Exploitation of employee or blackmail of employer? (Khobragade case) - Page 17

Originally posted by: souro

I'm yet to hear about Queen Elizabeth being strip searched/ frisked/ patted down/ detained at an US airport.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Originally posted by: charminggenie

On security checks and the frisking , I say learn from them. Reciprocate the same etiquette , we are part of South Asia where terrorism is a bigger reality than US.

No need for our PM to receive Ms Clinton or other senior officials when our PM on his recent visit was not received by a proper delegation nor by proper security then there is no need for our diplomats to bend their backs as well.

While we are at it can we stop the Junior Diplomatic officials from entering and gaining access at South Block without proper clearance.

Above all never take a "strategic partnership" as a friendly term while dealing with a developed nation.

Also regulate the families of diplomats earn a salary by teaching in International schools without proper work permit.

Want respect start earning it.

And these measure are not US specific.

P.S. This discussion is too addictive and a good way to learn a bit about International Relations and Law!

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Btw Mr. K, I don't think India needs to be too concerned over "Goodwill with the US", its the other way round actually.

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Yeah, let's go with that. Krishna needs Sudama and not the other way round. Sure.

Fleet Seven in 1971 anybody?

What about it?

Like.I said, US is in no position to take a moral high ground considering its track record in defending homicidal consulate officials in foreign soil.

US is not taking a moral high ground. The yare simply securing witnesses so the case can proceed when it opens up (in Jan' 14?)

Also, let's not confuse morality with law and international protocol. Regardless of how un-just the case against Richards might habe been (in your words), that does not warrant or vindicate a foreign DAG interference in Indian judicial matters

Fine. Let' say we agree that there was "interference". What are they planning to do about it?


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Originally posted by: charminggenie

2011, Indian consulate general was also accused of the same offense by an employee, he was simply transferred and given immunity. Where was the US fight for victim then? It is a known fact for decades that South Asian countries and many more do use this dual contract system. Why hasn't US taken this at the highest level with MEA and tightened it's visa clearance. You need to understand the current diplomatic waters between the two countries before he pick sides.

Bharara has played it to the US galleries with this case, we cannot deny that and this will indeed help him gain political mileage. Lets not make him the batman of the Gotham city.

Thats American sense of fairness and equality for you 😆

I wouldnt blame Bharara as he was merely doing his duty. Its the State Dept that is responsible for maintaining diplomatic relations.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

I concur.

Raam jaane ji, rest assured that its a universal phenomenon. If its different sections in Indian society , its different nations for the US. Bigger stakes for bigger players.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

As RTH pointed out earlier, perhaps it would help to look at this act as not one against India but against one particular individual from India?

The way I see it its about violating international agreements and respecting a nation's sovereignty.

Amidst all the outrage, discussion, a few facts should remain front and centre. Ms Khobragade was an accredited officer hoping to perform her duties without fear of coercion or harassment by the host country.

That its spokesperson gave tone-deaf responses to serious questions. The courts can judge the veracity of charges against Khobragade but her treatment by US marshals cannot blithely be dismissed as "standard procedure" and other mindless bureaucratese. Her humiliation is what has caused the outrage in India.

Thereafter the manner in which the Richard family was whisked away by Bharara while the State dept turned a blind eye to all the goings on was seen as an onslaught to India's sovereignty.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

So what you are expecting is preferential treatment for Indians representatives rather than equal treatment?

As a diplomat, Ms Khobragade represents her country abroad and under "standard procedure" enjoys certain benefits. As do American diplomats in India. It is that simple. The nodal agency for diplomatic relations in the United States is the State Department. When things go wrong - as they clearly did in this case - the buck stops with those in charge of foreign relations, not the many local law enforcement agencies. This is the basis of conducting diplomatic relations.

If a US diplomat or her dependents get caught in a sticky situation in India, she would rightfully expect the ministry of external affairs to deal with it for a sensible outcome. Should the MEA send the erring diplomat to the local sub-inspector instead? And if asked, should the MEA spokesperson refer all real questions to the police station?