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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: meLuvsParul

agreeed big time...

kunal jai singh the guy is one of the most strongest,versatile,talented,brilliant tv actor on indian tv... omkara the charecter belongs to him... and omkara the charecter itselft is one of the mostt unique,rare,different,intenseee charecter on indian tv...

but nahhh,,,CVS r interested in swetlana drama...god knows wat is their problem...kya dushmani hai omkara/kunal and omkarians/kunalians se..aisa kya hogaya?kya kasooor hamara aur kunal ka??

abh kya boluuu,,,, i thought DBO will be omkara centric,,we will get omkara centric episodes... his transformations,his take on love,his feelings for his mother,parentes,,his equation with gauri,,his everything...blah blah blah...

but nahhh,,, CVS loves rehynaa/swetlana...

i cant BLV,,, still we r complaining about omkara's screen space as main lead...

for lords sake use kunal shrenu,,both of their talent,utilize their talent,potential...cum on yaaarrr...

pata nahii kabhi kabhi lagta hai DBO reyhna/swetlana k liyeee banayaaa CVS ne... :(



I can't even add anything to it cuz you said it all perfectly. APNE hi show ke ONLY lead ke liye ACHA track maang rahe hain. Who does that?! IB mein toh there were "multiple leads" so making these demands was acceptable. But DBO has a cast of FIVE PEOPLE! FIVE!!! In the entire show there are only FIVE people who matter. ONE of them is Omkara. The supposed LEAD of the show. Kisi angle se dekh ke lagta hai?

I'm not saying ke Svetlana ko hata do. AREY BETHI RAHE WO BHALE! But for the love of GOD! Give Omkara something substantial to do except flop detectivegiri and frowning all the time. IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S NO SCOPE FOR IT ALL!! Scope tha TABHI toh he got his own show!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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someone please forward this to the channel/CVs. I can't bear this anymore! 😭
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ugh it is. I'm left wondering what these guys are hoping to achieve by this useless rotation that always brings us back to nothing, no development whatsoever.
The only silver line these days is KT being back. At least that guy is good at being bad.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sakura24

Ugh it is. I'm left wondering what these guys are hoping to achieve by this useless rotation that always brings us back to nothing, no development whatsoever.

The only silver line these days is KT being back. At least that guy is good at being bad.



I associate the Baraeilly goodness with KT so I'm hoping his return is a sign of the good days of DBO returning as well. When the pace was good and tracks made sense and OUR HERO ACTUALLY GOT TO DO SUBSTANTIAL STUFF!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree that Omkara has been looking lost for the past 4 weeks or so. The first 4 weeks were good with a fast paced show. They were showing some different shades of Om as well. I even liked the initial interactions of SvetKara in DBO after his return from Bareilly when Rudra was with him too.

But suddenly they shifted the focus totally to Svetlana and her Raaz and her secret lab! LOL. The detective Giri track was so annoying. Nothing was working and it was irritating viewers. (I watch on Hotstar and people were daily complaining to end the Svet track). Looks like finally some traction with KT's return.


I really liked the flashback scenes with the instrumental Sathiya playing in the background when Gauri told Jhanvi about what happened in Bareilly. The scenes of Om fighting goons. How good and hero like he looked in those scenes? Totally in charge and kick ass! THAT is the man we want to see. Om was always introspective and intelligent. He always observed the smallest things and got to the bottom of things. Like how he observed Annika's bracelet on the bride during the "home coming" ceremony, and looking at the photos he took he realized who it was. Then he decided to let everyone know who was under that veil. I loved how he used his intelligence and his observation in the right way. Now it seems he is running in circles like a headless chicken.


SP wake up. Get the story back on track and give the Hero a chance to be a Hero. Make the story about HIM please! Vamps, villains are needed. But this is HIS story, not their story. I saw how this same thing happened on Gul's previous long running show. Soon the Hero was just crying and Vamps were running the show. I sincerely hope SP doesn't let Gul ruin this show like Zee let her ruin the other. No one can tolerate a show for long where the Hero is dumbed down and villains are made smarter. Or villains always win and the Leads loose. SP has a long running show which is all about festivals and wedding. That show should have taught them that positivity seems to get more punters in than negativity does. Even the highest TRP of the parent show was the week the sautan got busted. People wanted to see that. Even in QH, one of the weeks the TRP went very high when the Vamp was punished. People WANT to see that. So show them the Hero winning!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I agree that Omkara has been looking lost for the past 4 weeks or so. The first 4 weeks were good with a fast paced show. They were showing some different shades of Om as well. I even liked the initial interactions of SvetKara in DBO after his return from Bareilly when Rudra was with him too.

