MODs Vs MEMBERs - Page 9

Originally posted by: guess_gallery

Hi guys,

I don't know this topic will survive or will be closed. There are many mods here, Channel as well as Global and normal ones too. There are many members here. Some may be happy with mods few may not.

So, few questions

1) Are mods always right? Neither the mods or rules made by them ...

2) What should we do if we are having problem with a mod? of course u need to to be vocal ...but again if the problem still exists..even after appealing to GM's/Admin....then

3) Should there be a complain box directly reaching to vijay bhai or vidya ji.(any other suggestion ) yes provided it doesnt get delayed like the hearings in the court😆 (sunny deol's famous dialog..tarikh pe tarikh..)

4) When usually mods go wrong (is it partiality) yes aur kya reason ho sakta hai😉 favourithsm insaan se kya kya nahi karwati..😉

I (everyone ) feel mods are not always correct, same as your boss who is not always correct. I have seen few (i would quote many) members they have left this forum coz of this issue. Lekin, its there personal decision. I too agree this is not a se serious ( infact very sensitive )issue like politics ( just like God its there everywhere) to have a complain box (atleast it gives satisfaction to th e person ....ab woh inbox mein jaaye ya trash kya farak padata hai 😉) lekin some things (why not most ) should need to be cleared out( now this is very important...but the bottom line is they seldom get cleared 😭 )if any confusion. Regading mods going wrong.. after all human so might go wrong.( cent percent)

I want your opinions on mods and plz no negative talking abt any specific mods (wait till complain box).(eagerly waiting for 😆)

I know every one enjoys there mods company and seek help from them no one will have any sort of problem lekin as I vist many threads I see people get depress if there topic is closed (which is natural)without being given any valid reason. So you can tell abt that or any other issue but be true to urself....(anything for justice😛)

How much responsibility does a mod should have?? ( first of all he/she should be capable of settling a dispute in a logical and sensible way w/o offending the two parties.)

P.S: I don't have any thing against any mods.... I know few, all are helpful esp the great Bhaskar Bhai. (

Originally posted by: guess_gallery

1) Are mods always right? No, not always, as mods are also human and no one is perfect!

2) What should we do if we are having problem with a mod? In my view, you should first talk to them about what is bothering you, as they say "taali do haath se bajti hai" so it's not necessary that mod is always at fault. After discussing with them if you still think there is a problem then you can talk to another dev member.. but often members dont talk rather they get rude which makes the matter worse.

3) Should there be a complain box directly reaching to vijay bhai or vidya ji.(any other suggestion ) No, PM box is enough lolz

4) When usually mods go wrong (is it partiality) Not necessarily, we try our best to be united and cooperate but again mods are humans too & they too have opinions like regular members do😊

1) Are mods always right? well to me..mods are always right. they are like the Chief Ministers/Governors of IF who always report to our president(Vijay-ji). i think that what do is right becuase they have a valid reason for it. they just dont close topics cuz they hate that member. they dont close a topic cuz they don't like what that post contains. to me, mods are correct in what they do.

2) What should we do if we are having problem with a mod? well if anyone has a problem with anyone else in any situation, they need to talk it out. same goes here, the mod and member need to talk out the problem..they need to discuss it.

3) When usually mods go wrong (is it partiality) well i guess that mods dont go wrong. they basically have a valid reason and sometimes reasons for their actions. yes, mods are also members and humans so they might make some minor mistakes. but one of the responsibilty of a mod is to correct others errors and so they should keep in mind not to make such major mistakes

by the way, this was a very heated up and nice debate!

Originally posted by: guess_gallery

Hi guys,

I don't know this topic will survive or will be closed. There are many mods here, Channel as well as Global and normal ones too. There are many members here. Some may be happy with mods few may not.

So, few questions

1) Are mods always right? No - they are right about as many times as a normal member, and wrong about as many times as a normal member.

2) What should we do if we are having problem with a mod? PM them with long ranting letters and irritate the hell out of them - they HAVE to respond 😆😆😆

3) Should there be a complain box directly reaching to vijay bhai or vidya ji.(any other suggestion ) Yes - I think it's time we made the Dev Team more professional - where Mods can be picked, promoted, or demoted based on member ratings and feedback - and not just because other Mods want to make their friends the new Mod.

