Kundaly/ horoscope matching is imp? - Page 4

Originally posted by: ani11

there is something called Faith and sometimes people do use it as a parameter in their lives and it works.I have never seen or heard God either but my faith in him is there.What is out there in this universe the human does'nt even know .000001 % of it yet we claim to be the most intelligent of all the species because we know that 2+2 is four and water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen😆.

going for a fulltu insanity plea here😆😆😆

God, fine, but you dont make changes in life b'cos God does not want you to correct? If you do that is called superstitious

Astrology I understand upto, ok, this is what predicted in my future, great, no problem, but then doing puja paat to change it😆, that is what I dont get, ok Do the puja paat if it makes you feel good, all for it

I just wish they had a puja for a disaster recovery scenario😆😆😆, it would be a lot of fun to make a proposal for it😆😆😆, here atleast I know a CPU, a disk is eventually going to crash😆😆😆

Originally posted by: ani11

doing pooja paath is not a part of astrology ,its for the peace of ur own mind but anyway that is not the point,the point is what gives u the right to laugh at people who believe in astrology or doing pooja,do u know any more then them.The fact is that we all know nothing and people laugh because that is best thing to do in the face of ignorance.

that works two ways, ignorance is a two way street

There are two parts of Astrology that are up for question, at the "art" shall we say about Astrology, It is something one beleives in or not, that is an individual's choice

The part that is up for question is the part where things are done to alter it.

Let us take an example: An astrologer predicts based upon the position of stars at the time of your birth, this child will have this characteristics, these are the future predictions.

fine, no questions, it is an artform

On the outset, religion has no relationship with Astrology, it is a standalone thing, however the fact religion is used to justify it, is the part that stands out

Originally posted by: sareg

going for a fulltu insanity plea here😆😆😆

God, fine, but you dont make changes in life b'cos God does not want you to correct? If you do that is called superstitious

Astrology I understand upto, ok, this is what predicted in my future, great, no problem, but then doing puja paat to change it😆, that is what I dont get, ok Do the puja paat if it makes you feel good, all for it

I just wish they had a puja for a disaster recovery scenario😆😆😆, it would be a lot of fun to make a proposal for it😆😆😆, here atleast I know a CPU, a disk is eventually going to crash😆😆😆

Ok today you are asking for puja paath for disaster recovery tomorrow you might ask some dead man to be brought back to life...😆 Its literally like you meeting a chinese guy and laughing at his language (lets assume you dont know there is a country called China) since he doesnt make sense and then handing him a wren and martin to prove "Chinese isnt even a language"!!!😆

Originally posted by: sareg

that works two ways, ignorance is a two way street

There are two parts of Astrology that are up for question, at the "art" shall we say about Astrology, It is something one beleives in or not, that is an individual's choice

The part that is up for question is the part where things are done to alter it.

Let us take an example: An astrologer predicts based upon the position of stars at the time of your birth, this child will have this characteristics, these are the future predictions.

fine, no questions, it is an artform Its not an art form two astrologers should never differ too much in their predictions... Dont put the short-comings of an astrologer on astrology itself...😆

On the outset, religion has no relationship with Astrology, it is a standalone thing, however the fact religion is used to justify it, is the part that stands out

You should change that to hindu religion.. Western astrology doesnt put Jesus or Moses in the mix...😆

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Ok today you are asking for puja paath for disaster recovery tomorrow you might ask some dead man to be brought back to life...😆 Its literally like you meeting a chinese guy and laughing at his language (lets assume you dont know there is a country called China) since he doesnt make sense and then handing him a wren and martin to prove "Chinese isnt even a language"!!!😆

it is not the question of the chinese guys existance or the language, he exists and that is in front of you, I am not even questioning Astrology's validity, That is a question of faith

The question if you have not followed, is the tie up with religion, how is the religious aspect, the puja's come into picture for this

Originally posted by: sareg

it is not the question of the chinese guys existance or the language, he exists and that is in front of you, I am not even questioning Astrology's validity, That is a question of faith

The question if you have not followed, is the tie up with religion, how is the religious aspect, the puja's come into picture for this

Thats what i always talk about the unknown... if I cant prove the connection that doesnt mean you can prove one doesnt exist...😊 so you question something as much I can defend something and both are void or either proof or reason...😊 and your usage of scientific observation doesnt comprehensively cover this unknown so you cant use it to your convenience..

