About Ramayan and Shiv Dhanus

In one of the last week's episode, there was a mention of shiv dhanus and its bhoomika in Ramayan i wanted to clarify on that.

Shiv Dhanus which is also known as pinaka was given to King Janaka by Lord Parusuram for safe keeping which was given by Lord Shiva to Parasuram because lord parasuram was a great disciple of lord shiva.

Another account is the same Bow by the name pinaka was given by Parasurama to Karna as Karna was his oustanding disciple.

there also account of shiv dhanus being broken by Lord Krishna when he visits Mathura on invitation of kamsa.

so as we can see whenever Vishnu in his avatars breaks a Bow it is Shiv Dhanus. i strongly suspect this to be later addition some fanatics.

In this context Lord Shiva with teary eyes explaining how his dhanus will be broken by Lord Ram to marry Sita has completely disgusted me. Why would Mahadev create a Bow which is only meant to be broken and is so happy that it will be broken.

My post is to educate all the viewers about discrepancies in the serial, it would prudent for the makers to just stick to all shaiva puranas rather than involve other stories.

Regards
Krishna

But do u know the truth..about the dhanus??

We all know that this was one more fictional track by the cvs.They wanted to show that Shiv was indirectly responsible for Ram-Sita milan.If he would not have made the dhanush then Ram and Sita would have never married.This was the message given by the cvs.

Originally posted by: .Reshama.

But do u know the truth..about the dhanus??

Truth is the subject of debate and what we believe but since you asked i will try to analyze it for ypu

Shiva is not part of Ramayan in an active way, shiva dhanus has no significance in ramayan except as a medium of union for sita and rama

so why would Mahadev put his precious dhanus which was specially made by vishwakarma by his order on the line, i mean there should be some logic behind it.

instead of shiv dhanus any dhanus with all the required attributes would have been perfectly alright.
similarly there was no need to break it.

as you observe carefully when parushurama offers another dhanus a vishnu dhanus it is not broken so the underlying message is Shiv dhanus cannot withstand the strength of Rama. this is nothing but glorification of vishnu.

Most of our puranas are logical and have underlying messages but this episode is illogical and does'nt make any sense. also Sita being able to lift shiv dhanus is beyond logic for me.

hence it can be concluded as a latter addition with some ulterior motives.

regards
krishna

This serial only does glorification of Shiv and no one else.If u watch the viahnu-lakshmi conversation,Vishnu was giving credit to Mahadev and his dhanush for their union as ram and sita
This serial has never shown Vishnu in bad light but it had never glorified him too at the cost of Mahadev.In fact Vishnu himself said in one of the episodes this week that Mahadev is greater than him



And why can't Sita pick up the dhanush?she was not an ordinary human being,she was a Goddess herself.

I agree w/ Krishna - why does Vishnu have to be glorified @ the expense of Mahadev all the time - whether it's the Veerbhadra track, the solid lingam episode, the Shiv dhanush,...

When was Vishnu glorified at the cost of Mahadev? I have always felt Mahadev has always been shown greater than all the devtas.Vishnu has always been shown in this serial as a devta who will talk big big stuff but when it comes to action,he will make Mahadev do everything.(no offence to Vishnu nor Mahadev).All the devtas would go to Vishnu during the sankat time but he will always send the devtas to Mahadev saying that only Mahadev will solve your problem,i can't do anything.Isn't it the proof that Mahadev is shown greater than Vishnu in this serial.This has happened many times in this serial where Vishnu will tell Mahadev to solve all the problems and he himself won't do anything.

Originally posted by: sanju01

When was Vishnu glorified at the cost of Mahadev? I have always felt Mahadev has always been shown greater than all the devtas.

