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akhl

@akhl

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: bharat9
So Kshirsagar and Sagar both equals one? So it was Kshirsagar that was churned. Thank you.

Yes, Kshirsagar was churned. Kshirsagar and Sagar as in Sagar manthan mean the same. But Kshirsagar and Sagar as in King Sagar are different.

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Sattvik

@sattvik

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Posted: 13 years ago

#62

Notice how Shiv spelt backwards is Vish(nu) and Vish(nu) spelt backwards is Shiv... as in if you take the Hindi spelling... as "Sh" is one akshar/letter.

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Vrish

@Vr15h

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 13 years ago

#63

Quite a few things here, so let me address it all in 1 post. Akhl, hope you get your response on the conflict management advice.

Rimi

From what I understand, Sagar is the ocean that the Ganga empties into. As Akhl mentioned, after Bhagiratha got Ganga down to earth and she washed away the remains of Sagar's 60k sons, she ultimately washed it all into the ocean, which from that day onwards, came to be known as Sagar.

The samudra manthan that Vishnu was involved in organizing was more likely or not in the heavens, rather than on Bhulok. Ksheersagar is the ocean in Vaikuntha where Sesha rests, and on him, Vishnu & Lakshmi. The very locations of these are different.

I'm not convinced that Sati was still around during the Treta Yuga. I think the Samudra manthan did occur during the Satya Yuga, and I doubt that it happened during the reign of Bali. Samudra manthan coincides w/ Kurma avatar, which was followed later by Varaha, Narasimha & Vamana avatars. IIRC, Hiranyakashipu's death was when the Satya Yuga ended and the Treta Yuga began. But I'm not aware of what was going on in Kailash @ the time.

As for Rama's yagnas, they were done in Naimisharanya, which is in Sitapur district in UP. Sati's death happened in Daksha's abode which was not on Bhulok, even if Mahadev himself was on Kailash. One tradition has it that Sati's remains fell in different locations in India, and are pilgrim sites for some of the followers - don't remember the exact details.

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bharat9

@bharat9

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Samudra manthan coincides w/ Kurma avatar, which was followed later by Varaha, Narasimha & Vamana avatars. IIRC, Hiranyakashipu's death was when the Satya Yuga ended and the Treta Yuga began. But I'm not aware of what was going on in Kailash @ the time.

The above as you mentioned does make sense! Never thought in that way! Thanks

Originally posted by: .Vrish.
Sati's death happened in Daksha's abode which was not on Bhulok, even if Mahadev himself was on Kailash. One tradition has it that Sati's remains fell in different locations in India, and are pilgrim sites for some of the followers - don't remember the exact details.

The pilgrim sites where various parts of Sati's body fell are known as Shakti Peethas, 52 in total or so.

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bharat9

@bharat9

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Posted: 13 years ago

#65

shakti peeths

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakti_Peethas

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Sattvik

@sattvik

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#66

Some say there is 108 Shakti Peeths...

Sati's story happened way near the beginning of creation time, not like Shri Ram's time! Most of all the stories happened before Shri Ram's time!

This Ksheersagar and Sagar thing is confusing. Sagar means ocean doesn't it?

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bharat9

@bharat9

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#67

Some say that when Parvati or Sati came to test Shri Ram disguised as Sita ji since then Lord Shiva could never fully accept Her as His wife, hence one of the reason for Sati/Parvati to incarnate. Is this right?

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bharat9

@bharat9

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#68

Originally posted by: sattvik
Some say there is 108 Shakti Peeths..

Not sure. Various sources say different number. Maybe someone else can answer this question.

Found this info though:

'The primary sacred places of the goddess are the Shakti Pithas and they are variously described in different texts as being 18, 51, 52 or 108 in number, each of these sites being associated with a particular part of Shakti's body.'

Source: http://www.sacredsites.com/asia/india/srisailam_shakti_pitha.html

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-SilverFlames-

@-SilverFlames-

Rocker

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Posted: 13 years ago

#69

I have been following this show and quite confused, possibly because I used to watch Ma Shakti many years ago and it was similar to this but showed things slightly differently so some questions cropped up, one of which is:

1. Sati was the name Shivji gave Daksh's daughter Gauri after they got married? Is that correct or was Daksh's daughter called Sati?

2. Maa Parvati is the reincarnation of Maa Gauri/Sati so who was named Uma? Maa Parvati or Maa Gauri?

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Vrish

@Vr15h

Stunner

+ 6

Posted: 13 years ago

#70

Rimi & Sattvik

Thanks for the info on the Shakti peeths. But if Sati immolated herself, this incident may not have exactly happened. Also, Shiva sent Virbhadra & Bhadrakali/Mahakali to punish Daksha, and didn't go himself, whereas the Shakti peeths origins suggest that he took her body and danced the tandava dance, which resulted in her remains being scattered on those 54 or 108 locations. Not possible if she reduced herself to ashes, or smoke.

Brings up another point - in the ACK Sati & Shiva, they showed that after reproaching Daksha, she stood where she was, invoked a mantra and reduced herself to smoke, and the Ganas were furious. Whereas in most serials, they show her stepping into the agnikund and cremating herself there.

I wonder what the original texts say? B'cos after Daksha was refitted w/ a goat's head, Shiva gave him permission to complete his yagna. But that would not have been possible if the Agnikund had Sati in it, as the serials show. However, if she cremated herself separately, then that kund could have resumed operation once the yagna was back up & running.

Sattvik

Sagar does mean ocean - in fact, the ocean got its name from Maharaj Sagar of Ayodhya - Rama's ancestor. It's where the Ganga empties into. Since all oceans in the world are contiguous, it's valid to put it all under one umbrella. Difference b/w Sagar & Ksheersagar is simple - Sagar is on Bhulok (earth) while Ksheersagar is in Vaikuntha dham.

Rimi

I've never heard the story of Sati going to test Shri Rama. That's a new one on me.

Sanjana

Sati was the name given by I think Brahma to Daksha's daughter - she didn't get that name after marriage.
Uma was Parvati, not Sati. I don't know about whether Gauri was Sati, or Parvati.

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