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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -priyanka-

Couldn't stop myself from commenting. Very interesting articles. I agree with the writer - to a very large extent the "drama" which we witness today in serials consisting of murders, rape, EMA, culprits facing very less punishments, female leads being tortured for long and them being mahaan and perfect with everyone around them making mistakes, divorces happening for small issues, multiple marriages etc., most started with the ekta kapoor serials. I absolutely hated how she portrayed female leads as devi, making no mistakes and the negative characters as ppl obsessed with the destruction of the leads for no reason.
Priyanka I think if one serial is success once they copy and make clones of that serial as they feel that is what the audience likes forgetting that the formula does not always work and the more torture the female lead undergoes with only God to save her then the more successful the serial is and they usualy make the male leads dumb or mamma,s boys or lover boys very rarely with good roles.Its a totally women oriented shows.


The trp system came at the same time i think. The content worsened day by day. But now a new trend has started whereby the negatives are being immortalised and given more screen space and women are shown weak with no self respect. The audience are also to be blamed. They accept any stuff shown in the name of entertainment.Rapes, EMA,domestic violence etc., are issues which should be treated with sensitivity but are being dramatised in the worst possible ways. Two of the colors shows have most of the above mentioned happening. The majority of the viewers are women. Why accept such disgusting stuff in the name of entertainment? Even reality shows these days have resorted to cheap gimmicks and they are accepted. Serials which start with strong messages are also forced to follow this trend for want of trps in the long run or are forced shut. Rarely do good soaps get accepted. Why is there no censor board for serials like films? Tv serials badly need one IMO. The TRP system is here to stay. So one can only hope the audience change for the better and demand quality entertainment.


In fact like they said in the article the advts and promoters also want this I now some cases where they also interfere with the content.😕

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JustShanta

pseudo liberals , see these soaps as inconsequential..
all entertainment ! ...
a huge, can of worms..putrid !
kudos to the writers !
much thanks to you , Chalhovji


Shantaji usually many such people and professionals do not watch serials and if once a while they watch something it puts them off. Sometimes rarely they protest against certain tracks and put them off but very rarely.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks for sharing the article chalhov.

Ab hum kyaa bolen ! Its good to know people are writing in newspapers what we have been ranting here for so long.

Hopefully things do change ... it is going on for years ... . DD was the only channel earlier and had the monopoly. I remember reading articles where it was mentioned that producer used to stand in line all-the time with suitcases to get to Mandi-House (the DD office). Yes, that was bad! People wanted to break the monopoly and asked for privatization. Like every coin having 2 sides, the entertainment media took a downturn when multiple channels came into the picture and the TRP systems was the deciding factor. This cannot go on for years ... change is a must, change will happen ... need more such people to rant everywhere!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Excellent articles, Chalhov, just what we have been saying on the Forum.

Actually, I also remember the old serials of Hum Log, Udaan, yeh jo hai Zindagi, Dekh bhai dekh. They were just meaningful or fun-loving serials, no tension, nothing.

I truly feel in todays age, it has become necessary to have a Census Board for TV, to pass all serials in the interest of developing Indian society. Abuse of the female sex is continuing in cities like Delhi, not to mention rural India. These type of serials only add to the brainwashing that anything can be done to a woman without repurcussions from any human. Only God comes and saves these women from whatever catastrophe they are currently in!!!

Read all your posts, and some serials I didn't know about too, but what Gardes said about Saathiya is totally true. Wanna just slap that girl and get some sense into her. All these protagonists are so other-worldly, they come directly from 18th Century to the world of Indian TV serials!

Only serial I've seen different is Sasural Genda Phool - so far at least. Seems to be a balance of humor, issues facing family, relationships, etc. Even when they talk about abuse (a rape) at least its treated with some respect and not morbidly shown. The family also deals with it with respect.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5

Thanks for sharing the article chalhov.

Ab hum kyaa bolen ! Its good to know people are writing in newspapers what we have been ranting here for so long.

Hopefully things do change ... it is going on for years ... . DD was the only channel earlier and had the monopoly. I remember reading articles where it was mentioned that producer used to stand in line all-the time with suitcases to get to Mandi-House (the DD office). Yes, that was bad! People wanted to break the monopoly and asked for privatization. Like every coin having 2 sides, the entertainment media took a downturn when multiple channels came into the picture and the TRP systems was the deciding factor. This cannot go on for years ... change is a must, change will happen ... need more such people to rant everywhere!



