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Debayon Dutta

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Posted: 15 years ago

#151

Originally posted by: Wilso
Yesterday, there was a funeral for an eight-year-old Queensland girl who was kidnapped from her home, raped, and murdered, by a 21-year-old animal of the same skin colour.

Two teenagers were arrested in Sydney yesterday for a brutal attack on a wheelchair bound Canadian tourist. They didn't know he was Canadian from looking at him. He was just an easy mark.

I'm not sure that race has got anything to do with any of the attacks that have occurred against anybody, and I haven't heard any news to suggest that any of the victims did anything that would promote attack against them. The perpetrators are simply bad people doing bad things. In every country on earth, there will always be evil people doing evil things - and there will always be good people doing good things. It's got nothing to do with race. It's got nothing to do with nationality. It's just one of the unfortunate traits of humanity.

So, why target mainly a specific community of another race? Come on, if it happens once or twice, it's OK. But no one believes a cock-and-bull story when it isn't really true. BUt I agree with whta you said above.👏

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Debayon Dutta

@debayon

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Posted: 15 years ago

#152

Originally posted by: rongna

dude, if that is the problem in indian itself how could you expect others to treat you differently. in india racism and skin color themselves are a big problem then why do we blame others for racism towards us. if we have solved the skin color problems in our own country then only can we tell other people about their behavior. it is just like we are recognizing other people problem but we do not recognize our own problem. it's just like we are blaming others for their faults, yet we cannot see our own fault.

As Krystal Di said before, you have a problem understanding English? Racis and caste system are similar but not the same. Go and read up on the differences. OK, let's not say anything. If we don't say anything, then the attacks will continue. It's called freedom of speech, so we can say all we want. We aren't recognizing our own problem. Yeah, that's why we have another thread on the cast and discrimination problems in India, which was made by another Indian. We can very well see our faults, and are acting upon it. Otherwise, it'd be like radical Muslim countries, wear women aren't allowed to wear scarfs and all that. Women aren't considered as low-minded and ignorant anymore. SC's, OBC's are getting reservations. And that's the reason why India is progressing. Do you think it would progress under the old thoughts and beleifes? ANyways, that's not the topic.

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Wilso

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Posted: 15 years ago

#153

Originally posted by: debayon
So, why target mainly a specific community of another race? Come on, if it happens once or twice, it's OK. But no one believes a cock-and-bull story when it isn't really true. BUt I agree with whta you said above.👏

I don't know that a community has been targeted. But the only thing the Indian media is reporting on, is attacks against Indians. And it's also only been in a single city. You're not hearing about any other city, or the news in it's entirety.

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Debayon Dutta

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Posted: 15 years ago

#154

Originally posted by: Wilso

I don't know that a community has been targeted. But the only thing the Indian media is reporting on, is attacks against Indians. And it's also only been in a single city. You're not hearing about any other city, or the news in it's entirety.

Yeah, only in Melbourne, but still, you y all the can't targeted the Indian community all the time, now can you? Even some Australian people were annoyed at the lax effort being put in by the Australian police.

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Posted: 15 years ago

#155

Originally posted by: rongna

may i tell u something??

its totally YOU are the one whos seeing everything from the Nationality glass.......please forget about the nationality for a moment and try to focus on the matter....INNOCENT Students are geting assaulted by armed thugs.....

i dont know whether this would be of any use to u, coz u clearly have a mental block when it comes to grasping points.

ONE SIDE IS -students who have come to Australia to study and get a job

THE OTHER SIDE IS- thugs with arms who are leading RANDOM attacks on indian students OUT OF THE BLUE at RANDOM places......these thugs DONT EVEN know the indian students personally, they r just attacking them JUST COZ they r indians.......its a case of race-specific assault......how can u claim any personal animity here??? and from the month these assaults started, there have been 20 or 50 such cases of attacks by THUGS on Indians.....RANDOM ATTACKS....by people who the Students DID NOT know....how can u say they (the Indian Students) had PREVIOUSLY DONE ANYTHING TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLEARLY ANTI-SOCIAL ELEMENTS and who carry along guns and knives?????

and how can u say that ALL OF THESE students were each personally at fault for having supposedly "wronged" these gun-wielders, when they had no connection with each other and were victims of ISOLATED ATTACKS, RANDOM OUT OF THE BLUE ATTACKS???

u surely dont have ur brains in the right place dude. read the highlighted parts , and see if u can comprehend .😆

as u said to me, "Being nationalist is good but talking illogical gibberish to defend ur country (Australia) is not acceptable.