Ok let me clear my position. i am a non-conformist.. I dont believe anything except for myself and what I sense... so I am not defending astrology here, just defying your right to question/denouce it based on reason...

Originally posted by: ani11

well whether astrology is an art or a science is debatable,u said that science is based on facts but don't facts change if something new is discovered related to those facts.

Right and after that, it comes to the defination of science

All through my life I knew that there are nine planets,that was a fact for me but lo behold! that fact changes and pluto is no more a planet because something else was discovered.Does that prove that we don't even know the facts that we knew all our life might not be facts at all ,so where does that put ur science,

In reality world

u never know their might be another element in water besides hydrogen and oxygen,maybe its there but we have not discovered it yet,won't that change another fact??

yes, but that wont change water will it?

Astrology and religion both have been exploited by the so called pundits for their own selfish purposes.Lets not put the blame of all that on astrology and religion.

Science is a an approach where you have certain things and you are explaining it

Astrology is an approach where you dont even know the things exist, based upon their positions, you are predicting future, which is your prerogative whether to believe or not.

Basing your life upon what has been predicted in the future is the question I raised, if you go back and read my original post😉

Further question was if the future is not to your liking, religion(another Abstract) is used to supposedly alter the path which you dont even know was even going to occur, that is the laughable part, this is ends justify the means, and debunks the entire theory of Astrology predicting the future.

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

The point is if I say Yes, you can't prove me wrong...since we dont know a lot of things...Electro magnetism is not more than 200 years old.. yet we realize magnetic fields affect us...if unmasked UV rays can cause skin canser.. if moon can cause tides in oceans can it impact the body fluids in any manner.. All these are open questions so the answer is we have insufficient info to correlate astrology with some scientifically proven effect... but this alone is not enough to denounce astrology... 😊.. astrology works in the domain of the unknown... If einstein could figure out general relativity just using a piece of paper and pen without having to travel around the universe its possible there is some theory behind astrology which may not summarily discarded...😊

I never deny the unlimited possibilities of unknown. Yes it is possible to predict certain effects of such elements on human body ,, we may not know about it clearly but some day would know about in detail. however if I consider this theory valid and then predict certain future event . then that is the point where such metaphysical phenomenon or can say unknown external factor can not be the only factors affecting a person's fate I think you wouldn't prove me wrong either if I said that changes may be a cause by strong human psychic factor( we are still exploring it ) or some other factors related to mortal life.

for eg. if some one predict death of a person , and that person get isolated and stay on one place doing spritual acts.. now if analyzing whole activity than known causes of death are very much minimized . Isolation - no infection ,much less chances of accidents. spritual acts -good effects on human body in general etc ... so mainly person do alot of preventive measures nothing to do with some unkown external factors beyond reach.

Originally posted by: sareg

Science is a an approach where you have certain things and you are explaining it Most often its just relating cause and effect through experimentation based on repeatability predictability... and consistency... you dont have anything more than a deductive association..what astrology lacks is the fundamental premise.

Astrology is an approach where you dont even know the things exist, based upon their positions, you are predicting future, which is your prerogative whether to believe or not.

Basing your life upon what has been predicted in the future is the question I raised, if you go back and read my original post😉

Further question was if the future is not to your liking, religion(another Abstract) is used to supposedly alter the path which you dont even know was even going to occur, that is the laughable part,wasnt that alteration based on that possibility in first place? Astrology has its own ground rules..Yes and 1 + 1 = 10..................somebody who never knew base 2 arithmetic would always question it for life..as sure as he knows he has 10 fingers and 10 toes so thats crap for him.. this is ends justify the means, and debunks the entire theory of Astrology predicting the future.

Originally posted by: qwertyesque