Salim stalking behaviour exceeding limits

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Posted: 6 years ago
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When anarkali refuses proposal instead of wooing her, Salim is harassing and stalking her

I mean hes making her do maid tasks for him in hamam

and than hes asking her to stand in yamuna river

I thought he exceeded limits with family members

Nows hes exceeding limits with lover too

Which girl will love someone who harasses and stalks her?

I think whoever wrote this show is inspired by bollywood movies where hero stalks and harass heroine till she says i love you and think thats what lovers do

But no lady will love a harasser and stalker
Thats not how love happened in 15th century

In those time just one gaze was more than enough to fall in love

Many times ppl did not see face as all were in ghunghat just voice and laughter or bangles etc were enough to fall in love in 15th century actually

But anarkali is a dancer so Salim may have seen her and fallen in love

But this standing in yamuna river till i say thats harassment actually

In todays tme anarkali could put a harassment post against Salim

In 15th century just forget it, just looking at lover is tough meeting even tougher even for crown prince


If ppl are watching the show, Salims behaviour is getting outrageous by the day

The writer has forgotten that was 15th century not 21st century may be

Salim is behaving more 21st century young adult than a 15th century prince

Look at all his behaviours since return to agra

1) He refuses to hug Akbar in front of all

2) He left party mid way

3) He got angry on Akbar and got up while hugging Jodha in her room

4) Hes getting angry on Murad/daniyal who came to his room

5) When daniyal holds anar hand in dinner room he empties drinks bottle on him

6) When Akbar tries to stop him hitting Daniyal he raises hand on Akbar

Which 15th century man especially Prince will behave like this

Hes behaviour is eratic specially with family

In 21st century only if some son behaves so parents will punish or slap them

In 15th century Salim would get whipped or jailed for such over misbehaviour with emperor and other princes that too without any provocation towards him

Especially 15th century no son will behave with father how Salim is behaving. They must maintain dignity of emperor position and fathers respect. I do not think Salim would dare behave so with his brothers or Akbar in such manner or Akbar would tolerate such behaviour. There would strict protocol following and dos and dont's. No matter what provocation a prince cannot behave so with his brothers and father so in front of maids that too or even in private. A father was still a father in 15th century and unlike 21st century where youngsters will dare misbehave with parents and teachers based on their moods that was unimaginable in 15th century even for a crown prince no matter hes drunk or on weed. Pls read Akbarnama etc in that Akbar tells his sons teachers that they can hit/punish his sons in class. Aurangzeb son would wash his teachers feet etc. So teachers also were highly revered like parents only. And Salim he was known for his scientific experiements and naturalist and astronomy(he discovered new galaxies etc like his grand father humayun).

In 15th century princes and queens did treat maids and dancers badly. Even today maids who work at home or bar dancers are treated badly by all. So daniyal behaving badly with anar was norm of day, Salim cannot show such extreme reactions.

Salim may think anar as his friend, but Danital, Murad do not think her as friend. They think shes maid to be used and abused.

Even Akbar, Hamida and Ruqaiah too think anar maid and can be abused. Its norm of day than.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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The makers should not have selected such well known characters from history. Since this is supposed to be fictional anyway, why not have all characters fictional. They could have given a fictitious name for the king, kingdom, everything. That would have made better series than this story that they are showing.
I completely agree that they should not show most of the things as they are showing. The whole story is overdone and too dramatic.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Fact...no Shehjada will behave the way they are showing him. No research had been done it seems by the makers reg.that era and the result is before us.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaavi

The makers should not have selected such well known characters from history. Since this is supposed to be fictional anyway, why not have all characters fictional. They could have given a fictitious name for the king, kingdom, everything. That would have made better series than this story that they are showing.

I completely agree that they should not show most of the things as they are showing. The whole story is overdone and too dramatic.


Exactly, they could have done that instead of mocking real historical characters.

Akbar could have him jailed and name daniyal as crown prince in an instance.
Moreover Salim is only thinking about Anarkali, what has he learned in battle field? If he is so desperate he can just ask for her to be part of his harem and no one would say a word.

Anarkali is pathetic, she behaves like the queen and is heavily annoying.

Akbar's character is very weak, very.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Everyone's characterizations r very poor in this story.
Agree with most of the comments here, if makers want to show their own story then why they choose historical characters, they could have made a complete different show from 21 century...


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Originally posted by: Suchi_Ejf_fan

Everyone's characterizations r very poor in this story.

Agree with most of the comments here, if makers want to show their own story then why they choose historical characters, they could have made a complete different show from 21 century...



