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Posted: 11 years ago
Nobody is questioning his role or his honesty , he certainly did what he had too. But to paint him as the Messiah without any ulterior motive is naivety .If he indicted Rajat Gupta , he also failed to bring criminal or civil cases against the bankers whose actions helped exacerbate the 2008 financial Armageddon. But again not questioning his integrity.
Though as a representative of US judicial and dealing with matters which are not only sensitive but as complex as this , there has to be a bit of tongue restraint .
His statement was pompous and he made sweeping comments doubting about another sovereign country's Judicial and internal laws on an International medium. That he had no right to do so, he has a case which he should fight on it's merit not overindulge in the theatrics.

As a attorney fighting for US laws inside US , he should stick to his job and not play global police that role involves diplomacy and politics which like the talk goes is not what he stands for.




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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Nobody is questioning his role or his honesty , he certainly did what he had too. But to paint him as the Messiah without any ulterior motive is naivety .If he indicted Rajat Gupta , he also failed to bring criminal or civil cases against the bankers whose actions helped exacerbate the 2008 financial Armageddon. But again not questioning his integrity.

Though as a representative of US judicial and dealing with matters which are not only sensitive but as complex as this , there has to be a bit of tongue restraint .
His statement was pompous and he made sweeping comments doubting about another sovereign country's Judicial and internal laws on an International medium. That he had no right to do so, he has a case which he should fight on it's merit not overindulge in the theatrics.

As a attorney fighting for US laws inside US , he should stick to his job and not play global police that role involves diplomacy and politics which like the talk goes is not what he stands for.






He is not a messiah or a savior. He is just an exceptionally successful lawyer doing his job. Although in terms of laying the smack down on Wall Street corruption, some Wall Street victims may see him as one. As for this specific issue, he picked a high profile case. There are many more lawyers who work hard for not so high profile cases of sex trafficking and slavery. They are messiahs to every victim they helped. That being said he is serving the case with integrity.

He is not an American diplomat or spokesperson though. To a certain extent the media is incorrect to make him the mouthpiece of USA. They should be treating him as a mere prosecutor - not one speaking on Indo-US relations. He was a bit of a loud mouth and overreaching. At the same time he was also trying to answer questions thrown at him. He did it in a manner building his case and downplaying Indias.


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Posted: 11 years ago
Devyani - Adarsh scam
http://www.firstpost.com/india/how-about-some-outrage-over-devyanis-larger-adarsh-controversy-1296429.html


Edited by ramjaane - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ramjaane

Devyani - Adarsh scam
http://www.firstpost.com/india/how-about-some-outrage-over-devyanis-larger-adarsh-controversy-1296429.html



"However, when Uttam Khobragade was asked about this violation and material non-disclosure of facts on the part of Devyani by the Adarsh Commission, he said that it was not his duty to inform the Adarsh Co-operative society that Devyani had also been allotted a flat in Oshiwara under the 10 percent quota. However, does this mean that Devyani has submitted a fraudulent affidavit at Adarsh to get the Adarsh flat? This is a question that needs to be answered and paper trail can easily prove this."

Interesting! Creatures of habit I guess.

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Posted: 11 years ago
The other side :
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/Devyani-Khobragade-was-not-arrested-in-front-of-her-children-she-was-not-handcuffed/20131219.htm

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.



Seriously, Mr. K? You support high-handed Big Brotha-ly interference of the US in Indian undertrial persons cases? Please expand on your last line, be kind enough.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ramjaane

@K speaking about corruption and illigal practices then Divyani is illigal beneficiary of flat in Adarsh housing in a recent scandal Adarsh housing scam in mumbai.So also beneficiary of another govt. subsidised flat in mumbai. In fact these IAS and IFS officers twist every law and fact. We indian r habitual of different law for different section of society . May be many IAS easily escape from this housing scam in india but caught in US atlast in some manipulation :)


Let's for a minute believe that Devyani is corrupt and she manipulated the Indian system to get a flat in Adarsh.
Now please explain to me, how does that concern USA and the present case?

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Posted: 11 years ago
LOL few becomes hyper now. No there are no correlation, that was just an informal talk. if interested anyone can delete that scrap , who cares. :)
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: krystal_watz



Seriously, Mr. K? You support high-handed Big Brotha-ly interference of the US in Indian undertrial persons cases? Please expand on your last line, be kind enough.



I would like to evaluate the "interference" on a case-by-case Krystal. In this particular case, yes, I supported the "air lifting" of the family on humanitarian grounds as I feared the family was being subjugated by the authorities over there.

As for wrongdoings, I believe I already explained my position in response to Souro's questions.
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Posted: 11 years ago
^^No country, I believe, has the right to interfere covertly or overtly in the judicial system of any other Nation, on humanitarian or other grounds (unless its something Draconian like stoning to Death). India's internal corruption does not render it free to incursion by other countries. As lots of people pointed out, no country's judicial record is absolutely flawless. So just imagine if all countries start taking decisions on behalf of indigenous courts in other soils..nobody would condone that I believe.
So no, under no circumstances can this be justified.


P.S. On the "absconding" part: Its immaterial what had transpired before Richards had left to buy groceries. She disappeared without notice, and that's considered absconding. And the consideration that something had "transpired" is presumptous to say the least.
Edited by krystal_watz - 11 years ago

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