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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ramjaane




yes u are free to consider that as kitty party if u r so objection on carnage , genocide , absolutely spontaneous all carnage took 1 day of break after the godha incidents and completed within 2 days after that , systematic cleansing of people like each 100 in many locality .

Actually i have not seen your data ealier , as you have edited that one from some other matters. That data is tried to show in great detail just like follower of hitler bakta gowliker of RSS , its a gobbel use of expression modi as saint infront of hitler

1. Before having a discussion would you like to substantiate your data with authentic facts and source ? or it will torn out to be a BJP pakistan video shown as UP ?

The source of the data all directed towards some hindutva sites or some facebook twitter gibberish, shall the author add anything as facts just because we were not born in that era and we will not cross check anything , out of that data i found 5 to 6 Major riots authentic, or blindly accept those as facts or might be author forget to add

Jumiri talaya : 1955 death 1000020

Ali gaon : 1978 death 1909082

koperkehrni - 1967 death 19282028

IF mad gaon - 1952 death 928019

IF personal beckery debate mansion : 9282028

If pankha non pankha war : 938833

2. Do you think one will compare a 1947 massacre with 2002 massacre , if that is so then modi have so much inefficient like india have its police , law and order of 1947 . Infact it took to properly implement our constitution on 1950. May be you can consider modi law and order is similar of 1947 . congress utterly failed to control these riots and control all fanatic groups , if we see history infact it use them weather shiv sena, muslim league or bjp against its opponent conveniently , and became the one of the factor of rise of theirs.

3. History says in most of the riots post independence hindu fanatics like jan sangh, RSS etc. contributed just like there counterpart. Yes we are not from that era but sometime learn the history with facts. Forget about congress it is so inefficient that it cant implement srikrishan commission reports against Bal Thackerey , shiv sena , bjp. Weather it is 1992 or 2002 or riots in 2010 against critistian we found trace of involvement of active participation of hindu fanatics , with their counter part.

4. If we analyse in the period of 1987 to 1992 a systematic well planned religious poision and riots sphere headed by fanatic elements of VHP , RSS, bajrang dal with background of BJP . have nt you ever question how BJP increases its mp seats from 2 to 88 . Haven't you hear a ram janma bhoomi movement , have not hear the role of hindu fanatics in riots all over india and specially in Mumbai by shiv sena, bjp rss.

Give me a break from all these discussion for some it is to start personal bickering, i am enjoying this mesmarising one of the greatest authentic documentary in history of india,may be you people will discover some great ideas . In your break enjoy a documentary that i have posted earlier , because it is worthless to dissect the same again.

What brilliant dialogues marenge marjenge mandir wohi baneyenge :) , after 20 years also we hear this from vhp , rss , bjp in every election.




[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UFdqadr-eyY[/YOUTUBE]



thanks for reminding us of "marenge marjenge mandir wohi baneyenge "..
someone has to be clinically deranged to come up and chanting that sort of slogan.. .
Anyway this was their original plan that led karsevaks to die/killed in train fire and killing muslims afterwards..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52
i am getting to know so much from this thread ..nice
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Posted: 12 years ago
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going back to the original topic..Modi announced PM candidate over Advani 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: beforesunrise

i am getting to know so much from this thread ..nice


lol that's nice 😛, but dont you watch Al Jazeera, the rant channel? I swear some comments seem like they could have come right out of there.😆

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum


lol that's nice 😛, but dont you watch Al Jazeera, the rant channel? I swear some comments seem like they could have come right out of there.😆


no don't get the channel.. hehe really? .. lol

now modi is busy comparing himself to vajpayee..

the weird thing is , BJP did some work..India managed to see through 2008..ofcourse RBI policies also play their role..anyhow..congress got to reap benefits..now congress has left state in such a bad state..

even if modi does miracle..growth would be gradual..and i wonder if masses will feel he hasn't lived up to the expectation..and thus bringing congress again in power..and they get to reap benefits again..😆..

India is in for some interesting times..

How i wish i knew someone who could read kundli..whats in India's future..😆


PS: Found out today, vishnu's last avtaar is still to come..kalki..damn!..and i was secretly hoping i would be the one..😭
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Not sure if am going off topic, but Rajeev's younger sibling was much more interesting character.. not sure if you guys happen to know this..I need to donate more money to wiki next time 😊

Sanjay Gandhi publicly initiated a widespread compulsory sterilization programme to limit population growth.[10][11][12][13] Vinod Mehta in his 1978 book The Sanjay Story states that the sterilization programmes were initiated at the behest of the IMF and the World Bank:

"Forced sterilisation was by far the most calamitous exercise undertaken during the Emergency. The IMF and World Bank had periodically shared their fears with New Delhi about the uncontrolled rise in population levels. India's democracy was a hurdle: no government could possibly enact laws limiting the number of children a couple could have without incurring punishment at the ballot box. But with democracy suspended, the IMF and World Bank encouraged Indira to pursue the programme with renewed vigour. Indira and Sanjay, the self-styled socialists, inflicting on Indians the humiliation of forced sterilisation in order to appease western loan sharks: the irony was lost on them. Socialism, like much else, had been reduced to a slogan."
"David Frum, "Hold On To Your Penis, a review of The Sanjay Story by Vinod Mehta (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/29/hold-onto-your-penis.html)"

The implementation Sanjay Gandhi's programme was first based on voluntary sterilization, driven by incentives; however when that failed, the programme turned to forced sterilizations:

"Sanjay oversaw the sterilisation programme. Incentives - radio sets, cash, food - were offered at first to volunteers who put themselves under the knife. When these failed to attract big numbers, Sanjay handed down targets to government officials. The "find and operate" missions that followed were directed at the most vulnerable and defenceless individuals in the country. Mehta records a 70-year-old Dalit - formerly "untouchable" - man as saying, "I have no teeth, I am going blind, my child producing days are over, yet they made me go through the painful operation". One state reported 600,000 operations in two weeks. In another village, a widower was picked up from a bus and forcibly sterilised; he died of an infection soon after. Policemen on sterilisation assignments ransacked entire villages in their pursuit of adult men. The threat to drop bombs on villages was issued. Muslims were often specifically targeted. When people protested in one north Indian town, the local magistrate announced his determination to "f**k their mothers" - "an expression which is," Mehta assures the readers, "much more colourful in the original Hindi." Thirty people were killed in the carnage that ensued. Eventually, obtaining even the most basic government services "depended on being able to produce a sterilisation certificate," giving rise to an enormous demand for forged certificates."
"David Frum, "Hold On To Your Penis, a review of The Sanjay Story by Vinod Mehta (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/29/hold-onto-your-penis.htm
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@LP..
oh yes, know it very well..and you know that sterilization program offered the Indian society much sought after way of detecting its a girl child or a boy child..😃..and thus go ahead with the killing..

ah..shoot..flight time..later then..

tadaa
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