4) When usually mods go wrong (is it partiality) It's not always partiality - it can be personal values or beliefs that conflict with the general norms, attitude or ego issues, etc. Some partiality is there - yes, but it's not the only reason.

5)How much responsibility does a mod should have?? Only that defined by the rules and regulations set forth in the Code of Conduct - no more than that. Mods should not set forth their own new or specific rules for specific sections.

Originally posted by: jprasad

Abhijit has a good point about voting for mods. Yes, Abhi, all us mods have read your suggestion about democratically voting for development team members. In our current system, the development team will recommend someone to be a mod, Viewbie, coolbie, etc depending on the work that they are doing. In our current way of doing things, mods have been recommended based on merit, not on friendship or who they know. I really hope everyone knows this. We don't just pick a mod out of thin air and say, "hey, would you like to be mod?" Personally, I believe that this system works pretty good and I don't think that our current system is broken. The development team of India-Forums cannot be compared to politicians. At the sametime I must not forget that both India and the US are democracies so this idea is quite feasible.

I don't 100% agree with you there. While merit is definitely considered when recommending a Mod, there is also bound to be some personal bias involved - Mods are human too, after all. Some people become Mods and then become friends, some become friends and then get promoted to fellow Mods.

I wouldn't mind the voting idea though. The Mods can shortlist a few people - and the regular members of that forum can vote for them. If we can have this for forum banners, why not for Mods?

Hmmm Interesting discussion going on.

Ok here I noticed a general confusion about promotion of mods. It is really wrong to say that friends are promoted as mods/viewbies. There is a whole process by which each viewbie, mod, CM, GM and even an admin is picked. The promotion of viewbies and mods are most common, so I will explain in little detail.

Mods/CM/GM/Admin keeps an eye on potential candidates who are mature and keep cool in problem times, when issues arise and they can handle them. Without informing the candidates their names are nominated for that particular section, where they are active. There is a post in mods section, where the names are posted so that other members of the team can give their point of views. If they have no issues in other sections, and Mods and CMs approve them, then a final list is made, where GMs and Admin only pick and drop candidates, including potential CMs and GMs. Those candidates are under observation for couple of weeks, without informing them. After the final approval, by all GMs and Admins, they are invited to join the development team. If they wish to join, they are welcomed, and if they are not, then no problem at all.

In this whole process, friendships are kept aside. The person who nominates might be friend of that candidate, but ppl who approve them are not candidate's friends. So kindly take this out of ur mind that mod's friends can only join dev team. I myself don't know more then half the dev team members personally. But have approved many by looking at their attitude and behavior on the forum. And rest, I become friends with, after they joined the team, or after I joined it.

Person who brought me to Dev team, chocolate, I didn't even knew her. And we became friends after I was made a GM, before that, it was simple hello hi.

Another thing, we can't allow members to choose mods, they can propose a name, but can't choose. Because, they might not know how good they are. They might be very good on the forum and with the members, but in real they are trouble makers and even have a warning to their account, which is hidden from other members. It has happened in the past too, when members have insisted to make one particular member a mod/viewbie, because according to them that member was capable, but in real that member had a 40% warning level and was a big trouble maker. So not everyone knows what is going behind the scenes.

Hmmm I think that's enough for now and I hope the misunderstanding which u all had are cleared now…….. Ahmad I will answer ur questionnaire in a while.

Originally posted by: ritzbitz

very well pointed out.. i take liberty to add few more questions like

1)how many times a thread is allowed to open and close?

a) If a topic reaches 150 pages, then it gets closed and a fresh one is started in it's place to continue it. That is because it causes trouble with the bandwidth,and members have problems accessing it. So many times,a popular topic can get closed several times.

b) Sometimes due to a controversy, a topic can get closed. However,if members convey an interest that they would like the topic back,the mods take a look at the topic,make some modifications, and reopen the topic. We always advise the viewbies, in fact it's a practice, that before closing a topic,they need to take the advise of the dev team and only then close the topic. Normally closing of a topic, specially a popular one, is a sensitive issue,so we as a rule go for a larger consensus. Then even the GMs do not close such topics without consultation.

