Kabir admitting using movies as tool to pass political messages

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On Kabir Khan’s Admission That His ‘Politics’ Inspired Song Where Devout Hanuman Bhakt Wants To Eat Meat Even At The Cost Of His Faith

Filmmaker Kabir Khan has made a revelation regarding a song in his 2015 film Bajrangi Bhaijaan.

In a recent to a website, Kabir Khan said that the song Chicken Kuk-Doo-Koo was a political statement by him on “beef ban” in India even though it looked like an Innocuous children’s song.

The film, directed and written (screenplay) by Kabir Khan and featuring Salman Khan and Kareena Kapoor Khan in the lead, tells a fictional tale of a Pakistani girl separated from her parents and left stranded in India. An Indian man, played by Salman Khan, travels to Pakistan to reunite the girl with her parents.

The song appears when the girl, who is mute and called ‘Munni’ by Salman’s character Pawan Kumar Chaturvedi, wishes to eat meat.

Chaturvedi initially finds the request unpalatable as he is a staunch vegetarian — and his vegetarianism is inspired by religious reasons — but comes around when his girlfriend Rasika (Kareena) convinces him to let Munni eat meat at a dhaba.

Later in the film, Munni is revealed to be a Muslim girl named Shahida Aziz, named after Pakistani cricketer Shahid Afridi, from the Pakistan side of Kashmir. She had come to New Delhi’s Nizamuddin Auliya dargah with her parents, but had separated from them by accident.


What The Song Says

The lyrics of the song, sung by Salman’s character, says:

Chowk Chandani, Chaudhary Dhaba

Raat Din Yahan Shor Sharaba

Aadha Hai Non-Veg

Aur Veg Hai Aadha

Spasht Kijiye Kya Hai Iraada

(At the Chaudhary dhaba in Chandi Chowk area of New Delhi, there is a lot of rush, be it day or night. Half of the menu is vegetarian while the rest is non-vegetarian. Tell them what you intend to eat)

Chahiye Naan Ya Roti

Chahiye Raan Ya Boti

Manga lo Ram Kasam Kasht Ho Jaaye

Thodi Biryani Bukhari

Thodi Phir Nalli Nihari

Le Aao Aaj Dharam Bhrasht Ho Jaaye

(Order whatever you want, be it naan or chapati, or different dishes of mutton, but hurry up for Lord Ram’s sake. Bring the meat dishes, let my religion be destroyed)

… Laao Kofta, Laao Korma

Laao Shorba, Laao Shawarma

Saare Upvaas Bhale Nasht Ho Jaaye

(Bring the meat dishes, even if that means the sacred Hindu fasts are broken).

What Kabir Khan Said About His ‘Politics’

Kabir, who shifted from documentaries to films with his directorial debut Kabul Express in 2006, told the interviewer that in writing scripts or screenplay, “intention is everything” (“neeyat hi sab kuch hai”).

He said, “For me the politics of the film is very important… I have often heard — and I get very worried when I hear this — people in the industry say we are not interested in politics or we are apolitical... As human beings you cannot be apolitical… The way we frame a character is telling our politics. The words and lines our characters are speaking is telling our politics. You are revealing something about your ideology with every word and every shot in your film… Sometimes saying apolitical only reeks of your privilege…”.

Kabir went on to cite the Chicken Kuk-Doo-Koo song as a “classic example” of the point he was making.

“The chicken song at face value is the most popular song among kids because of the way Salman and Kareena are dancing. But it’s also the most political song of the film because it came in the face of beef ban. The song is basically saying, this is Chaudhary dhaba, which is a metaphor for India, half the menu is vegetarian, and the other half is non-vegetarian. You decide what you want to eat and all of us sit together and eat. That’s the way you slip in your politics”.


The Bigotry In The Song

Preaching to non-Muslims in India about tolerance to meat is laughable. Look around, a large number of restaurants and dhabas serving meat are run by Hindus. A large number of their customers are Hindus. Those who do not wish to eat at places that serve meat, eat at vegetarian restaurants and dhabas, that display this speciality on their signboards.


The country has no history of religiously vegetarian groups that include certain caste groups of Hindus, Jains and some sects of Buddhists, prohibiting Muslims from eating chicken or mutton or closing down eateries serving the meat.


On the other hand, there are many cases of non-Muslim vegetarian women subjected to forceful eating of meat as a mandatory ritual accompanying their conversion to Islam.


