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Posted: 13 years ago
Arwen, I still remember those days where our posts in the Den use to be reported the same way. 😆😆

Glad to know that you're writing constructive posts having been a member of some of the juvenile sections on IF.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: angie.4u

The application of current laws and standards across a thousand and more years did not sound very logical to me.



To clarify that point Angie, I agree. It would even be hypocritical of me to expect that because in the Ayodhya debate I said we could not apply today's laws to historic events of the past. My problem is with the refusal to accept that something is wrong, and worse say it is acceptable even today. Can we hold kings and conquerors of the past accountable by today's standards of laws – No. But can we say that some brutal war and conquest was wrong. Yes. It was kind of that principle.


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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

I've read three versions of the Bible. Hopefully no Christians get offended, but it is quite a snooze fest. I like Kings though, especially the chapters on David and Solomon. The Jerusalem one is the most tedious one, with very non flowing language. The YHWH also always throws me off on how to read or say YHWH, do I read/say it as Yahweh, do I keep it silent, do I think of the lost name. I do agree that the King James version is the easiest translation. But it is fascinating how the same book is translated so differently.

I hope the Quran is livelier. And this must be a rookie question, does the Quran contain the Pentateuch or not?


I have heard there are more verses dealing with scientific facts and theories in the Quran than the Bible (correct or incorrect). Dunno if it is true though, 'cause the source I heard this from was highly biased.
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Posted: 13 years ago
@RTH - it might seem disjointed but overall don't know if u ll find it to be "snoozefest" or not 😆 Though u ll definitely find differences in the explanations of certain verses across the different schools of thought

and BTV- i m a LOTR fan 😆 .. the reason i chose Arwen as a username was because i like Liv's portrayal in the movies ...


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Originally posted by: shaktheback

Arwen, I still remember those days where our posts in the Den use to be reported the same way. 😆😆


Glad to know that you're writing constructive posts having been a member of some of the juvenile sections on IF.


U were a part of the same forum 😆

Den was the method in Forum madness ... miss those days hehe
Edited by Arwen. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Arwen.

@RTH - it might seem disjointed but overall don't know if u ll find it to be "snoozefest" or not 😆 Though u ll definitely find differences in the explanations of certain verses across the different schools of thought

and BTV- i m a LOTR fan 😆 .. the reason i chose Arwen as a username was because i like Liv's portrayal in the movies ...


Not a Tolkien fan myself, but I loved the movies. Dunno if it's hypocritical for me to. But I could never get into his prose - they seemed devoid of any human interest whatsoever. Also, I found most of the characters one-dimensional, and felt the movies did a better job improving them (oh, scratch that - didn't like RoTK for the most part, especially when compared with the first two installments).
But I will have to admit that, as much as I disliked going through his prose, I liked the places he described as a concept and in the movies. He is a master of world-building, and that, I think, whether you are a Tolkien fan or not, is undeniable. 😆

Edit: Yes, Liv Tyler was good But there is hardly any below average actor from the LoTR trilogy, is there?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Arwen.

and BTV- i m a LOTR fan 😆 .. the reason i chose Arwen as a username was because i like Liv's portrayal in the movies ...


Which hardcore Tolkien fans complain about as Arwen is mostly in the appendices. 😆

Have you come across one of the internet theories that LOTR is anti-Islam? I had read a conspiracy theory that Middle Earth is Europe and the west and that Mordor represents Arab nations. It was weird. It was a long while back during LOTR heyday.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Which hardcore Tolkien fans complain about as Arwen is mostly in the appendices. 😆

Have you come across one of the internet theories that LOTR is anti-Islam? I had read a conspiracy theory that Middle Earth is Europe and the west and that Mordor represents Arab nations. It was weird. It was a long while back during LOTR heyday.


Not me. I have only come across theories how Tolkien was a racist and sexist. 😆 Personally, I don't believe have ample evidences to lean in either ways. But the lack of female characters (baring Eowyn, Galadriel) do other me. Of course that does not make him sexist (that's silly to assume just based on that), but I wonder why. I understand society was different back then, but still, there are novels written prior to LoTR that have prominent female characters. I have heard from some Tolkien fans that he had a problem with women...no idea what it actually was though.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil

I was neither misconstruing your personal philosophy nor commenting on it.



See, this is what I am talking about. This is a lie, right here. But then, if we focus on this point alone, it would run into pages, and I don't know about you, but I have a job to do, which means I will not be able to attend to the rest of your comments in a timely manner, so you would then start assuming that I am leaving the discussion/debate half-way through, where as it is simply not the case.

If you are serious about dissecting, how about we start with this?

It all started off when you wondered, on page 65 of this thread, "why debate" implying that somehow the others on that Islam thread either do not know the philosophy behind a debate and only you do OR implying that somehow they were terrified in challenging you and your "scientific" ways. To which wonderment, I reflected that when you offend others, they just wouldn't have the stomach to deal with the offender. And I also opined on what I thought went on in that thread, not necessarily perpetrated just by you but a few others as well, which you too acknowledged in your direct address to me.

And when you address me directly, you can't then deny that you weren't commenting on what I said was my personal philosophy.




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Posted: 13 years ago
Yup Arwen. I miss all the fun we had naming Doggy and Dexter. Are you still posting in Den ? Where are the old members now ?
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades



To clarify that point Angie, I agree. It would even be hypocritical of me to expect that because in the Ayodhya debate I said we could not apply today's laws to historic events of the past. My problem is with the refusal to accept that something is wrong, and worse say it is acceptable even today. Can we hold kings and conquerors of the past accountable by today's standards of laws ' No. But can we say that some brutal war and conquest was wrong. Yes. It was kind of that principle.

I had that very post in mind 😆.
I get what you are saying about those refusals. I think after a point people simply got defensive.
It also makes me question the oft repeated stance about idol worship that is forbidden by some religions. Getting all worked up about accusations cast at a person, without trying to keep message and messenger separate amounts to a sort of Idol worship. Just the thing that was sought to be prevented by that very person ! Now thats ironical.

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