Sometimes, a certain situation arises and the present viewbie or mod closes the topic for time being because he/she cannot handle the situation, then wait for the senior mods to come on line. A discussion takes place where all the mods collectively decide whether it would be OK to open the topic, and suggest changes (like warning the members,or keeping a close watch and editing or trashing unwanted stuff ) and then reopen the topic. However,if all the mods feel that the topic is better off closed, it stays closed.

Originally posted by: ritzbitz

2) if a thread is causing damage to the forum in a certain way like humiliating others members in cluding mods , ignoring or throwing attitude... but is abiding the forum rules ... should the thread be closed?

Then it has to be seen first whether the topic itself is objectionable,or is it that some members are being rude.

If the topic itself is bad,and contains something that is against the forum rules,example, it abuses an actor without base, is a vulgar topic posted to abuse a member, is an article posted sevral times, or a post copied from anothe forum without credit,t is immediately closed.

But if the topic is good,is a discussion topic,related to the section it is in,but some members participating in it are being rude to other members,making sarcastic or personal attacks, then those members have to be warnd, and they need to be informed right away what is an acceptable form of behaviour. Sometimes members do not know if it is OK to behave in a certain way or not. Sometimes,they don't take the dev team seriously.........some members always have the habit of disliking any kind of rule imposed on them......so it's important to tackle those members. Now, to start with,a viewbie warns them, and many a times they are not taken seriously,and being new to the job, do not know how to tackle, so they inform the Mod of the section.If the mod too fails to make the member understand,Channel mod comes in,and then GM. If the members do not understand at all and keeps on creating trouble for all after several warnings, then they are finally banned.

ON India Forums, just as members have a set of rules to follow, similarly, development team too has a set of rules to follow,and a guideline to help them decide the extent of rights that they have to moderate any section. All guidelines regarding closing,trashing, warning are stated clearly.

There are also some usages and practices that have come into existance, like going by a general consensus, respecting a viewpoint by a senior mod....those are few of them. So as a rule, viewbies do not open/ close/unsticky topics posted by other viewbies and mods, mods of other mods and CMs or GMs or admins, CMs of other CMs and GMs or admins, and GMs do not open /close/ unsticky topics by admin without specif permission,but an admin can open/ close/unstucky any topic that he/she deems fit,and so can a GM. But as a practice,we normally do not do without consulting and involving the concerned dev team members.

These are some of the ways we operate.........there are many more things, but I guess you guys are almost nodding off 😆..........so will come back later.......

By the way,great topic.Will give my views later.........😛

Originally posted by: guess_gallery

Hi guys,

I don't know this topic will survive or will be closed. There are many mods here, Channel as well as Global and normal ones too. There are many members here. Some may be happy with mods few may not.

So, few questions

1) Are mods always right?

Nobody is always right..!! Mods may make some wrong decisions, but are willing to admit it...... just because you are a Mod, you don't always have to be right, I am saying this from experience kyunki I am a Viewbie and have made some mistakes myself! And it's a global announcement, won't be closed😊 The reason why we have Mods is because they are picked for their maturity and capability of being able to take a forum (and hopefully, being promoted to other things), and we all learn together don't we! 😃

2) What should we do if we are having problem with a mod?

PM them and tell them what your problem/query is, or PM a CM, GM, Mod, or Viewbie... even a Coolbie/Videobie can help as well! If it's a really big problem, then it's better to PM a GM or CM, or maybe even Vijay Ji or Sree Di, lekhin they can be quite busy!

3) Should there be a complain box directly reaching to vijay bhai or vidya ji.(any other suggestion )

I'm sure vijay ji gets 100 PMs everyday😆😆 Why should there be a complain box? Put your suggestions in a polite way.... and everything will be fine! We have Mods so that the Admins don't have to do all the work...... so talk to them too😛

4) When usually mods go wrong (is it partiality)

It's not partiality! Like I already said, nobody is always right and Mods are normal people just like all of the members.... so they have a right to make mistakes too nah!

How much responsibility does a mod should have??

Well, they definitely need to take on the responsibility of taking care of their respective Forum/Channel (depending), and the fact that if there are problems, to contact people....... it's not always a Mod's/Viewbie's job to do everything, but they need to be mature and helpful!

P.S: I don't have any thing against any mods.... I know few, all are helpful esp the great Bhaskar Bhai.