Post 2012 - Page 4

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Now lets add some zing and make this thread debateworthy. What if the last surviving humans are you and your sibling/parent/close relative etc. Is incest still unethical, or is incest morally obligatory to repopulate the earth and ensure survival of the human race?

my views on this matter
i once watched one of Dr Zakr Niaks programmes on peace tv
where a person asked about incest is it rite or wrong
his answer was i'll paraphrase as i don't remeber word for word
incest at the beginning with Adam n Eve wasn't considered wrong as there were so little people in the world
it would need to occur for population to increase

Now coming back to topic
it is now considered that incestous relations will be one of the signs of the world coming to an end
so thinking abt post 2012 i don't think God wud let that happen given the time so there wud be enough survivors that are non-related for incest not to occur
and if that wasn't the case i'd rather die coz its wrong very wrong, its considered a grave sin

however another pov is is that was ro happen wud incest still be considered wrong given what i said in my first statement, i guess that is a question to ponder, but i stick by my pov in bold

Adam and Eve were not really humans as such but represent matter and energy (or symbolizes something else). Humans have their origin in the order of monkeys.

So even if all humans are gone for good life can be easily restarted from scratch.

All of us are dispensable.

😆

oh yes why not summer bhai, even if all humans get wiped out may B some surviving apes get the chance to evolve & rule the planet 😉 😆 . Now coming to the hypothetical situation posed I think incestous relationship amongst the closely related survivors is quite possible as this occurs even during normal times when there is no such compulsion. sooner or later natural urges will overpower ethical issues which are anyway not absolute.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Now lets add some zing and make this thread debateworthy. What if the last surviving humans are you and your sibling/parent/close relative etc. Is incest still unethical, or is incest morally obligatory to repopulate the earth and ensure survival of the human race?

Oh my Lawd. The world is supposed to end, there aren't supposed to be any survivors, and if they are, they're supposed to die soon anyways. And heck yeah, ethics shouldn't change from situation to situation, therefore incest is very much unethical. There is no such thing as a moral obligation to repopulate the world, why are you forcing the planet to self-destruct itself, woman? Isn't it clear - Kill everyone, save no one?

Sorry, I'm being stupid, but incest is still a big no-no. There's nothing left in the world, why would you want to bring someone into it? To do what? Die with you?

some survivors could always be there . Even during mass destruction of dinosaurs some smaller reptiles did survive. The world as we know will cease to be but not be totally destroyed. Those surviving will have a difficult time no doubt but that does not mean that no one can survive. Man has survived many hazardous conditions where none could hope to survive. So as long as there is life there is always hope. Life has a way of finding its way !(reminds me of jurrassic park -1) 😆

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Oh my Lawd. The world is supposed to end, there aren't supposed to be any survivors, and if they are, they're supposed to die soon anyways. And heck yeah, ethics shouldn't change from situation to situation, therefore incest is very much unethical. There is no such thing as a moral obligation to repopulate the world, why are you forcing the planet to self-destruct itself, woman? Isn't it clear - Kill everyone, save no one?

Sorry, I'm being stupid, but incest is still a big no-no. There's nothing left in the world, why would you want to bring someone into it? To do what? Die with you?

Crickey woman! I think some violent video games would do you some good.

Anyways while I do not feel that the world as we know it is permanent. The earth is in constant change. Entire species have been wiped out, not just by cataclysmic events – but just mother nature being herself.

So the hypothesis of last surviving humans is not implausible. Now of course one can feel what is the point of being the last one or few surviving human and die anyways. Frankly speaking most of the time I am cynical of the human race as in we all deserve to die. I think we are an anomaly and animals should take over the world. Although, the human will to survive fascinates me. So does human capacity to hope, fight against odds and the ability to be compassionate at surprising moments. I think the movie 2012 attempts to ask these questions rather than just be about an apocalypse – will we survive, why, how and what will our legacy be.

Speaking of ethics, ideally they should be steadfast; but it does seem that people feel ethics change over time. At least our perspective of ethics changes. For example Baz himself said that incest was necessary during Adam and Eve (at least I think that's what he alludes to) but it is wrong today. I've heard other people also explain away scriptural and historic incest in the same manner. Similarly, ethical practices of the past is no longer warrant today.

Personally, I do not believe there is a moral obligation to sustain the human race or even repopulate the earth. However, many people use the moral obligation of population sustenance in many other considerations like contraception, birth control, reproductive rights, homosexuality etc. If there is no moral obligation – then many current arguments become moot.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

As long as Bear Grylls is there humans will always have hope.

Oh yes indeed 😃

Originally posted by: crazy_sunny

some survivors could always be there . Even during mass destruction of dinosaurs some smaller reptiles did survive. The world as we know will cease to be but not be totally destroyed. Those surviving will have a difficult time no doubt but that does not mean that no one can survive. Man has survived many hazardous conditions where none could hope to survive. So as long as there is life there is always hope. Life has a way of finding its way !(reminds me of jurrassic park -1) 😆

post 2012 i'll be hooking up with all the gals who confessed having a crush on me pre-2012😉😆

Originally posted by: cuckoocutter

post 2012 i'll be hooking up with all the gals who confessed having a crush on me pre-2012😉😆

lol i know one 😉