I am an Indian who did her schooling in India and came to US a long time ago. A few years back when I went to India, I visited my middle school. One of my teacher was supervising a drama rehearsal and she came to talk to me. The kids were holding toy guns and looked like they were practicing fighting. I asked her about it and she said that the drama was called "Modern Ramayana". She said it was a spin off of the original story. I was surprised, so I asked her what she meant by "modern Ramayana". She said that the kids couldn't relate to most of the things given in Ramayana like Rama going to forest to keep his father's words, flying chariot, Ravana having 10 heads, the army of monkeys fighting demon minions etc. So they changed the whole thing to "space age set up". She said in their story Ravana was an alien who kidnaps Sita in his spaceship and takes her to his planet across the galaxy in a wormhole. And Rama travels across the galaxy with his space army ninjas to rescue Sita. 😆 😆. And the scene I was seeing was the armies fighting with machine guns and missile launchers.

I just shook my head and my teacher said that this is what the kids related to, not the original Ramayana script. The kids found this believable and not what we read or watched. I somehow feel the same way regarding this serial. I feel like the makers in saying we want to bring the story of Salim Anarkali to now a days youngsters have made this current version of the story. But unfortunately it is not making much sense logically as we are expecting a Mughal era story. Maybe they want us to imagine how it would be IF we had Akbar now ruling and there was the love story.

They shouldn't have taken such a beautiful story and turned it into such a fiction. I still cannot imagine Ravana as an alien. 😆. The only saving grace is the acting of the actors. Hopefully the makers do bring the story back to logical grounds.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I have to agree with you here though I felt Salin's reaction to Daniyal and Murad was acceptable . He doesn't trust his half brothers and he can easily see through their conspiracies

Well Mughals were known to kill their own blood for power ,Salim killed his son Khasuru for power so I can relate to the animosity between him and his father but they way they are presenting it is not in sync with 15th century . I would have loved to see Salim plotting and planning behind his father's back and showing respect to his father out of no choice .
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If m not wrong Salim was the one who tried to kill Akbar ? He killed his half-brothers too.
Mughal Empire ka paane ke liye Jahangir ne Akbar Ko , Shahjahan ne Jahangir Ko marne ki koshish ki hai . There's no difference between that or this century.
This can't be Anarkali and Salim story bcoz koi nahi Janta ki Anarkali exist Karti bhi thi yaa nahi.
This is Salim and Noor Jahan story .

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyy

I have to agree with you here though I felt Salin's reaction to Daniyal and Murad was acceptable . He doesn't trust his half brothers and he can easily see through their conspiracies

Well Mughals were known to kill their own blood for power ,Salim killed his son Khasuru for power so I can relate to the animosity between him and his father but they way they are presenting it is not in sync with 15th century . I would have loved to see Salim plotting and planning behind his father's back and showing respect to his father out of no choice .



Salim blinded Khusrau not killed him for revoting against him second time(first time he was house arrested)

Shah jahan killed Khusrau in his custody in Deccan

Murad was very good friends of Salim once they became adult although as teenagers they were suspicious of each others ambitions. Indeed Akbar was fed up of Murads nafarmanis as much as Salims. Later on daniyal also started defying Akbars orders.

Daniyal also had no fights with Salim although Akbar was considering to make Daniyal or Khusrau as heir apparents and in will wrote his wife and kids gaurdian should be Salim after his death. Daniyal composed Hindi songs and sent to Salim(when hes away on wars etc) and Salim sent him animals like horse, elephant and others as daniyal loved animals. Once Daniyal wanted salims favourite horse and Salim loved that horse very much but gave it to Daniyal as he asked for it.

Ideally Salim should be plotting with Mahabhat behind Akbars back. That would be more of history!!!! But not now once hes 30 years old not so young

Salim never had war with Akbar as decipted in Mughal e azam


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: srilotus

If m not wrong Salim was the one who tried to kill Akbar ? He killed his half-brothers too.

Mughal Empire ka paane ke liye Jahangir ne Akbar Ko , Shahjahan ne Jahangir Ko marne ki koshish ki hai . There's no difference between that or this century.
This can't be Anarkali and Salim story bcoz koi nahi Janta ki Anarkali exist Karti bhi thi yaa nahi.
This is Salim and Noor Jahan story .


Salim never killed or tried to kill Akbar

Once when Salim was in early 20s Akbar was unwell and Abul fazl suggested that may be Salim had poisoned him. Later it was discovered that the meat Akbar had eaten was rotten(or contaminated). Salim always felt Abul Fazl and others instigated his father against him hence killed Fazl.

Salim did not kill any of his half brothers or nephews.

It was Shah Jahan who killed 3 of his step brothers(Khusrau, Jahandar, Shariyar). Parvez (Its said Nur Jahan was involved in that murder or he died excessive drinking). Shah Jahan even killed 12 other male relatives that included Murad and Daniyals sons(his cousins) and Khusraus children etc. Thats why Jahanara and Roshana did not marry because no cousins males left to marry them. Mughals married within cousins because otherwise outsider is threat to emperor throne.

Aurangzeb killed majority of his brothers(he had 4 brothers), one escaped to some Burma forest but no one knows what happened later. He killed Dara Sikohs all sons and only left daughter alive because she was 5 years old than.

Till Shah jahans time, no brother step or own brother(or nephews etc) was killed. If they revolt than they were ordered to go Mecca or blinded not killed.


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