The Ashes 2015 Thread - Page 18

Originally posted by: HippoSucks

If Vijay, Kohli and Rahane go out early, Indian batting will go down like a pack of cards.

If de Villiers, Amla and du Plessis go out early, South African batting will go down like a pack of cards.

If Cook, Root and Bell go out early, England's batting will go down like a pack of cards.

If Sangakkara and Matthews go out early, Sri Lankan batting will go down like a pack of cards.

If Azhar, Misbah and Younis go out early, batting will go down like a pack of cards.

If Williamson goes out early, New Zealand's batting will go down like a pack of cards.

If Gayle and Chanderpaul go out early, West Indies' batting will go down like a pack of cards.

All teams are reliant on 2-3 players, Australia isn't an exception.

LOL .. Arent Aussies supposed to be an ace test team 😉 , so they should have atleast a better middle & lower order which can get them to a respectable score.if top order fails . Another problem is all 3 of their reliable batsmans are at 1,2,3 so if two fail their tail automatically starts with no one really providing any significant contribution later on.

& most of ur assesement is wrong .. Shafiq & Sarfaraz at 6 and 7 have done better than PAK's top order in recent times. U saw what Stokes did against NZ at Lords and what Moeen is doing in this series. NZ is dependend on Kane ? 😆 , it is Watling who has been the unsung hero with the bat since the last one and a half year not to mention Latham's form.

Originally posted by: Sharif.Badmaash

LOL .. Arent Aussies supposed to be an ace test team 😉 , so they should have atleast a better middle & lower order which can get them to a respectable score.if top order fails . Another problem is all 3 of their reliable batsmans are at 1,2,3 so if two fail their tail automatically starts with no one really providing any significant contribution later on.

& most of ur assesement is wrong .. Shafiq & Sarfaraz at 6 and 7 have done better than PAK's top order in recent times. U saw what Stokes did against NZ at Lords and what Moeen is doing in this series. NZ is dependend on Kane ? 😆 , it is Watling who has been the unsung hero with the bat since the last one and a half year not to mention Latham's form.

New Zealand and Pakistan are slightly different cases as most of their players have similar batting ability. However they have been reliant on their best batsman - namely Williamson and Younis.

Stokes averages 36... One or two innings here and there doesn't make him a reliant middle order batsman. Watling was out of form last year and hardly played any noticeable innings other than his 124... What form is Latham in? He averages 31 this year. He has done little apart from that 84.

No team has a middle order even remotely as strong as their top 3 batsman. South Africa are the best team in the world and their middle order is nothing to be proud about. A country can be a good test team with 3-4 world class batsman and 4 others that do well only occasionally.

Batting records of the middle orders of all the teams from 2014 (South Africa's record is boosted by de Villiers batting at #5):


https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=7;batting_positionmin1=4;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;filter=advanced;groupby=team;orderby=batting_average;spanmin1=15+Mar+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Congrats to Eng! Played wonderfully as a team, esp. Finn, Anderson, Bell, Root, Ali. Although I'm wondering how Lyth keep getting so many chances. Is he usually a good/reliable player for Eng to persist with him?

I want Eng to win the series but want Aus to win the next match so the last match actually serves a purpose.

How is it that Aus batted so well in the last game but not this one? I mean I know the pitches are different but such a huge difference? If Starc could get a 50 ...I'm surprised the top and middle order players couldn't get going.

Originally posted by: HippoSucks

New Zealand and Pakistan are slightly different cases as most of their players have similar batting ability. However they have been reliant on their best batsman - namely Williamson and Younis.

Stokes averages 36... One or two innings here and there doesn't make him a reliant middle order batsman. Watling was out of form last year and hardly played any noticeable innings other than his 124... What form is Latham in? He averages 31 this year. He has done little apart from that 84.

No team has a middle order even remotely as strong as their top 3 batsman. South Africa are the best team in the world and their middle order is nothing to be proud about. A country can be a good test team with 3-4 world class batsman and 4 others that do well only occasionally.

Batting records of the middle orders of all the teams from 2014 (South Africa's record is boosted by de Villiers batting at #5):


https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=7;batting_positionmin1=4;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;filter=advanced;groupby=team;orderby=batting_average;spanmin1=15+Mar+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

LOL .. those 4 tests of Aus at home against a mediocre Indian bowling helped their record otherwise they were owned by a 36 year old darter in UAE earlier.

and im quite sure no other team would be all out in 18 overs overs once their top 3 went in 2 😆