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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: why3

Misti,

I thought I knew my mahabharat. But, didn't know that Shantanu had brothers. Only knew that he always made poor judgments - first with Ganga letting her kill all his seven sons (at least stopped her before she could kill the eight son - Devvrat or Bhism) and then with Satyavati for whom his son had to give up his rights and hence starting the origination of the great war. So, Shantanu always lost his judgment when he saw a beautiful woman.
Here, Chikna is pretty focused on his revenge thing. I guess they will show that Pataka is going to thwart his plans. But, he seems to be after RP title as that goes with the whole prestige and money thing. Dev is rich and influential because of being RP (even though don't see much of the influence as he seems to get punished by every small panchayat and mahant for no fault of his).
Now Bhrigu Samhita kind of has thrown me. As Usha mentioned, it has to do with past, present and future (actually if you have all the pages, it tells you about your past births). Has Chikna told Radhika some family history and Radhika is checking that or is it related to Waaris? Well, curious minds want to know. Or will it be khoda pahad and nikli chuyiha.

In Mahabharat Shantanus marriage and meeting with Ganga were all preordained.........its true that Bheeshma or Devdutt was the 8th son who got saved and the first seven were killed by Ganga herself.......All 8 were the 8 vasus the immortal sons of Manu who wanted to help the daughter of a rishi (forgot his name) to become immortal......the only way possible was for her to drink the milk of the Holy cow Nandini who belonged to Rishi Vashishtha......the 8 Vasus were caught and were cursed by the rishi that each will have to spend one life on earth. So they begged Ganga for help and asked her to kill them as soon as they were born........Ganga relented but said that the last one will not be killed and will live to complete his life on earth.......the last one was Bheeshma.......as for her meeting Shantanu that was also decided before Shantanus birth......and thats another story.....
Shantanu did loose his head over Satyavati but it was Bheeshma who saw his fathers dejected condition and promised that he will not marry and not have sex, plus will leave the throne......Shantanu and satyavati had two sons.......one died before Santanus death and the other who was married to Amba and ambalika dies afterwards......since Bheeshma could not marry them and the future king had to be descendents of Satyavati........Vyasa was called in who was also Satyavatis child from a previous relationship..........Amba gave birth to Dhritarashtra and Ambalika to Pandu.
So Angie these creatives might be making a kichri of Mahabharat and Ramayan......with Dev/Ram, Radhika/Sit, Chikna/Ravan..........and again.........Shantanu the middle son........with either Shantanu or Dev not of pure birth/adopted...........maybe Shantanu.....because they know Devs birth details to have a janam kundali and Vaishali was obsessed about this issue. So if Shantanus past comes out that will be an insult to the Purohits.......or there may be something to do with Devs birth............Vaishali is the mother but father is someone else.......a skeleton that maybe only dadima, vaishali and Sr. Purohit knows..........the creatives killed off the senior purohit pretty early but have kept Vaishali........that means she is important to the story. Maybe using the Samhita book, using Devs birth details Radhika has now realised the truth.......maybe she does not know about Shantanus link to the Purohits but she might know now about Devs birth.
As for the Sabha....they might end up bringing the posistve version of Vishaka who will herself free Dev and hence Radhika then does not have to do anything regarding Shanatnu.......😆😆😆........as I have said Chikna is the carrot....and there are loads of red herrings being thrown out by the creatives.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: shanta47

Mistyji i see u await the updater'scomplete translation

then you giveyour dazzling ' ishtyle'
you're so thoughtful
thanks abunch........

You are welcome shanta..........my write up is not an update.......its a mixture of review and commentary . The updatersare doing a fabulous job and hats off to them for their dedication. If I post my write up before their update is up then that means I am disrespecting their hard work, which I will not do. So thats why I wait for them to finish and then post my writeup.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#23
Thanks misti, with this post you gave us more insight to mahabharat and Shantanu. I had forgotten all this, we had learned as child and later on watched the TV serial. I have the DVDs, should watch them 😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73