But suddenly they shifted the focus totally to Svetlana and her Raaz and her secret lab! LOL. The detective Giri track was so annoying. Nothing was working and it was irritating viewers. (I watch on Hotstar and people were daily complaining to end the Svet track). Looks like finally some traction with KT's return.


I really liked the flashback scenes with the instrumental Sathiya playing in the background when Gauri told Jhanvi about what happened in Bareilly. The scenes of Om fighting goons. How good and hero like he looked in those scenes? Totally in charge and kick ass! THAT is the man we want to see. Om was always introspective and intelligent. He always observed the smallest things and got to the bottom of things. Like how he observed Annika's bracelet on the bride during the "home coming" ceremony, and looking at the photos he took he realized who it was. Then he decided to let everyone know who was under that veil. I loved how he used his intelligence and his observation in the right way. Now it seems he is running in circles like a headless chicken.


SP wake up. Get the story back on track and give the Hero a chance to be a Hero. Make the story about HIM please! Vamps, villains are needed. But this is HIS story, not their story. I saw how this same thing happened on Gul's previous long running show. Soon the Hero was just crying and Vamps were running the show. I sincerely hope SP doesn't let Gul ruin this show like Zee let her ruin the other. No one can tolerate a show for long where the Hero is dumbed down and villains are made smarter. Or villains always win and the Leads loose. SP has a long running show which is all about festivals and wedding. That show should have taught them that positivity seems to get more punters in than negativity does. Even the highest TRP of the parent show was the week the sautan got busted. People wanted to see that. Even in QH, one of the weeks the TRP went very high when the Vamp was punished. People WANT to see that. So show them the Hero winning!



The first weeks of DBO were so promising for Omkara's character. His stint in IB ended at him shunning the light within him (how BRILLIANT was that scene?!) so it was only natural that DBO was dealing with his darkness and skepticism. The Loss of Faith became a huge point for Omkara and the entire Baraeilly track revolved around this aspect. When he stopped thinking with his heart and trusted only what his eyes were showing him. It provided a good contrast with Gauri who was all heart and faith. This Omkara was in control and had a very short temper. Unlike his IB self, this Omkara was selfish. There was SO much that could've been done to his character post his return to OM..but instead what did we get?!

Villains are necessary for any narrative. Good can't be recognized if there's no Evil to oppose it. We can understand that. But when ALL the good guys do is chase the bad guys but never get to any result..it just becomes boring to watch. When the good guys have no identity except them trying to find out RAAZ...who'd want to watch that?! It just baffles me that Omkara got his own show just to do some flop detectivegiri..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@TM:

Yes, I get what you mean. What is the point of getting the leads of the show to just run behind the vamp for literally weeks trying to figure out her Raaz, while she skates around (literally again) dodging them and creating a bigger maze for them. 1 week of that was good. Like the Punchgani stuff was good. But after that? It was irritating and torturous.


Yes the "trust only your eyes", "believe only in yourself and your abilities", "Have no faith" and "I only want results" (the way he handled Gauri's resistance without any feeling) Omkara was someone to watch, and someone new to get to know. The Om we knew for 7 months was different to this one. When he came back from Bareilly too, he had new resolve to tackle Svetlana. Those initial weeks of their interactions were good too. But then came around 3 weeks of total BS, and people were hating it. In this case the TRP directly spoke of the people's displeasure and the channel heard it.


What DBO needs are new writers who can write and better direction. (though that is not all bad). The cinematography is usually good. But writing needs to be picked up in a huge way. The same people who came up with a complex and layered character like Omkara, who was any day difficult to decode, should have done better justice to what his character can do. If they focus on him and his complexities, this show will do so well. Because the show is about the Leads. It is about the Hero, the heroine, and the people that matter to them. It is essential that there be more likable characters and positive people on a show besides leads. Entertaining characters. Bua Ma so far is very entertaining and they got the balance right with her. I heard she will turn negative too. (But there is more to her story I think).


