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Originally posted by: K.Consciousness
You cornered yourself.
You visited my profile pages very recently. I can have the moderator confirm that for me.
Go ahead and deny that with a straight face.
The others are watching you BTV.
See, the predicament that you are in now is that if you accept that you visited my profile pages, everything you said which I quoted above is a lie. if you deny that you visited my profile pages, then the mod will "scientifically" debunk you.
Game over BTV. And yeah, this is how it's played.
Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil
I freely admit I have visited Mr. K's profile a couple of times too, in order to locate threads I could not remember the name of,
@RTH- ahh to that we'll say that God laid out the path but he won't hold our hand to lead us down it 😆😆😆 gotta use your own intellect 😉 😛
Oh i can go on about Harry Potter that how much i love the books and what i love about them and hate its movies 😉 🤣... Twilight too as long as Alex Reads Twilight can be seen as valid 😆 ... Will keep it in mind for next time 😛final bye ...
Precisely my point. We have our brains to think and decide for ourselves. We have a sense of morality and right programmed in us. Scripture is just a guide, not the be all and end all. If our senses and morality find flaws with something, it does not mean the entire religion is bad or wrong. We have to do be open to critical evaluation of our own faith. We have free will and conscience precisely for that reason, to think and evaluate – not blindly adhere to something because everyone else does.
Sleep tight! Don't roll of the bed laughing over Alex reads Twilight. 😆
Point is, the HP topic was similarly turned into a thread to like each others posts. Slap each others back, gang up and say to those who dared to criticise, 'You don't know ABC of Harry Potter, so how dare you criticise our favourite book and it's author'.
Point is, the behaviour over there of that gang was exactly similar to what you saw in the Islam thread.
Originally posted by: K.Consciousness
😆😆
My goodness!!!
Even an eggplant would know how feeble this sounds.
I am pretty sure it's obvious to one and all how you completely lost credibility with this one sentence alone.
Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil
a) I did not ask any mod to close the thread, nor ask them to, er, take actions against the ones arguing against me, or posting critical views regarding HP. To my knowledge, none of the regulars opined to have the thread closed.b) To my knowledge, no one put offensive signatures against any IF members. We were all pretty active then, and If even one did, it would have been noticeable immediately. If my memory serves me correct, I had a quote of Rowling as my signature.Exactly similar? Other than a few misunderstandings, and one prominent name-calling that I remember (which comes nowhere close to the ones seen in the other thread), and place-shifting (compared with locked twice) that thread progressed pretty well.
Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil
Still attacking trivial, lay sentences after another, while completely ignoring and disregarding the main issue at hand? Go back to where it started and put up your defense - tell you what, explain how each and every point you raised against me are true. What happened to your theory of visiting virtual profile = getting personal / care about personal matters now, I wonder? What happened to your statement of checking this thread later in the day. 😆 Compels me to believe your lack of answers at my counter-points to your accusatory piece was more out of a sheer inability to, or just plain incapability to respond than anything else. Think what you want of my credibility, but don't be so delusional to put the entire DM to your level. 😆
Point is, the HP topic was similarly turned into a thread to like each others posts. Slap each others back, gang up and say to those who dared to criticise, 'You don't know ABC of Harry Potter, so how dare you criticise our favourite book and it's author'.
Point is, the behaviour over there of that gang was exactly similar to what you saw in the Islam thread.
I see why you feel both situations were an instance of one group rallying or bullying to derail or shut down the thread. In fact this is often common with many threads, thankfully not as much on DM. However, I feel some of the differences between the situation are pivotal and the comparison is quite unfair.
I don't think anyone was trolling in the thread that got locked and posting essentially only to mock or deride the other side. No one claimed the debate was a waste of time, but still continued to take angry potshots for the sake of it. I hope you can see why people do have a good reason to get upset and react when placed in such a situation. I won't defend and say the reaction as fair or correct, and I've apologized to you for it since a lot of it was wrong. Just pointing out there was a good reason why it happened. I don't think the reaction of the group this time around was warranted or that they had received similar provocation.
As someone on the receiving end of both situations, I completely understand if you find the situations and reactions comparable. There maybe others who feel the same way you do, and its completely legit. I also get why some people may find that the Islam debate was a lot more provocative and inflammatory. I just wanted to express why I found the comparison unfair.