Why is Feminist a negative word? - Page 5

Originally posted by: angie.4u

I fully agree with this ! 😊 creating level field is the logical solution instead of reservation whether for females or SC/ST. I wish our politicians as well as the public realise this so that they can take appropriate steps to adress the problem in a logical way . Level playing field is what we shud be concentrating on. That also means providing equal opportunities by means of adequate training .The tricky part is how to convince some parents to allow their daughters equal opportunities at par with their sons.😉 😆

Originally posted by: angelic_devil

Originally posted by: angelic_devil

Originally posted by: souro

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Masculinism is what we need. The equality of sexes can only be achieved through masculinism.

Originally posted by: angelic_devil

i will just sum it all now abt reservation, as we have zeroed to only on aspect which u think is a priviledge for women. oh BTW u said that women get priviledge, but did not give a single example and this reservation is something women have not even got till now.
I didn't say that women get privileges, I said they shouldn't ask for privileges.

there r two main reason for so less ratio of educated women.
1. financial- where parents dont have enough money to educate both girls and boys.
2. intentionally not sending girls to schools and colleges.
in both the case women need to be provided free education in govt schools and colleges and reservation quota should also be provided.
this will make more and more women independent and they wont have to rely on orthdox parents and husband and will slowly and gradually also change the mentality of people.

I've already said about free and mandatory education and laws to see that noone is deprived of their rights. They have already helped women in other countries achieve equality then why can't it work in India.
One more thing, I have everytime written that proper education should be given. At present although education is free in Govt. schools but most schools have a very poor education system and students are left to seek private tuitions, which unnecessarily burdens their parents. That shouldn't be the case. Everything should be taught at school including values.
If these are not there reservation won't be of any help to make the rest of the 47% women and about 30% men educated.

Originally posted by: souro

only bcoz education till HSSC is permitted are girls educated till that level. very few parents send their girls to college. so its not a rare case but a very comman scenario. and i dont expect a girls to revolt the whole family at the age of 17-18 to go to college. u only said it can fetch them a good job to earn and study on their own. so i dont think this is going to work.not even in urban areas let alone rural. thats the reason i am all for reservation.
Yes I said that only education till higher secondary is not helpful in getting a good job but I also said how it can help in increasing the rate of girls making it to college. when parents r not willing to send their girls to schools only then y will they pay for more expensive education in college?

You were only favouring reservation from the very beginning of the debate and didn't speak about anything else much. At present only about 53% women are educated, so if you introduce reservation, it will surely help these 53% women but will do little else to make the other 47% educated.
thats b coz u have been concentrating on reservation only. bcoz as per my knowledge its less. and u know whats the defination of literrate for these stats? person who can read write, basic education only. not enough to get jobs right.

In 1901 India only had 5% literate population and in 1911 it was 11%. Now we've a little above 70% men who are educated and 53% women. If men were only trying to avoid competition then educated men would've tried to stop both men and women from getting educated. But sane minded people are trying to educate all of them.
yes and sane minded people only proposed reservation for women.

I agree with the part that parents not allowing a child to study or work is a problem. Which is what I believe can be overcome by educating all, making education mandatory and making it punishable to obstruct anyone's education. and also provide reservation. for explanation refer to the above posts.
What I asked you earlier was, if someone is not interested in educating his/her children, then whether there is reservation or no reservation, how is that going to change their mind.
and i said more and more women being educated and self reliant will compel these people to change their mind set .dont u think mindset has been changed, bcoz of women being educated and earning?

That is because the number of educated people itself was low and in our society men were typically seen as bread winners making it their responsibility to venture out more (and you have to keep in mind that venturing out is a lot more safer now than what it used to be earlier). and so was cooking food and the rate of women dieing giving birth to soooooooooo many babies was very very high. so dont say that men did all the work and women used to sit their AC rooms and eat grapes. earlier the work was divided and now its 75 done by women and 25% by men. and dont say men help at house equally bcoz i will only agree to it if they make the meal half the time and so on.
As more and more people are getting educated more women are getting employed and they are moving up the ladder at work.
well they r and giving reservation will accelerate it.

Yes men are so cunning that they agreed that the society needs a change. Even before the feminist movement started there were cunning men trying to help women gain equal status in society. All those fathers who now want their daughters to be well educated are really cunning. All the male HRs who hired female employees were also very cunning.
a few , a handful of them did i dont deny it. had it not been for the initiative of those few women would still be the same as in 16th century. just tell me one thing y r there not girls at the top levels? and y there so less girls in IIT and IIM and other top colleges? and y r there so less business women and politicians in this world?and there r also HRs(male and female) who do not give jobs to women saying they will marry soon, they leave from work early,taek more leaves, they gossip more(like u said).