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Posted: 13 years ago
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I stand corrected on Himavat and Mena. They too were not easily accepting of Shiva as a son-in-law!

I just checked a Shiva mythology sourcebook and found many stories of Himavat and Mena having to be convinced to let Parvati marry Shiva. Himavat proves to be easier to convince than Mena. Main source seems to be Shiva purana.

Here's one story as a composite from 2 sources. Will post some others when I get time.

This is a beautiful story in which Shiva takes a beautiful form and dances in front of Mena. Hearing his beautiful song, Parvati faints and sees his true form (smeared with ashes etc) and chooses him as her husband. the vision then passes.

Mena on the other hand, sees only the graceful dancer and offers him a reward which Shiva (as a dancer/beggar) does not accept. He asks for Parvati as his alms. Mena gets angry and abuses him and tries to throw him out. Himavat (who had gone to bathe in the ganga returns) and also tries to throw him out, but no one can touch the beggar. Shiva then proceeds to take various forms: Vishnu, the sun, Shiva-Parvati, and finally the formless tejas. He finally returns to his form as a beggar and asks Himavat again for Parvati as his alms. H refuses and the beggar vanishes.
H then realizes that this was none other than Shiva and great bhakti s born in H& M (😆).

Sources:
Shiva Purana 2.3.30.25-54
Brahmavaivarta Purana: 4.40.71-111.



P.S. Sorry for the rough-shod language. Was typing in a hurry.
Should I post this story in some other thread also?



Edited by narangi_77 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22
Thanks for the WU!
I'm really tired of cv's "creativity"
do you remember any authentic episode recently?
I'm horrified wating for Parvati's "penace"
We could start betting on how long it would last... Half an epi?
anti-shiv mena and himvan irritate me the most
and Daksh, with his arrogance and Many purti really played their parenthood feelings much more better!!!!
I hope Sonarika would act good. If no - the whole show would completely decline
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnx12

Parvati dancing with Damaru & Trishul is tough to believe, showing her doing Shivji's puja would have served the purpose. Seeing her among sadhu's any mother can get worried.

Looks like Mena will remaing like this till end, we will have to bear with her for a long time. We need to be compensated for that.
It was good to see Daksh & Prasuti after a long time may be for the last time.
Eagerly waiying for Parvati to grow up soon.😊


I thought this was the show's creative license..but as I said, I stand corrected! It seems that there is plenty of material in puranic and other sources to support Mena's unhappiness with Parvati;s choice...

Will be posting as and when I find the time...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks Minaxi for the lovely update.😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Just got to watch the episode now - missed it @ 8pm.

The thing that struck me watching it was Daksha - how conspicuous he was w/ the goat head. One thing that struck me about that is that despite having a goat head, he still had his belly. Just wondering - did Surendra Pal have to play him just b'cos he had played him earlier? I mean, w/ a goat head, he should have become much leaner, and they could have used another leaner actor, probably w/ the director himself dubbing his lines?

The other thing that struck me - when Parvati went w/ her plate to take food to Daksha, it seemed quite strange, given that wouldn't Daksha now be eating what goats eat - leaves off the trees, grass, and maybe an end of Parvati's garment? Maybe it was b'cos Daksha was remorseful that he didn't seize that opportunity. 😳

Also, Himavan meeting Daksha & Prashuti seemed a tad redundant, since they were preaching to the choir. Instead, he should have taken Mena out there to talk to Daksha, so that he could have cautioned her against being like him. Speaking of Mena's nightmare, it's good that she got up b4 Parvati could touch the sadhu, since it obviously wasn't Shiva.

The final scene of an ash smeared Parvati dancing w/ those beautiful dancing shoes - actually, while Mahadev occasionally smears himself w/ ash, I don't recall ever reading about Parvati doing it. Anybody recall whether it's true about Mahakali at least? But here, Parvati did look quite cute smeared w/ ash, and dancing w/ that toy trishul. Only thing - if she has the original drum of Shiva's trishul, couldn't she have had Shiva's original trishul to go along w/ it?

So Sonarika debuts as Parvati tomorrow? Or were they showing the promo, rather than the precap? I recall that Parvati and her friends used to serve Shiva routinely, and it was only one day when Kama came and spoiled everything that Shiva left them. It's not like the first time Parvati came, Kama happened to be there as well. And they need to show Indra sending him - Kama wasn't a loose cannon who did that on his own volution.

Exit question: any bets on whether Daksha & Prashuthi will attend Parvati's wedding?
Edited by .Vrish. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.


Exit question: any bets on whether Daksha & Prashuthi will attend Parvati's wedding?


Nahiiin!!! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

that would be WAY too filmy, even for the CV's of this show! 😆 But who knows?!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i jst saw da episode.one thing i noticed is himavan and maina kept on saying dat sati went against her parents wishes and married shiv but dat was not at all true. 😲
Yes,sati's parents were against her marriage but later dey showed dat prasuti was da first one 2 agree 2 shiv-sati marriage after she saw shiv in da forum of jata telling parvati dat he can't marry her until her parents give da permission.dat's when prasuti's misunderstandings abt shiv were cleared and she started wishing dat sati marries shiv.
On da swayamvar,sati said dat da garland shd fall on da guy whom she luved truly.when da garland feell on shiv's statue and shiv came dere,shiv again told sati dat until her parents give her da permission,he can't marry her.prasuti gave her da permission but daksh didn't.he created a big scene but when vishnu and brahma intervened and requested him 2 get shiv and sati married,he agreed even though reluctantly.he also gave sati aashirvaad den how can cvs show dat sati went against her parents wishes.
Sati got married taking both her parents permission.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: narangi_77

I stand corrected on Himavat and Mena. They too were not easily accepting of Shiva as a son-in-law!


