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Posted: 9 years ago
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Well!!.. Star Wars got me thinking 😆
No but on a serious note... is it really wrong?
What if one does fall in love with someone they should not?

Love for that matter..is it just a physiological and psychological need that must be suppressed based on society's norms?

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yeah, I do believe incest is wrong.
There are societal and religious reasons which should or should not be discussed in an open forum.
Anyways, I do believe incest is wrong.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Depending on which society and what is the relation between the boy and the girl, definition of incest changes. Marrying cousin brother or sister was quite prevalent in European royal families and exists even now among Muslims, but many other societies will not approve. I've heard that in Tamil Nadu it is okay for the maternal uncle to marry his niece, most societies will find it super weird. Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs are famous for sibling marriage, which is a strict no-no for all modern societies. On the other hand, some Hindus consider marrying within the gotra to be incestuous, which most people will find to be too extreme. I guess the only constant when it comes to incest is parent-offspring relation, as apart from some mythologies, haven't heard of any society where it is not condemned.

When the opinions are so mixed, it is very difficult to say for sure what constitutes incest and whether incest is actually wrong. If this society, religion didn't exist, it's very difficult to say what would have happened and the closest answer that we can get is from the wild animals. As far as I know, incest or inbreeding do occur among wild animals, but for most part they tend to avoid inbreeding. Even if I ignore society and religion, I think incest, especially among extremely close relations like parent-offspring and sibling, is not a good idea, because of the health risk involved for the offspring that will be born out of such an incestuous relationship.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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How does it make a difference what two people do in their bedrooms?

Private life should be relegated to bedrooms. It's not for anyone to talk about anyone else's private life.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

How does it make a difference what two people do in their bedrooms?

Private life should be relegated to bedrooms. It's not for anyone to talk about anyone else's private life.

The extreme libertarian in me would like to agree to that, but there is just one problem - what about the health risk for the offspring? Had there been no risks to the offspring, I guess many societies won't have bothered debating about whether incest is wrong and which all relatives should be out of bounds for marriage.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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In modern society we have been conditioned to find incest wrong and immoral. Personally, I find the idea of incest amidst close relatives repulsive.
On the other hand though, I do not think what two consenting adults of sound mind do in the bedroom is anyone's business. Inbreeding does cause serious health risks. So incest for procreation is immoral due to the harm it causes offspring.

Ideally though any couple planning to conceive should get pre-pregnancy genetic testing and health checkups done. There are many factors that can create risks or cause birth defects.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

In modern society we have been conditioned to find incest wrong and immoral. Personally, I find the idea of incest amidst close relatives repulsive.

On the other hand though, I do not think what two consenting adults of sound mind do in the bedroom is anyone's business. Inbreeding does cause serious health risks. So incest for procreation is immoral due to the harm it causes offspring.

Ideally though any couple planning to conceive should get pre-pregnancy genetic testing and health checkups done. There are many factors that can create risks or cause birth defects.



also, banging your cousin is icky.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Enigmatic Zephyr, This post is based on your question.

The question is a good one. But why does someone fall in love with someone he/she is not to? As you say, love is definitely a physiological and psychological need. But how does one get love? How does one express love? Love is definitely the basic need for everyone. What is that love? What I understand is the basic need for everyone is care, compassion, gentleness, tenderness and understanding. And when a person doesn't get the required care, compassion, gentleness, tenderness and understanding, he/she doesn't know the true need but for doing something try to satisfy oneself using sex. The reason we need a family is the family is the place one gets care, compassion, gentleness, tenderness and understanding and when everyone has adequately these qualities love flows freely and in this type of family talking about sex is also not a taboo. Even when two adults have sex, it is always better if the sex is accompanied by these qualities and that is what is to happen in husband-wife relationship also. In this situation, any person expresses love to others in the right way and the person falls in love only with the right person. If it is to be expressed in another way, one has to be with the other person, available to the other person and present to the other person.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

Depending on which society and what is the relation between the boy and the girl, definition of incest changes. Marrying cousin brother or sister was quite prevalent in European royal families and exists even now among Muslims, but many other societies will not approve. I've heard that in Tamil Nadu it is okay for the maternal uncle to marry his niece, most societies will find it super weird. Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs are famous for sibling marriage, which is a strict no-no for all modern societies. On the other hand, some Hindus consider marrying within the gotra to be incestuous, which most people will find to be too extreme. I guess the only constant when it comes to incest is parent-offspring relation, as apart from some mythologies, haven't heard of any society where it is not condemned.

When the opinions are so mixed, it is very difficult to say for sure what constitutes incest and whether incest is actually wrong. If this society, religion didn't exist, it's very difficult to say what would have happened and the closest answer that we can get is from the wild animals. As far as I know, incest or inbreeding do occur among wild animals, but for most part they tend to avoid inbreeding. Even if I ignore society and religion, I think incest, especially among extremely close relations like parent-offspring and sibling, is not a good idea, because of the health risk involved for the offspring that will be born out of such an incestuous relationship.


interesting insights...yes genetic issues risk is extremely high in such cases...
but I didn't know some civilization did approve of real sibling marriages.. (and siblings are what I had in mind)...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

Depending on which society and what is the relation between the boy and the girl, definition of incest changes. Marrying cousin brother or sister was quite prevalent in European royal families and exists even now among Muslims, but many other societies will not approve. I've heard that in Tamil Nadu it is okay for the maternal uncle to marry his niece, most societies will find it super weird. Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs are famous for sibling marriage, which is a strict no-no for all modern societies. On the other hand, some Hindus consider marrying within the gotra to be incestuous, which most people will find to be too extreme. I guess the only constant when it comes to incest is parent-offspring relation, as apart from some mythologies, haven't heard of any society where it is not condemned.

When the opinions are so mixed, it is very difficult to say for sure what constitutes incest and whether incest is actually wrong. If this society, religion didn't exist, it's very difficult to say what would have happened and the closest answer that we can get is from the wild animals. As far as I know, incest or inbreeding do occur among wild animals, but for most part they tend to avoid inbreeding. Even if I ignore society and religion, I think incest, especially among extremely close relations like parent-offspring and sibling, is not a good idea, because of the health risk involved for the offspring that will be born out of such an incestuous relationship.


incest has to do with family not cousins. so its more like father daughter, mother son, brother sister.. etc.. technically cousins are distant relatives.. although most societies disapprove any such things on the paternal side... so its ok to marry maternal side of the family but not he paternal side.. ... So incest is basically not right morally.it breaks the trust in the society..and would lead to primitive behavior... it could be right biologically...

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