The Last of the Mughals Today - Page 5

Originally posted by: Crimson_Sky

Why should I be concerned so much for his carnal privileges? huh!

I dont want him to sleep or not sleep....if you read my post you will understand that what I am trying to say. Even I am not suggesting somthing ... cant you see what I am saying?...Its a speculation...and probability!

Mr. Jha and I met...we had conversation. Infact you or anyone else can meet him. They are good people who work for such purposes... and was very surprised himself on the interests of many different nations on that boy in particular.

And its no unusual thing...the gene research and collection.

I'm not on about genetic research, but is there any evidence to back up all this, i.e creating babies for research purposes?, since when did science start creating babies for scientific experiments?, do you know of any real life example of that such a thing has happened?

Originally posted by: Emptiness

I'm not on about genetic research, but is there any evidence to back up all this, i.e creating babies for research purposes?, since when did science start creating babies for scientific experiments?, do you know of any real life example of that such a thing has happened?

I am not really against helping poor people be it mughals also. but i am against giving special treatment to them. showing them as something glorious, something very special.
i am still a hindu and there r still mandirs left in india bcoz thankfully there were still some hindu kings left in india by the time britishers came to india. had mughals had full control over india, had they totally taken over india, we would surely not have any hindus or temples in india left, not in this world only.
now about the culture they gave and all... so they did not gave it to us they shoved it on us. we have always been richer than them in culture. we never asked them to give us their culture, music or what ever.
I dont have a problem with their decedents, neighter am i asking them to leave india. they have the same status as any other citizen now. but i strongly to object to giving them a special treatment. if something has to be done for them then it should be done to other dynasties too. y not peshwas, krishna rayas and rajputs etc.? y biased towards only mughals?

Originally posted by: angelic_devil

I am not really against helping poor people be it mughals also. but i am against giving special treatment to them. showing them as something glorious, something very special.
i am still a hindu and there r still mandirs left in india bcoz thankfully there were still some hindu kings left in india by the time britishers came to india. had mughals had full control over india, had they totally taken over india, we would surely not have any hindus or temples in india left, not in this world only.
now about the culture they gave and all... so they did not gave it to us they shoved it on us. we have always been richer than them in culture. we never asked them to give us their culture, music or what ever.
I dont have a problem with their decedents, neighter am i asking them to leave india. they have the same status as any other citizen now. but i strongly to object to giving them a special treatment. if something has to be done for them then it should be done to other dynasties too. y not peshwas, krishna rayas and rajputs etc.? y biased towards only mughals?

You need a better study of the Mughals. They had great relationship with the Hindus. Except for one kind (Aurangzeb). But for one you cannot blame an entire Dynasty.

You need a better study of the Mughals. They had great relationship with the Hindus. oh did they? then i really need to study them. apart from akbar who had done not much but atleast some thing for the hindus none others have done anything for them. all they have done is tax us and use that for their own well being.Except for one kind (Aurangzeb). But for one you cannot blame an entire Dynasty. i remm babur too who has done but damage to india. and all other except akbar have not done anything good, may be not bad too but definately nothing good.

Originally posted by: Crimson_Sky

You need a better study of the Mughals. They had great relationship with the Hindus. Except for one kind (Aurangzeb). But for one you cannot blame an entire Dynasty.

The Mughals are given special treatment because they deserve it. They were the Rule of almost all of India. Which Rules before them ruled such a vast landscape of India?... none.

And the boy is a priceless decendant. Also, I mentioned above some reasons.

Sorry mate, you're wrong... the Mauryan Empire under Asoka's reign was the largest Indian empire ever in history, not even Aurangzeb manage to rule such a vast empire.

And the rest is just your own opinion.

Mughals were not Indians though they ruled over most parts of India. They were invaders from central Asia. Calling them Indians whld be similar to calling Britishers as Indians. So if anyone wants to preserve the glory of these mughals, it shld those central asian countries and not India.

India has done away with royalty and royal families. The Mughals were part of our history and we had some golden years under them. That is all said and done now. In that sense many Indians descend from great kingdoms and rulers. India is now a democracy and primary concern of the government and citizens is welfare of the Indian citizen.

It does not make sense to support someone financially simply due to their lineage, be they Mughals, Marathas or whoever. Everyone works and receives their due merit. Of course if they are underprivileged, then by all means support them just like any other underprivileged. If they are brilliant minds who cannot afford education, by all means fund their education like for all others who seek eduction.

But we are done with offering favors due to lineage. It is need and merit that matter more.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

India has done away with royalty and royal families. The Mughals were part of our history and we had some golden years under them. That is all said and done now. In that sense many Indians descend from great kingdoms and rulers. India is now a democracy and primary concern of the government and citizens is welfare of the Indian citizen.

It does not make sense to support someone financially simply due to their lineage, be they Mughals, Marathas or whoever. Everyone works and receives their due merit. Of course if they are underprivileged, then by all means support them just like any other underprivileged. If they are brilliant minds who cannot afford education, by all means fund their education like for all others who seek eduction.

But we are done with offering favors due to lineage. It is need and merit that matter more.