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Summer3

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Posted: 15 years ago

#156

Ya Allah why is this discussion itselt getting so violent too.😆

Generally the survival instinct in most humans makes them see everyone as a competitor or a foe; until there is greater understanding and comfort.

Even here in Singapore there used to be fights over what they called "staring incidents".

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441597

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Posted: 15 years ago

#157

^^ coz people are making out-of-the-world suggestions and acting alien...

just read some of the things ppl have said to defend the Racist Attackers in Aussieland.

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Summer3

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Posted: 15 years ago

#158

Originally posted by: krystal_watz
^^ coz people are making out-of-the-world suggestions and acting alien...

just read some of the things ppl have said to defend the Racist Attackers in Aussieland.

Racism is a fact and in many countries there is little tolerence.

But there are some who are good too.

Few years back the Indonesians killed a lot of the Chinese people, who were economically well of. This was mainly out of jealousy and also because the Chinese are hardworking and clever people compared to the locals who are too lazy.

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nuomi.riceball

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Posted: 15 years ago

#159

Originally posted by: krystal_watz
^^ coz people are making out-of-the-world suggestions and acting alien...

just read some of the things ppl have said to defend the Racist Attackers in Aussieland.

dude you are saying the racist attackers in aussieland. yeah... right... what about indians attacking indians in the aussieland???? it doesn't seem to get your attention. in this case i think you are the one who is being racist.

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Summer3

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Posted: 15 years ago

#160

Originally posted by: rogna

dude you are saying the racist attackers in aussieland. yeah... right... what about indians attacking indians in the aussieland???? it doesn't seem to get your attention. in this case i think you are the one who is being racist.

Ah keep the fire burning. But yes racism is a real problem.

Today there is a charge of genocide against Turkey.

Turkey protests Sweden Armenia 'genocide' vote

Turks demonstrate in Ankara against the vote by a US congressional panel to accusing Turkey of genocide in 1915, 5 March 2010

A similar vote last week by a US Congressional panel angered Turkey

Turkey has withdrawn its ambassador to Sweden after the parliament voted narrowly to describe as genocide the killing of Armenians in World War I.

The Turkish government condemned the resolution, saying it was "based upon major errors and without foundation".

The Swedish government opposed the opposition resolution but it passed by one vote after some MPs voted against party lines.

It comes days after a US congressional panel passed a similar resolution.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan cancelled a visit to Stockholm scheduled next week and issued a statement criticising the vote.

"Our people and our government reject this decision based upon major errors and without foundation," said the statement.

MASS KILLINGS OF ARMENIANS

Hundreds of thousands of ethnic Armenians killed by Ottoman Turks in 1915-6

Many historians and the Armenian people believe the killings amount to genocide

Turks and some historians deny they were orchestrated

More than 20 countries regard the massacres as genocide

Q&A: Armenian genocide dispute

Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said the vote was a "mistake" but that it did not change the position of his government, which supports Turkey's entry into the EU.

The Swedish vote comes less than a week after the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee approved a similar resolution - by 23 votes to 22 - despite strong Turkish lobbying not to.

That vote also sparked anger from Turkey and the recall of its ambassador to Washington.

Historic argument

Moves between Turkey and Armenia to normalise relations have faltered recently.

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in 1915, when they were deported en masse from eastern Anatolia by the Ottoman Empire. They were killed by troops or died from starvation and disease.

Armenia says up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed, but Turkey says the figure is no more than one-third that and that many Turks died as well.

Turkey accepts that atrocities were committed but argues they were part of the war and that there was no systematic attempt to destroy the Christian Armenian people.

Armenia wants Turkey to recognise the killings as an act of genocide, but successive Turkish governments have refused to do so.

Armenians have campaigned for the killings to be recognised internationally as genocide - and more than 20 countries have done so