With Kabir Khan’s recent admission, his “politics” stands exposed as bigoted.


The song makes open mockery of religious beliefs of vegetarians and seems to be a deliberate attempt to influence impressionable children from devout families into eating meat.


The song shows meat-eating as an act of mutual religious respect, suggesting that communal tension between Muslims and non-Muslims, particularly the majority Hindus, will cease to exist if the latter adopts the meat-eating ways of the former.


This is in line with the age-old propaganda by Islamists of cheering one-way religious respect while scoffing at all ways and manners of “kafirs”.


In Bollywood, hardly any film shows a Muslim character praying in Hindu and Jain temples or gurudwaras, but scores of films have shown Hindus and Sikhs praying in mosques and at mazaars. Hardly any film shows Muslim characters chanting the name of deities such as Ram, Krishna, Mahavir or Buddha, but scores of films show Hindus and Sikhs singing praises of “Ali”, “Allah” and “Maula”.


In Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Salman’s character is shown as a devout Hanuman bhakt who sings ‘Dharm bhrasht ho jaaye’ and ‘upvaas bhale nasht ho jaaye’.


Can the filmmaker show a devout namazi hero serving pork and singing ‘deen barbaad ho jaaye’ or ‘roza kharab ho jaaye’?


Kabir’s Politics Is Bigoted

Bajrangi Bhaijaan shows Pakistanis as great souls who observe absolute equality in mosques and whole-heartedly try to help a Hindu in his pursuit even as saffron flags-wielding men are shown as thugs attacking Pakistani embassy in India.

The film shows that the purpose of Salman’s character is achieved only by the grace of a Muslim pir baba.

The song, Bhar do Joli mera ya Mohammed, that plays when Salman’s character goes to a dargah to make a wish to God, was originally sung by Sabri Brothers from Pakistan.

The same song was earlier used by Bollywood in 1978 film Ganga Ki Saugandh. The film, about caste-related evils in the Indian society, had three villains namely the (Brahmin), Lala (Baniya) and Thakur (Rajput); a victim named Kallu chamar (Dalit) and a benevolent character called Rehmat Khan.

The film was written and directed by Wajahat Mirza, who later left India and shifted to Pakistan. During his career in the Mumbai film industry, Mirza wrote dialogues and screenplay for several films including Mother India, that was based on a highly controversial novel by American author Katherine Mayo on a theme similar to Ganga Ki Saugandh.

The novel, when it was published in 1927, that is, two decades before the partition of India on religious lines, was heavily criticised by Indian leaders including B R Ambedkar, who questioned the one-sided portrayal of social evils in the Indian society.

Ambedkar, in his seminal 1945 book Pakistan or the Partition of India, wrote:

“…it [the novel] created the unfortunate impression throughout the world that while the Hindus were grovelling in the mud of these social evils and were conservative, the Muslims in India were free from them, and as compared to the Hindus, were a progressive people. That, such an impression should prevail, is surprising to those who know the Muslim Society in India at close quarters.”

Mirza also wrote dialogues for Mughal-E-Azam that glorified the Mughals, including their connection with Hindu marauder Timur.

In Kabir Khan’s other film Ek Tha Tiger, the same neeyat (intention) made him show Indian intelligence officers at RAW creating situations that force their best officer to ally with a Pakistani ISI spy.

In 83, ‘oppressive’ Indian police trouble peaceful and patriotic Indian Muslims, who are the only ones to help the cops with scores of the live match.

Pakistani Army is shown helping India by choosing to not trouble the Indian soldiers during the match despite an ongoing border dispute. Imran Khan, former prime minister of Pakistan, is shown as a person happiest with the Indian cricket team.

Readers may be reminded that Imran that he saw cricket matches against India as “jihad”.

While Kabir cited one example of his political agenda (neeyat) in his films, it is a clear admission of how his various political agendas have been motivating him to insert specific scenes that somehow target the majority faith of this country.


The Flaw In Kabir Khan’s Take On Beef Ban

Kabir’s “politics” is not only bigoted, but also dishonest. He told the interviewer that the song was his take on the “beef ban”, most likely referring to enactment of the Maharashtra Animal Preservation (Amendment) Bill, 1995, that extended the ban on slaughter on cows to bulls and bullocks, in 2015.

Instead of showing a devout Hindu as wanting to eat meat to destroy his faith, a more honest take on “beef ban” by Kabir would have been to show an eatery serving bovine meat in the same Choudhary dhaba, where customers could choose between bovine meat and vegetarian food.