Rudra and Saumya are needed on this show too, as the other interesting and entertaining story for viewers. People like to watch more than 1 couple. EK shows have successfully shown other pairings in their shows which have had a great response. Even in Gul's previous shows, there have been other pairings which were loved by the audiences. Like you said Villains are needed. But they are not needed to "run" the show. They are needed as a foil for the leads and other positive characters on the show. But when too much importance is given to villains, the show suffers. This happened to GK shows before. I thought she had learned her lesson when initial days of IB there was limited negativity. Then she brought in 3 times the negativity with Nafratbaaz. From that point on, the villains were getting most of the footage. I hope at least now, SP will realise that the Vampgiri does not work for DBO and take all steps to change that. Keep the villains but make them less important than the leads! PLEASE!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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According to me, neither IB nor DBO ever needed a villain or vamp. Oberois are themselves a very dysfunctional family in which each family member including all the lead characters are very much flawed and detached from each other, that they are enough to create drama and generate TRPs. There is actually no need of Tia, Svetlana, Kamini type characters. Instead of them, they could have focussed on Omkara, Rudra, even the senior oberois can get their own tracks. In this show, each and every Oberoi is an interesting character CVs can focus on each and every relationship of this show.

But instead of that, we are getting Svetlana's so called raaz who no one wants to see. Omkara is the most layered character in this show and Kunal is playing it perfectly. This character always deserved his own show coz there is so much to explore in it but he is only getting wasted here. Both Kunal and Lee deserved a better show from a better ph. Gul cant utilise their potential.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Luna46:
I agree. Ideally, a show like IB or DBO should not need OTT villains. All the characters are generally with gray shades and interesting. One of the things GK shows does is set up quite interesting characters. Besides the leads there are other people who are interesting and layered too.

EK and her camp actually focus on other characters on their shows much better than GK and her camp does. That is why despite getting the casting right, they end up having good and talented actors standing around with not much to do. Tej and Jhanvi. What a great duo they were from day 1? Their relationship could be one whole show. Pinky and Shakti, even they had their issues. Dadi. There is so much about her we dont know and they never show. SO many people besides the OBros and their partners that could have been explored as well.


But here they were not even focusing on two of the Obros and their partners, so how would they focus on parents and grandparents? Everyone in these shows is interesting. So without many vamps, there was enough to show if they developed the story properly. One of the biggest mistakes was introducing the Rana's as Mallika's in-laws. (Because she was a cameo). They had mentioned the Rana's in many episodes. Even Om once told Ridhimma they were coming to one of his openings. They were supposed to be their business rivals. I think what would have been very interesting was if SVR (Siddharth) had got involved with Priyanka, and then the old connection of Vikram Rana with Jhanvi had come out in front of the rest of the family.


They missed SO many opportunities to build great tracks and interesting stories with what they already had. Instead, they did so many cringeworthy tracks with too many vamps and villains and stuff like memory loss, and vamp with dark secret and two faces etc. The whole NB thing they did with the slogans and the hand gestures?I used to laugh at the inaneness. But you are right. This show characters are enough to be hero's and villains of their own stories. There was no need to import new villains daily. Let's say they really WANT some villains? Fine. But make them be a part of the narrative in a meaningful way. Not in these lame ways they have used the villains to date and make us hate them even being on screen.


Out of EK's villains, I liked Ashok Khanna, and Raj Sabrawal (who was the hero's father but an anti hero himself). Ashok was entertaining to watch and attractive too. Here it's mostly vamp nonsense, like QH. That is why people got so fed up in the end.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Im surprised and at the same time not surprised at whats going on in DBO. With IB, it started off so well with minimal vamp scenes, and then started going downhill with the overdose of the NafaratBaaz trio. They somewhat cleaned up their mistakes by wrapping up NB track but then the next day introduced the next villain. Gul really loves her villains. You guys are right, she can explore so much with the characters but instead loves showing evil. She destroyed QH so badly, I'm surprised she's doing the same with DBO. Swet's track in DBO is just some next level madness. I've been fastforwarding all her scenes for the past month and a half. I dont get how anyone can watch her scenes and not want to slap themselves silly for wasting time watching such nonsense. The way Svet talks to the camera in her scenes makes me LOL so much "keep watching to see what happens next" ...ughh no thanks 😆 😆


I hope they keep Rahul Dev though for a while. If they want villains in their story, then keep seasoned actors like Rahul who can do justice to their role. I can watch KT scenes any day as long as writers dont start writing voodoo crap for him too.

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