight guy... he plainly said, tum poore aadmi ho toh main kya aadha-adhura aadmi hoon?

Plus, I think in order for LGBT to be accepted, one must ACCEPT that they're different (and OKAY) instead of getting offended when "discriminated" or differentiated from the "norm"...it IS different..it IS going to be separated...and it IS separate! It's gonna take time to be assimilated back with the difference embraced.


I agree Sakshi. Atul's comment wasnt derogatory at all.

We should all accept the fact that their preferences are different and every person have the right to their choices in life. It is a human right. We should not isolate them from society.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: sareeta

I agree with Notty!! Second your thoughts completely...
Kanak , fantastic post... and yeah I am glad this point has been raised!!


Thanks yaar Sareeta, Would have liked more from you yaar 😳

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