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Posted: 15 years ago
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Is the temple a sight seeing location? What the hell was he doing in the temple?

When I want to enter a place of worship of another faith, I inquire if it is ok for them to have me. If for some reason I do not follow a custom they know why
It is a place of worship. Generally the head priest has his sets of rules in place. And some are more stringent than others, I can see why certain temples have entrance rules. One of them being. Eating of beef is not acceptable to lots of hindus. If a person eats beef and enters a temple. The temple can be considered contaminated.
Dont like the rule, dont go to that temple, There are gazilion other temples in Puri or in the country.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

Is the temple a sight seeing location? What the hell was he doing in the temple?

When I want to enter a place of worship of another faith, I inquire if it is ok for them to have me. If for some reason I do not follow a custom they know why
It is a place of worship. Generally the head priest has his sets of rules in place. And some are more stringent than others, I can see why certain temples have entrance rules. One of them being. Eating of beef is not acceptable to lots of hindus. If a person eats beef and enters a temple. The temple can be considered contaminated.
Dont like the rule, dont go to that temple, There are gazilion other temples in Puri or in the country.


That would mean I have contaminated every temple and every ritual I have been in. Besides, I know foreigners who are pure vegetarian/vegan and may know a lot more about Hinduism and Hindu rituals than I may. So with these rules in place how do we figure out who's who. Or do we start branding ourselves to make things clear?


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades


That would mean I have contaminated every temple and every ritual I have been in. Besides, I know foreigners who are pure vegetarian/vegan and may know a lot more about Hinduism and Hindu rituals than I may. So with these rules in place how do we figure out who's who. Or do we start branding ourselves to make things clear?


Their rules and reasoning seems to be clear. Now it is upon us to respect their rules or bypass them. If one bypasses and gets caught there is a price to be paid. But again their temple, their rules
Finally it is a place of worship, it has sentiments of people attached to it. If one wishes to take part in the worship, they ought to respect the sentiments of the people who are already there. It is not a mall or a grocery store that equality is administered, actually Malls also have bylaws of throwing out people they do not like😉
According to wiki about the Jaganath temple
In modern times the temple is busy and functioning.The temple is selective regarding who is allowed entry into the grounds. Most non-Hindus are excluded from its premises,[18] as are Hindus of non-Indian origin. Visitors not allowed entry may view the precincts from the roof of the nearby Raghunandan Library.[19] There is some evidence that this came into force following a series of invasions by foreigners into the temple and surrounding area. Buddhist, and Jain groups are allowed into the temple compound if they are able to prove their Indian ancestry.[20] The temple has slowly started allowing Hindus of non-Indian origin into the area, after an incident in which 3 Balinese Hindus were denied entry, even though Bali is 90% Hindu.[21]
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Most of the kids here go to mosque every day after school (primary school) for Islamic school where they get taught how to read arabic and lessons on religion etc but as soon as primary school is over (approximately aged 11), the girls don't go to mosque. Infact I don't think I have ever seen a female above the age of 11 go inside a mosque for friday prayers or for ramadan or anything else for that matter.

I have no idea how those little kids in primary school managed to have time to themselves because as soon as school would finish they would go to the mosque and only come home at around 7.30, where they would eat their dinner and most people would just sleep after that. 😕

I like the idea of a religious place of worship being a place to socialise and not a place to spread hatred through hate speech to try and instigate and brainwash people. Gosh I was so scared after watching the BBC panorama show where a reporter went undercover to some mosques where some guys were preaching against the west.



What country is this?

In fact religion must not be taught to kids when they have no idea what they are being taught in the name of religion. They should have a choice to grow up and then learn religion of their parents if they are interested in it otherwise not. Their choice.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

Is the temple a sight seeing location? What the hell was he doing in the temple?

When I want to enter a place of worship of another faith, I inquire if it is ok for them to have me. If for some reason I do not follow a custom they know why
It is a place of worship. Generally the head priest has his sets of rules in place. And some are more stringent than others, I can see why certain temples have entrance rules. One of them being. Eating of beef is not acceptable to lots of hindus. If a person eats beef and enters a temple. The temple can be considered contaminated.
Dont like the rule, dont go to that temple, There are gazilion other temples in Puri or in the country.



Exactly, why give importance to such temples by going in there. Most of these temples are only interested in making money, they allow certain rich people who donate lot of (black) money to them. The day these rich people will stop donating loads of money to them, they will let all sorts of people come in to get their money 😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think a temple, church or a mosque is like a Chat Club, only allowed through invitations. 😆
But frankly if it is a temple (or any place of worship) that is open to public, all should be allowed to visit so long as they abide by the rules. Such places are not for people to gather round and talk rubbish either.
We should respect all places of worship no matter what the religion; if not sometimes we may meet with misfortune or bad luck.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bartz



Exactly, why give importance to such temples by going in there. Most of these temples are only interested in making money, they allow certain rich people who donate lot of (black) money to them. The day these rich people will stop donating loads of money to them, they will let all sorts of people come in to get their money 😛

these days religious movements and evangelism is raising tons of money.
some of them here is Singapore are now under investigations.
they have bought several buildings and premises too with the collections.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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its not about giving importance. its about the rules and the attitude.
i should have the right to go anywhere i want, and it is, after all, WRONG to prevent people of a certain faith from entering a place. thats the point made here.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I believe anyone can pray God from anywhere...!!Prayer does not mean saying something to god, asking for something, prayer means listening to god.... If you have to say something it can only be a thank you....religions all over the world have been teaching people unnecessary prayers...people are repeating those prayers.....They have lost all meaning, they have become pure ritual, they are only formal ....Prayer cannot be Christian or Hindu or muslim, just like love cannot be Christian or Hindu or muslim...😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Believe

I believe anyone can pray God from anywhere...!!Prayer does not mean saying something to god, asking for something, prayer means listening to god.... If you have to say something it can only be a thank you....religions all over the world have been teaching people unnecessary prayers...people are repeating those prayers.....They have lost all meaning, they have become pure ritual, they are only formal ....Prayer cannot be Christian or Hindu or muslim, just like love cannot be Christian or Hindu or muslim...😊



There indeed is no single, definitive way of praying to God. But that doesn't mean that the prayers of Christian, Hindu or any other religion have lost their meaning. Any prayer done with purity of heart and faith is effective, that is what I believe. It's not exclusive to any one particular tradition - they're all equal, depending on how honest and devoted the person following them is.

That said, the incident in the Jagannath temple is indeed a condemnable and selfish, elitist act. As long as the person isn't doing anything explicitly disrespectful, they don't have any right to unceremoniously shove him out, much less hand him over to the police. In my city, we have people of other religions and countries visiting our temples too (prominent ones, in fact), and everyone is treated with respect.
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