Kabir didn’t, because it would have laid bare his politics far too clearly and created legal hurdles.

The cow has been revered in India for at least a thousand years. There is a long history of invaders carrying out slaughter of cows to subjugate cow-revering natives, and Hindus and Sikhs making cow protection a form of fierce resistance against the practice.

Al Biruni, narrating the conduct of Muhammad Bin Qasim during his conquest of Multan, wrote: “Qasim first asserts the superiority of Islam over the polytheists by committing a taboo (killing a cow) and publicly soiling the idol (giving the cow meat as an offering)."

In his fourth invasion of India, Ahmed Shah Durrani attacked the Golden Temple in Amritsar and filled its scared pool with the blood of slaughtered cows.

Firoz Shah Tughlaq got bags full of cow’s flesh tied round the necks of Brahmins and had them paraded through his army camp at Kangra.

Jehangir’s memoirs mention that the corpse of Guru Arjan Dev was wrapped in cow-skin to cause offence to the Sikhs.

And so on.

When, during the run-up to partition, Mohammed Ali Jinnah was questioned by a journalist on the need to create Pakistan, Jinnah replied that Hindu and Muslim civilisations were poles apart, which is evident from the fact that while Hindus worshipped cows, Muslims ate them.

It was because of cow’s sacred status that Indian heroes such as Maharaja Ranjit Singh banned cow slaughter during their rule, even making it punishable by death in some cases.

It was also because of this history and majority sentiments attached to cow protection that makers of the Indian Constitution made banning cow slaughter and beef consumption one of the Directive Principles under Article 48.

A complete ban on slaughter of cow and its progeny has been in place in various states since the 1950s even though anti-Hindu propagandists would have you believe that it was Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) that introduced it after coming to power in 2014.

It is in line with the Constitution that the ban continues in non-BJP states such as Rajasthan, Punjab and Telangana.

With his revelation about his politics, one can safely conclude that Kabir circumvented the real communal issue of cow slaughter in India by subtly pushing for acceptance of beef by Hindus.


On Kabir Khan’s “Neeyat

The filmmaker has maligned crores of those devout Hindus who choose to avoid meat because their religious feelings propel them to adopt cruelty-free diet. India has never witnessed any violent imposition of this vegetarian food-choice and has instead witnessed countless cases of force-feeding beef as well as illegal cow-slaughter. Security agencies have linked cow-smuggling cartel with terrorism. But these will never feature in Kabir Khan’s fantasies.

Now that he has himself admitted to a constant political agenda in his films and proudly asserted ‘Neeyat hi sab kuch hai’, we cannot say we are surprised.

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Zeal17 thumbnail
Posted: 3 years ago
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Mods this topic is Bollywood and it stays in Bollywood.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Do mods have explanation to shift thread to dungeon within an hour of creating thread? While left leaning political threads are allowed to run for Days?

Edited by Zeal17 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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why would a character who is devoted to Bajrang Bali and a vegetarian sing "aaj dharm bhrashth ho jaaye" just because the little kid is a muslim and a non vegetarian?

So this piece of propaganda should have been obvious to us,we shouldn't have needed Kabir Khan to tell us about his neeyat.


He declared his 'neeyat' in 83 too,by showing pakistani army stopping the attacks so that indian soldiers can watch the match in "peace"..since we like discussing how truthful or propagandist movies are,why didn't we discuss this?

Kabir also referred to Mughals as nation builders and said that he was forced to portray hindus in good light in movies.

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Originally posted by: KhattaNimbuda

Islamization of bollywood has been going on since 90s after dawood and his minions took over the financial control. How else do you think somekne who looks and acts like shahrukh khan does made this far? And the guy is paying back by white washing their crimes through movies like Raees. He even made My name is khan right after 2008 terrorist attacks to paint themselves as victims. Going back to another one of his own movie, Main Hu Na, they ensured mualim will not be shown a villain and farah on record confessed it.


Amir khan ne toh khullam khulla hinduo ke against jihad chhed di through PK which was made and promoted in collaboration with pakistan based entities. Par rajat sharma ne jo kambal kutai karke uski aukaat dikhai yaad dilwayi thi aap ki adalat mein uski woh dekh maza aa gaya tha😆

Kabir khan ne toh phir bhi sutble way mein kiya hai. Hum buddhu log hai religion ko lekar aur abhi tak samaz nahi paa rahe ke there exist no sexular or moderate muslim. It is a myth. A muslim will always ve a muslim first. Likes of kabir khan proves it.