In Mahabharat Shantanus marriage and meeting with Ganga were all preordained.........its true that Bheeshma or Devdutt was the 8th son who got saved and the first seven were killed by Ganga herself.......All 8 were the 8 vasus the immortal sons of Manu who wanted to help the daughter of a rishi (forgot his name) to become immortal......the only way possible was for her to drink the milk of the Holy cow Nandini who belonged to Rishi Vashishtha......the 8 Vasus were caught and were cursed by the rishi that each will have to spend one life on earth. So they begged Ganga for help and asked her to kill them as soon as they were born........Ganga relented but said that the last one will not be killed and will live to complete his life on earth.......the last one was Bheeshma.......as for her meeting Shantanu that was also decided before Shantanus birth......and thats another story.....
Shantanu did loose his head over Satyavati but it was Bheeshma who saw his fathers dejected condition and promised that he will not marry and not have sex, plus will leave the throne......Shantanu and satyavati had two sons.......one died before Santanus death and the other who was married to Amba and ambalika dies afterwards......since Bheeshma could not marry them and the future king had to be descendents of Satyavati........Vyasa was called in who was also Satyavatis child from a previous relationship..........Amba gave birth to Dhritarashtra and Ambalika to Pandu.
So Angie these creatives might be making a kichri of Mahabharat and Ramayan......with Dev/Ram, Radhika/Sit, Chikna/Ravan..........and again.........Shantanu the middle son........with either Shantanu or Dev not of pure birth/adopted...........maybe Shantanu.....because they know Devs birth details to have a janam kundali and Vaishali was obsessed about this issue. So if Shantanus past comes out that will be an insult to the Purohits.......or there may be something to do with Devs birth............Vaishali is the mother but father is someone else.......a skeleton that maybe only dadima, vaishali and Sr. Purohit knows..........the creatives killed off the senior purohit pretty early but have kept Vaishali........that means she is important to the story. Maybe using the Samhita book, using Devs birth details Radhika has now realised the truth.......maybe she does not know about Shantanus link to the Purohits but she might know now about Devs birth.
As for the Sabha....they might end up bringing the posistve version of Vishaka who will herself free Dev and hence Radhika then does not have to do anything regarding Shanatnu.......😆😆😆........as I have said Chikna is the carrot....and there are loads of red herrings being thrown out by the creatives.

I know that vashus were all cursed with Devvvrat's sin was the biggest and hence he was saved. Also, he had father fixation because most probably Ganga deprived him of his father for first few years of his life. That's why he was willing to give up everything for his father's happiness.
I thought about the Varnasankar issue but in regards to Radhika. I thought since Chikna knows many secrets (maybe courtesy Mrin), he would be the one to disclose to Dev that his mother didn't want Radhika to be his wife because of varnasankar issue, hence driving wedge between the son and mother for his own revenge. But, it makes sense that he was probably rejected for being a half breed (sorry for the crude word). Dev to me is a pure blood because that makes him great that he wanted to marry Radhika. Since, Radhika herself is an orphan, I always thought that chikna would be shown to have some sort of affinity with her.
I agree that they are doing kichri of everything. Chikna is Karna who is rejected by the royal family for not being royal enough and hence is deprived of the rights even though he is elder to Dev, the true blue-blood prince. Then, Dev is also Ram from whom Raavan takes his Sita. Anyway, at least for today, Radhika looked like a Mrs. RP and Chikna more of a complex character. I think probably Vishaka will not be shown to be crazily mad about Dev anymore because they can show that she realized that Amma is the one who sent Vikram to jail and Vikram is no good. So, again they can make her sweet and syrupy. So, she may be there to vouch for Dev and hence free Radhika from her obligations to Chikna.
Well, lets' see next week how they proceed. Hopefully, the mystery turns out to be intelligent and not haphazard. I found today's episode to be promising, but then who knows with these writers.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sigrid

Thanks misti, with this post you gave us more insight to mahabharat and Shantanu. I had forgotten all this, we had learned as child and later on watched the TV serial. I have the DVDs, should watch them 😉

You are welcome.😉
I hope the creatives are doing that.........watching Mahabharat....then atleast we might get something close to logic from them but who knows they might even blotch that up😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I know that vashus were all cursed with Devvvrat's sin was the biggest and hence he was saved. Also, he had father fixation because most probably Ganga deprived him of his father for first few years of his life. That's why he was willing to give up everything for his father's happiness.
I thought about the Varnasankar issue but in regards to Radhika. I thought since Chikna knows many secrets (maybe courtesy Mrin), he would be the one to disclose to Dev that his mother didn't want Radhika to be his wife because of varnasankar issue, hence driving wedge between the son and mother for his own revenge. But, it makes sense that he was probably rejected for being a half breed (sorry for the crude word). Dev to me is a pure blood because that makes him great that he wanted to marry Radhika. Since, Radhika herself is an orphan, I always thought that chikna would be shown to have some sort of affinity with her.
I agree that they are doing kichri of everything. Chikna is Karna who is rejected by the royal family for not being royal enough and hence is deprived of the rights even though he is elder to Dev, the true blue-blood prince. Then, Dev is also Ram from whom Raavan takes his Sita. Anyway, at least for today, Radhika looked like a Mrs. RP and Chikna more of a complex character. I think probably Vishaka will not be shown to be crazily mad about Dev anymore because they can show that she realized that Amma is the one who sent Vikram to jail and Vikram is no good. So, again they can make her sweet and syrupy. So, she may be there to vouch for Dev and hence free Radhika from her obligations to Chikna.
Well, lets' see next week how they proceed. Hopefully, the mystery turns out to be intelligent and not haphazard. I found today's episode to be promising, but then who knows with these writers.
I don't think Dev is great because he wanted to marry an orphan..........for me he is human being first who does not pay much attention to a person birth or social status......its the person that matters to him..........and that is because he has loads of self confidence.
As for Visaka they are playing with the script to include her in the story until her contract is over. So all these silent gestures might actually amount to nothing.😉
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajsri

😆 😆 😆 Loved the write up ... I am glad I watch the episode before I read any updates ... otherwise, the only thing that would have been on my mind would have been chikna smacking his lips

Enjoyed the episode ... liked Rads a lot today (except for the fact that she is taking this lone warrior thing too seriously)... she looked very dignified and composed. Don't know what chikna expects her to do ... am not going to spend much time speculating abt it though. Hopefully it wont be something inane where they leave loose threads hanging like the daksh episodes

Cute few seconds of raDev moments ...

Chikna still looks like a bad guy to me. A light bulb seemed to go off near Dev's head ... hope he thinks about and wonders what pataka promised the devil.

Sorry, Misti ... no chachoo ... he is away planning and pilfering for his future. As the episode ended, I was thinking of the song you wrote for him 😭 ... hope he shows up next week.


I can't help it as soon as I see Chikna this is followed by this sentence that he is smacking his lips 😉.........as for chikna and Pataka...........I am sure that the creatives will conjure up some rabbits from their magical hats............and then we all will have a what the heck moment.......well if Devs bulb is lighted then he will ask Radhika as part of his patni dharma.......Radhika will tell him..........then he might find some logical way..........then how can Vishaka come in? ..........then how can the creatives keep the viewers on tenterhooks during the weekend thinking about all the mime show, what Radika was asked? 😉...........they have to use their gimmicks....😆
I think chachoo got offended because he got quoted him in Vrindavan Times.CryCryCry ...........and he was not asked whether he wants to be quoted or not.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gardes

Funny post, Mishti. I was so looking forward to reading your post today, working from home and feeling more relaxed and you did not disappoint!

I am off IF and CB for a few days so my rantings will cease for a couple of weeks! Hope things are improved by the time I am back (see, my brain is having a hard time accepting the change for the worse in the story!)!
Happy foruming!

Glad that you liked my mutterings. ..........CB improved in what way Gardes? I mean improved for us or improved in TRPs.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73


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You are welcome.😉


I hope the creatives aredoing that.........watching Mahabharat....then atleast we might get something close to logic from them but who knows they might even blotch that up😉



I really want them to show us promising track. they have such good actors, good characters.........they need to do it rite. Use their brains. I want them to make Radhika and dev's character strong and not to degrade them................to glorify Vishaka or Shantanu's characters.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sigrid



I really want them to show us promising track. they have such good actors, good characters.........they need to do it rite. Use their brains. I want them to make Radhika and dev's character strong and not to degrade them................to glorify Vishaka or Shantanu's characters.

Sigrid thats what they have done for the last week or so........introduce this stupid baby track where the people are believing amma over Dev!..........No court of law will do that....in any court of law a person character is also taken into account and here amma is better than Dev?!! Completely idotic thinking on part of the creatives............then if they keep Radhika strong then Shantanu will not have any hold on her...........earlier she literally used to rule over Purab........but yesterday she was whinning in front of him!........earlier she marched upto Vikram in the middle of the night.........yesterday she was a headless chicken!.........it would have been much better if they had shown Radhika herself standing upto Purab and Vikram.........using her RP power......letting in the purohits and Mrinu and chachoo helping her to save their own skin........that would have been logical........then after the sabha finished.........people would have realised that amma is fibbing......so remove her for some time......let out the secret that Vikram was sent to jail by amma..........then let Vishaka again comeback to go after amma and Mrinalini..........in the meantime keep shantanu as a friend.........hide the fact that he is after RP title for some revenge..........let chachoo realise that.......but instead they decided to either bring down Radhika/Dev/Shastriji.dadima..........so that shantanu and Vishaka can become big.
well its their story and lets see how they deal with it.
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