I just gave 3 examples

• Veerbhadra - in the original story, he trounced Vishnu and knocked him unconscious, and then proceeded to behead Daksha. In this serial, Vishnu bound him and Bhadrakali released him, and Vishnu meekly allowed him to proceed. Showing Vishnu not being through a debacle like this is definitely glorifying him
• The lingam episode - Parvati, while seeking Mahadev as her husband, builds a lingam, which keeps getting blown, and Vishnu builds one for her as a 'brother', ostensibly foiling Shiva's attempt to destroy it. Thereby showing Shiva as being unable to destroy a Vishnu creation. W🤬F?
• The Shiva dhanush - analyzed in this thread. Why would a bow of Mahadev exist solely for the purpose of getting broken by a Vishnu avatar so that he gets to marry Lakshmi's equivalent in a swayamvar on Bhulok?

Vishnu has always been shown in this serial as a devta who will talk big big stuff but when it comes to action,he will make Mahadev do everything.(no offence to Vishnu nor Mahadev).All the devtas would go to Vishnu during the sankat time but he will always send the devtas to Mahadev saying that only Mahadev will solve your problem,i can't do anything.Isn't it the proof that Mahadev is shown greater than Vishnu in this serial.This has happened many times in this serial where Vishnu will tell Mahadev to solve all the problems and he himself won't do anything.

As far as any Tarakasura related event goes, it would be correct, only b'cos Kartikeya was destined to slay him. Otherwise, there has hardly been any incident that actually involved Vishnu. Samudra Manthan has yet to happen, so all his events are yet to arrive.

Since this serial is about Mahadev, the first ones who should be glorified are him and his family. In other words, aside from Mahadev, it should be Parvati, Durga, Mahakali, Kartikeya, even Nandi. But when they belittle these characters, but glorify Narayan instead, it's clearly inappropriate for a Shiva centric serial.

I wouldn't be saying any of this if we were discussing Ramayan, Krishna, Mahabharata or any Vishnu centric stories. Just as Mahadev had very peripheral roles in all of them (except in the case of Krishna vs Banasura), Vishnu had a far lesser role in these Shiva Purana stories than what's being projected.

In the lingam episode,Mahadev was shown superior to Brahma and Vishnu as it seemed like he was testing both of them.

I was discussing a different lingam episode - see above

In this week's episode,Vishnu told Lakshmi that Mahadev is greater than him because he never took any avatar to protect the world from evil.

Uh, how does that make him either greater or lesser one way or another? As long as one protects the world from evil, one is doing fine. That comment made no sense whatsoever

In this serial,they have always shown Mahadev is the greatest amongst the Tridevs.

I have never felt that the makers are glorifying other Gods at the expense of Mahadev.In fact they are showing his wife Parvati and son Kartikeya in poor light to glorify him so how can they glorify other Gods?

Yeah, they are showing Parvati, Kartikeya, Nandi all in a poor light, but they're not doing that w/ Narayan, even when the original scriptures have it that way. If they can undermine Kartikeya's achievement by showing Mahadev rescuing him at the last moment, why can't they undermine Narayan by showing him get knocked unconscious by Veerbhadra, as actually happened? If they want to show Mahadev as supreme, how do they show it by showing Vishnu as being more powerful than Parvati (as in the episode of whose lingum survived the gale)?

I agree that they haven't glorified any other gods, except Narayan. In fact, after Mahadev himself, Narayan is the only one who has gotten a favorable treatment.

Originally posted by: sanju01

This serial only does glorification of Shiv and no one else.

And why can't Sita pick up the dhanush?she was not an ordinary human being,she was a Goddess herself.

The bow that Parashurama gave Karna - I doubt that he gave Karna any bows - I've not read about it anywhere, and haven't found any reference to it in the Mahabharata. Parashurama was someone who formed his opinions about others purely by caste. While he loathed kshatriyas, it's not like he had any fondness for Vaishas or Shudras either - indeed, he cursed Karna after the latter confessed that he was a shudra. Also, he gave Drona the knowledge of all his weapons and their usage, even though he oughtta (as Vishnu) have known that they'd be misused. So it's hard to digest that he'd have preferred Karna to either Bheeshma or Drona when it came to gifting this bow. (Don't go by BRC here)

As far as i remember according to the original vyasa bharatha the bow of Karna is called pinakin or vijaya gifted to him by Parasurama this was done before it was revealed that karna was kshatriya

it was the bow of Lord Shiva Gifted to parashurama by his Guru Lord Shiva.