I love ur comment dear better wait for next year so call pathan will come n securitize the propaganda.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: blahhhh

why would a character who is devoted to Bajrang Bali and a vegetarian sing "aaj dharm bhrashth ho jaaye" just because the little kid is a muslim and a non vegetarian?

So this piece of propaganda should have been obvious to us,we shouldn't have needed Kabir Khan to tell us about his neeyat.


He declared his 'neeyat' in 83 too,by showing pakistani army stopping the attacks so that indian soldiers can watch the match in "peace"..since we like discussing how truthful or propagandist movies are,why didn't we discuss this?

Kabir also referred to Mughals as nation builders and said that he was forced to portray hindus in good light in movies.

Yup Is apni neeyat clear kar du aur baki Agendawadi Bollywood ki bhivjo movies kr zariye apna political agenda chalate hai..

Kabir kitna Pani mai hai ye to sabko pata hi tha.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhattaNimbuda

Islamization of bollywood has been going on since 90s after dawood and his minions took over the financial control. How else do you think somekne who looks and acts like shahrukh khan does made this far? And the guy is paying back by white washing their crimes through movies like Raees. He even made My name is khan right after 2008 terrorist attacks to paint themselves as victims. Going back to another one of his own movie, Main Hu Na, they ensured mualim will not be shown a villain and farah on record confessed it.


Amir khan ne toh khullam khulla hinduo ke against jihad chhed di through PK which was made and promoted in collaboration with pakistan based entities. Par rajat sharma ne jo kambal kutai karke uski aukaat dikhai yaad dilwayi thi aap ki adalat mein uski woh dekh maza aa gaya tha😆

Kabir khan ne toh phir bhi sutble way mein kiya hai. Hum buddhu log hai religion ko lekar aur abhi tak samaz nahi paa rahe ke there exist no sexular or moderate muslim. It is a myth. A muslim will always ve a muslim first. Likes of kabir khan proves it.

Exactly.. Bollywood has been doing it for ages. @gemsofbollywood ne to saalo ke proof ikhate kar Twitter par daal rakhe hai for everyone to see

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhattaNimbuda

Islamization of bollywood has been going on since 90s after dawood and his minions took over the financial control. How else do you think somekne who looks and acts like shahrukh khan does made this far? And the guy is paying back by white washing their crimes through movies like Raees. He even made My name is khan right after 2008 terrorist attacks to paint themselves as victims. Going back to another one of his own movie, Main Hu Na, they ensured mualim will not be shown a villain and farah on record confessed it.


Amir khan ne toh khullam khulla hinduo ke against jihad chhed di through PK which was made and promoted in collaboration with pakistan based entities. Par rajat sharma ne jo kambal kutai karke uski aukaat dikhai yaad dilwayi thi aap ki adalat mein uski woh dekh maza aa gaya tha😆

Kabir khan ne toh phir bhi sutble way mein kiya hai. Hum buddhu log hai religion ko lekar aur abhi tak samaz nahi paa rahe ke there exist no sexular or moderate muslim. It is a myth. A muslim will always ve a muslim first. Likes of kabir khan proves it.

Man I do think there are muslims who are genuinely tolerant and even honest about what their community has and continues to do;like I see on twitter such people(but perhaps they are less in number)


Anyway PK was promoted as a satire on hindu gods and religion in pakistan,unlike in india where it was promoted as a commentary on all religions.

But where was the satire or commentary on islam or even christianity in the movie?


I think SRK became the superstar he is coz of all the typical romantic movies he did,when people get their kind of romance they don't care about the acting level.Good looks toh most heroes in BW don't need.But yes he has done movies whitewashing all these muslim criminals and terrorists.But so have hindus in BW,the rot in this industry doesn't limit itself to muslim actors and makers.Without the keeda of pseudo secularism biting hindus,our country and this movie making couldn't have been the way it is..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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That's diabolical 😵

I have seen the movie several times and this was never in my mind when I watched the scene, why would he put it out there like this? If he wanted to represent this and was brave about it, he could've shown Pawan eating chicken, whats the big deal?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Are there duplicate threads due to technical glitches? I'm seeing this thread in the Debate Mansion too.



EDIT: Got it! Zeal created another one after mods quickly moved the thread despite its relevance to BW. 😵‍💫

Edited by Wistfulness - 3 years ago

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