U r welcome Bee5 and seeing u on the forum on rare occasions.All the deterioration started with the privatization and when there were very few regulatory organisations to stop this muck being fed to the viewers and this sort of articles r very rare .I thought since lot of discussions went on these lines during some of the story tracks it would be of interest.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Bholabear thanks for ur views on lines with the articles.Doorsdarhan always kept control on what content it showed so we still remember all those serials.😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Interesting article and posts...really its a pity to see such things being shown in the 21st century...our shows seems to be getting regressive by the day whereas during DD days the shows were really progressive....as for the women not putting their foot down I have no idea where they get the trps for these shows but women back home are so busy in trying to meet their ends and last thing they have in their mind is finding some time from their hectic schedule to watch such shows.....shame on the people who call the shots and write such scripts just to make quick money...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bholabear

Excellent articles, Chalhov, just what we have been saying on the Forum.

Actually, I also remember the old serials of Hum Log, Udaan, yeh jo hai Zindagi, Dekh bhai dekh. They were just meaningful or fun-loving serials, no tension, nothing.

I truly feel in todays age, it has become necessary to have a Census Board for TV, to pass all serials in the interest of developing Indian society. Abuse of the female sex is continuing in cities like Delhi, not to mention rural India. These type of serials only add to the brainwashing that anything can be done to a woman without repurcussions from any human. Only God comes and saves these women from whatever catastrophe they are currently in!!!

Read all your posts, and some serials I didn't know about too, but what Gardes said about Saathiya is totally true. Wanna just slap that girl and get some sense into her. All these protagonists are so other-worldly, they come directly from 18th Century to the world of Indian TV serials!

Only serial I've seen different is Sasural Genda Phool - so far at least. Seems to be a balance of humor, issues facing family, relationships, etc. Even when they talk about abuse (a rape) at least its treated with some respect and not morbidly shown. The family also deals with it with respect.



Bhola Bear...I would like to know and educate myself here on this post that from where and how you gathered all this information written about DELHI!!!!!?? Would you please give us all the evidence/links that in Delhi these female sexual exploitation is on the rise?? And then you also go on adding that in rural areas as well....ARE YOU SUGGESTING DELHI COMES IN BEING a rural area??? Clarify yourself and elaborate on your statement if you may please??😲😲

Now in the second highlighted line do you in your little knowledge think and truly believe that slapping a person solves everything and you win your argument and no harm is done???
😕😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Chalhov,
Didn't have the chance to respond to this thread. I don't know the serial the article is talking about, but I can believe that none of the serials are neither serious in showing any problems nor want to offer any solutions. When a serial talks about being women oriientated, it is just to show the torture the lead would go through. The whole point of the torture shown in any story is to increase the ratings. Look at Radhika's treatment. They showed Radhika being obligated as she was adopted. In two years, she was tortured to the extreme degree by the adopted family and yet in the end is shown to look so grateful that a criminal woman has finally accepted her.
I agree with the second part too. I too scoffed at Hindi soaps. Yet, got sucked into them all the while thinking that they would show protogonist becoming stronger as the show continue and finally getting justice. It never happened. That's why I am not able to get into any new shows. Also, the stories are so repetitive that it is not exciting especially when one knows that the show would get spoiled in the middle anyway.
I too miss the old Doordarshan serials where the episodes were limited, stories were usually taken from written literature and hence had a proper start, middle and ending.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

Chalhov,

Didn't have the chance to respond to this thread. I don't know the serial the article is talking about, but I can believe that none of the serials are neither serious in showing any problems nor want to offer any solutions. When a serial talks about being women orientated, it is just to show the torture the lead would go through. The whole point of the torture shown in any story is to increase the ratings. Look at Radhika's treatment. They showed Radhika being obligated as she was adopted. In two years, she was tortured to the extreme degree by the adopted family and yet in the end is shown to look so grateful that a criminal woman has finally accepted her.

Why3 that true the more the torture they show on the leads the more appears to be the TPPs according to PH and channels and also when u see the TRP charts some of the shows r exactly that.Why the torture is shows and the villians r also mostly women😕 Even I did not like the acceptance of amma at all and then we have seen how she changes from bad to worse.
I agree with the second part too. I too scoffed at Hindi soaps. Yet, got sucked into them all the while thinking that they would show protogonist becoming stronger as the show continue and finally getting justice. It never happened. That's why I am not able to get into any new shows. Also, the stories are so repetitive that it is not exciting especially when one knows that the show would get spoiled in the middle anyway.

Yes usually some shows start good the the story lines become repetative then the story tracks r also spoilt. so do not feel like watching but sometimes it becomes a habit and u stick to the end.Me started watching with CB after a long long time.If we read the newspapers and watch TV daily we find stories of abuse and dowry deaths but this seems to be a different type of abuse.
I too miss the old Doordarshan serials where the episodes were limited, stories were usually taken from written literature and hence had a proper start, middle and ending.

Yes and Doordarshan used to have very strict standards and serials were good and worth remembering but I have not watched any recently so dont know what they r showing now after privatisation of TV and agree with u regarding the story lines.

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