I just checked a Shiva mythology sourcebook and found many stories of Himavat and Mena having to be convinced to let Parvati marry Shiva. Himavat proves to be easier to convince than Mena. Main source seems to be Shiva purana.

Here's one story as a composite from 2 sources. Will post some others when I get time.

This is a beautiful story in which Shiva takes a beautiful form and dances in front of Mena. Hearing his beautiful song, Parvati faints and sees his true form (smeared with ashes etc) and chooses him as her husband. the vision then passes.

Mena on the other hand, sees only the graceful dancer and offers him a reward which Shiva (as a dancer/beggar) does not accept. He asks for Parvati as his alms. Mena gets angry and abuses him and tries to throw him out. Himavat (who had gone to bathe in the ganga returns) and also tries to throw him out, but no one can touch the beggar. Shiva then proceeds to take various forms: Vishnu, the sun, Shiva-Parvati, and finally the formless tejas. He finally returns to his form as a beggar and asks Himavat again for Parvati as his alms. H refuses and the beggar vanishes.
H then realizes that this was none other than Shiva and great bhakti s born in H& M (😆).

Sources:
Shiva Purana 2.3.30.25-54
Brahmavaivarta Purana: 4.40.71-111.



P.S. Sorry for the rough-shod language. Was typing in a hurry.
Should I post this story in some other thread also?




well, you typed the gist, we got it. maybe when you have time, you can write it in details and post it in doubts and discussion thread.

one quetsion: how can you quickly refer to the puranas?
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Posted: 13 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Just got to watch the episode now - missed it @ 8pm.

The thing that struck me watching it was Daksha - how conspicuous he was w/ the goat head. One thing that struck me about that is that despite having a goat head, he still had his belly. Just wondering - did Surendra Pal have to play him just b'cos he had played him earlier? I mean, w/ a goat head, he should have become much leaner, and they could have used another leaner actor, probably w/ the director himself dubbing his lines?

The other thing that struck me - when Parvati went w/ her plate to take food to Daksha, it seemed quite strange, given that wouldn't Daksha now be eating what goats eat - leaves off the trees, grass, and maybe an end of Parvati's garment? Maybe it was b'cos Daksha was remorseful that he didn't seize that opportunity. 😳

for Both of the points above, he just has a goat's head coz veerbhadra could not find a human head, he does not have a goat's constitution or intestines.. and also it seems the human brain is intact, coz he is speaking and everything. So no, he will eat human food, maybe only veggie.

Also, Himavan meeting Daksha & Prashuti seemed a tad redundant, since they were preaching to the choir. Instead, he should have taken Mena out there to talk to Daksha, so that he could have cautioned her against being like him. Speaking of Mena's nightmare, it's good that she got up b4 Parvati could touch the sadhu, since it obviously wasn't Shiva.

Himavan meeting daksh and prasuti itself is a big IF AT ALL. Everything else just follows the same logic bihin logic.

The final scene of an ash smeared Parvati dancing w/ those beautiful dancing shoes - actually, while Mahadev occasionally smears himself w/ ash, I don't recall ever reading about Parvati doing it. Anybody recall whether it's true about Mahakali at least? But here, Parvati did look quite cute smeared w/ ash, and dancing w/ that toy trishul. Only thing - if she has the original drum of Shiva's trishul, couldn't she have had Shiva's original trishul to go along w/ it?

mahakali smears herself with blood, not with ash. It typically is Shiv and Mahakal's department.
Parvati dancing in dancing shoes is another creative mismatch. If parvati is so deep in bhakti that she dances with damru and trishul and smears herself with bhasma, she would be without her tip top dancing shoes or for that matter her hair , her ghunghat , flowers all were all properly in place. the scene was not given much thought. It was just a filler imo.




So Sonarika debuts as Parvati tomorrow? Or were they showing the promo, rather than the precap? I recall that Sati and her friends used to serve Shiva routinely, and it was only one day when Kama came and spoiled everything that Shiva left them. It's not like the first time Parvati came, Kama happened to be there as well. And they need to show Indra sending him - Kama wasn't a loose cannon who did that on his own volution.

@bold red: u mean parvati right?😆😆 I think she went for shivpuja only once and that too narad insisted coz the master plan was cooking in background. Whatever, it was, it definitely was not this, heroine meets hero in reincarnation movie, type.


Edited by tannipartner - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey Tanni

I think I mentioned I took a course in comparative mythology. So we were given a HUMUNGUS sourcebook with translations (including the original sources and citations).

I give the citations whenever I share anything partly because I am a geek like that and partly so that people can refer to the originals themselves if they are so inclined.

I think it's very important to know what the source is. I, for one, do not trust the internet and prefer to refer to the works of reputed scholars. 😃

I also own the Puranic encyclopedia (ed. Vettam Mani) which is a handy resource for those interested!

It's much cheaper of course in India!
Mira 😊


Edited by narangi_77 - 13 years ago

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