Grading system-Your opinion

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Now-a-days results are published in grading system.In grading system if someone gets 80 and above he/she will get an A.So the students scoring 80 gets A while students scoring 99 also gets A.Because of this system the students have to study less to get a good result and there is actually no difference in the result of a mediokar and a very talented student.And if a person gets 79 he will get a B and he will treated as a B grade student but the difference between him and a A grade student is just of 1 marks.
What is your opinion on grading system?Do you think grading system is better than marks system?Which system does most justify a student's result.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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93-UP should be A
90-UP should be A-
86-UP should be B+
80-UP should be B
77-UP should be B-
72-UP should be C+
.... and should follow with lower grades in a similar way... then its more fair.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JONAKI-

Now-a-days results are published in grading system.In grading system if someone gets 80 and above he/she will get an A.So the students scoring 80 gets A while students scoring 99 also gets A.



In the US, there is a 5 point discrete evaluation with embedded variations to grades. The variations are up to the universities, schools and states to implement. The grade point average more or less indicates where the student stands in relation to other students.

It looks like you are pushing for super fine granularity. Yes, those chromatic variations do exist in certain schools. For example, between 90 and 100, there are three possible grades: A-, A, A+. Similarly between 80 and 89, there are three possible grades: B-, B, B+. And so on.

Originally posted by: -JONAKI-

Because of this system the students have to study less to get a good result and there is actually no difference in the result of a mediokar and a very talented student.And if a person gets 79 he will get a B and he will treated as a B grade student but the difference between him and a A grade student is just of 1 marks.



I am sorry but I don't agree with your above classification (mediocre and talented). High scores do not automatically mean that the student is talented; low scores do not automatically indicate that the student is mediocre.

There are too many variables that come to play when it comes to determining who is talented and who is not. The word talented itself is up for interpretation.

"Treated as a B grade student"? What does that mean? Who is treating who and in what manner?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Well different countries grade in different ways. Here in our final exams, if we score say two or three percent less than the higher grade then normally they take into account performances in other exams/essays/assignments etc and can allocate a pass grace mark to achieve a higher, or they might interview students for a viva exam.

I think grading system is fair and should be there, if it was just a matter of pass and fail ( like it used to be) then this makes student lazy and not really achieve their best..i mean at the end of the day a pass is a pass and fail is a fail..but with grading system it shows you exactly how good or bad your pass is or how close you were to passing (Or how badly yo have failed) 😆. with the grading system arises more pressure, competition thus we work harder.
Hmm i feel like listening to the song stronger now..love the line '' and you don't give a f*** what they all say, right?''...Do your best and dont give a f**k what the grades say right 😆..as long as you dont have to look back and say only if i tried harder...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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From a teacher's perspective:
a hard-working student will put in all the effort, no matter what the system is; a lazy student won't. Grades do not matter in the long run!
The problem is not in the grading system but in the acceptance criteria of colleges and universities. Up until now, those who scored the highest got into the "elite" colleges (barring the ones that have their own entrance exams) and then those who graduated from these elite colleges got preference in jobs. Thus the vicious circle was formed. I must get high marks to get into a "good" college in order to secure a "good" job. I know of cases where students sacrificed their choice of subject to get into a particular college simply because of its "name". Learning can go to hell!
What is required are aptitude tests, counselling/advising and shadowing in the last two years of school to help students discover what they will be good at, and what they should pursue instead of forcing them to join extra classes to prep for IIT JEE or simply to ace the board exams.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SholaJoBhadkey

From a teacher's perspective:

a hard-working student will put in all the effort, no matter what the system is; a lazy student won't. Grades do not matter in the long run!
The problem is not in the grading system but in the acceptance criteria of colleges and universities. Up until now, those who scored the highest got into the "elite" colleges (barring the ones that have their own entrance exams) and then those who graduated from these elite colleges got preference in jobs. Thus the vicious circle was formed. I must get high marks to get into a "good" college in order to secure a "good" job. I know of cases where students sacrificed their choice of subject to get into a particular college simply because of its "name". Learning can go to hell!
What is required are aptitude tests, counselling/advising and shadowing in the last two years of school to help students discover what they will be good at, and what they should pursue instead of forcing them to join extra classes to prep for IIT JEE or simply to ace the board exams.

Err..from what i know, a good degree is a good degree regardless of what school they got it from...a person with a first class degree from a not so elite school would be in a higher posistion then a person with a third class degree from the elite school...degree, as well as the experience and the person's personality helps in securing a good job..its not all about A grades, being a book worm and a topper their entire life, it just shows the student is either a genius or has no life and spends the entire day studying and only studying, you need to gain experience and be social as well to build your confidence and develop yourself as a person... at the end of the day experience is given the upper hand and eventually the degree becomes nothing more than just a piece of paper.
ps...From what you said that students sacrifice their choice of subject to get entrance into a better school then that just shows the student lacks the passion to study a particular subject rather has the passion to study in a particular school.
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Edited by the_Naked_face - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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In my school it's different

93 + = A
90-92 + = A-
----89 = B+ (Theres a B in between, but forgot the Percentage for that)
80 = B-
79 = C+
69= D+
59 = F


I didnt do all the grades in between, but these are the general grading outlines.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: the_Naked_face

Err..from what i know, a good degree is a good degree regardless of what school they got it from...a person with a first class degree from a not so elite school would be in a higher posistion then a person with a third class degree from the elite school...degree, as well as the experience and the person's personality helps in securing a good job..its not all about A grades, being a book worm and a topper their entire life, it just shows the student is either a genius or has no life and spends the entire day studying and only studying, you need to gain experience and be social as well to build your confidence and develop yourself as a person... at the end of the day experience is given the upper hand and eventually the degree becomes nothing more than just a piece of paper.
ps...From what you said that students sacrifice their choice of subject to get entrance into a better school then that just shows the student lacks the passion to study a particular subject rather has the passion to study in a particular school.
Xoxo



The unfortunate truth is that school does matter. An Ivy league degree carries a lot more prestige and preference than any lesser local college. Getting into that right college does make a big difference, at least in the initial step in the door.

However, in the long run - aptitude matters more. Once you are a working person, your past degrees become irrelevant and what you do on the job and how you grow there matters most.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SholaJoBhadkey

From a teacher's perspective:

a hard-working student will put in all the effort, no matter what the system is; a lazy student won't. Grades do not matter in the long run!



As the quintessential lazy student, I can add that no matter what the system - grades do not always reflect aptitude. I never liked to study. I never liked to put effort. My school marks showed that and I grew up as the slightly above average but not so smart person who was always dumb for the high scoring elites.

As the quintessential lazy student, I can also add that there are very few systems that can actually motivate the lazy student to do well. As teenager it bothered me a lot and I felt less about myself. But now I'm like, I could give a damn about it.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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First of all, grades are a measure of how well you are doing in school, in the subjects that you have taken.

As a school student, I personally feel that the marks system is much, much better and wholesome than the grade system. In the grades system, a person getting a 91 also gets an A, while a person getting a 98 also gets an A. They are both put under the same letter, even though mister 98 deserves more and cannot be compared with mister 91. In the grades system, your percentile exculsively is a true measure of how much attention you paid in class and how much scope of improvement is there in you. Also, everyone has a unique category and people in a specific range of grades aren't put together under the same group. It also creates a true sense of self-pride, unlike the grading system, where even though you got a 91, you as well as other people think of yourself as equal to the person who got a 98.

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