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Posted: 14 years ago
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The curse of insecurity ...

Wondering why this heading? Well somehow to me it represents all three boys belonging to the Purohit family...

Virath- Who throws a tantrum at the earliest opportunity as a means to attract attention. Probably having a self-absorbed mother like Maheshwaryi and a very weak father, he learnt very early in life that if he does not shout and scream then he will not get anthing in this family. Also has a short fuse and gets offended very easily because thinks that people are not respecting him. His mother has taught him that respect is his birthright and not something that has to be earned. His mother has built his life on a dream, the foundations of which does not exist...the dream of becoming an RP. Today his dreams came crashing down and he lashed out threatening to kill anyone who stands in his way...Maheshwari was shocked (because she will also be in his hitlist) but if one plays with fire then chances are that one will be singed. She has built and fanned this fire in him and once that breaks out, all hell will break loose.

Rohan-Also throws a hissy fit to gain importance. Is very insecure and also manipulative...he knows that people do what he wants them to do. Is emotionally immature and that's why is ready to do drama to get his way...Is very possessive and thinks possessing something is equal to being in love. He will make his wife's life a living hell, because possessiveness combined with insecurity will give birth to irrational jealousy. His insecurity is coming from having an insecure and weak mother and no other strong positive influence in his life. The grandfather did his best when both Virath and Rohan used to throw tantrums but he was not always around. Nobody was there to teach him that one does not give ones responsibility to others...in fact when he used to do that as a kid people used to brush his behaviour aside and no one corrected him. He knows what his mother's position is in the house and probably plays with people to get what he wants becuase he knows that his mother is not that strong to get them for him. His mother is not blind to his faults and she has herself said that he is immature but she is scared of losing him and so lets him get his way...maybe she thinks that she will lose him to Maheshwari. Today she is saying yes to the marriage even after believing in all those signs and upshaguns just because her son wants to get married knowing how unstable he is...I am leaving aside Radhika here but did she once think whether marriage and its responsibility will push all her sons buttons. I am also leaving aside the lies that Dev said because that is separate from her beliefs. If tomorrow something happens...whom will she blame? Dev, again? Maheshwari for saying yes to the marriage or herself that she did not stand up for her beliefs...Rohan is only happy with letting Dev do his stuff so long it does not clash with his wants(Angie borrowing your sentence here)...although he did say how can this marriage happen if Radhika loves Dev but he did create a scene to make everyone do as he wants...but he does have it in him to swing the other way and become complex character.

Dev-What do I say regarding him...his insecurity and misplaced sense of duty is making him blind and he is committing one mistake after another. He knows how insecure Rohan is...knows how emotionaly unstable and possessive he his and thinks that Rohan understands love? He is ready to do anything for his duty towards the grandfather even forget his own judgement...but can we really expect him to be a strong and secure person?...he never had unconditional love while growing up...he has been fed on sacrificing for Rohan and looking after Rohan since he was a child...he is so insecure that sometimes I feel whether he thinks that he as a person exists independent of the family ...I don't think he has any sense of individual identity...his identity is linked in a very convoluted and destructive way with this family who will suck everything out of him. Whenever he has tried to indirectly ask permission to stake his own claim his head has been patted that he should sacrifice...and today he also lost his self respect...In the beginning he was resisting saying anything but the go manipulated by Maheshwari and her drama regarding dadaji way (her way of pushing his buttons and reminding him of the promise) ...then got manipulated by Rohans suicide drama and Rohan also told him indirectly that he is weak while Dev is strong...so again he was reminded of his duty that has now become a part of him. To me the tears in his eyes and the unspoken grief in them are my saving graces regarding Dev...his guilt is alive and he is sorry.

Now coming to Radhika...She listened to everything but did not promise Dev anything...infact said that fine if that's what you want...I will fight for my dharma and you fight for your duty...(both doing for family, both want to protect their family)...and she left...Thanks creative for giving this dialogue toi her...wanted to hear it from her. Radhika is a person who will bend but will not break...her self belief and faith are so strong that she will pull through times of need. But does Dev have that?

Today the episode was good but the most poignant scene for me was when Radhika comes running and very happily rushes telling him that she knew he will come and the everything will be ok...she is pretty good at reading people but this time in her relief she did not realise the utter silence and the stone like appearance of Dev's...but she was brought down to earth...the drama build up is good hopefully the audience will also be treated to a good emotional closure...

So no commentary from me today...I have been thinking of doing a character analysis of the three brothers for a long time and today when saw that all three were there, thought about doing it.


Today Dev reminded me of a poem by Emily Bronte

The Night is Darkening Around Me

The night is darkening round me,
The wild winds coldly blow ;
But a tyrant spell has bound me,
And I cannot, cannot go.

The giant trees are bending
Their bare boughs weighed with snow ;
The storm is fast descending,
And yet I cannot go.

Clouds beyond clouds above me,
Wastes beyond wastes below ;
But nothing drear can move me :
I will not, cannot go.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Misti, Not sure if I have anything additional to add to your analysis. Very good analysis.
I was oscillating between feeling sympathy for that Dev who has nobody in his corner and has never developed an individual identity and anger at him for doing the same to Radhika (manipulating her and abusing her). Yes, he had no proper direction since Dadaji became paralyzed. Even today, Rohan came to Dev to help him but only after being assured that Dev is not harming his life. Rohan is very much like Devki of CB1. He has mild affection for Dev and since he is the only one to even give Dev that much, Dev craves it and succumbs to his manipulations. He had no intention of killing himself. He only wanted Dev to deny the truth that is quite apparent.
Maheswari pushed Dev's buttons regarding Dadaji and since Dadaji is helpless and can't counter Maheswari, Dev fell for it.
But then his harshness towards Radhika. He doesn't deserve her and his actions are making sure that he loses her. But even in his loss, Radhika loses as she is attached to him. He had a thoughtful look when Rohan mentioned that his DG loved him so much that she came to this house. He used that to blackmail Radhika about keeping quiet and she was silenced because she doesn't want to lose him emotionally either.
The deserving punishment for him is that when Radhika becomes his wife (Kanha's leela or Radhika's actions or combination or other factors), he also loses her emotionally until he comes out of his insecurities, realizes his abuse of Radhika and makes up for it. It should happen because actions cause consequences and he is making so many mistakes.
I really wanted them to show Dev feeling guilt for doing this to Radhika. He talked about Radhika being selfish and doing things for the family. Radhika's character is not vindictive and that's why she did not ask him that if he was rejecting her, then how is his family her family and how are his duties obligate her to sacrifice her principles? I really hope they show Dev realizing this one day. They never showed it in CB1 and am not sure they would do it here either. It leaves a lot of unsatisfied feelings from a viewer's point of view when they don't resolve these issues. If chunnu munnu are smart, they would show a proper confrontation scene between Dev and Radhika when Radhika reaches her limit with Dev. She should be reaching her limit one day because she is a human being and that too a very young girl. So it is not realistic that she can take this abuse from Dev and not ever react (I have to call it abuse and I can not think of any other word for his behavior today).
But he retained his sympathy because of the last scene where he looked at her with eyes full of unshed tears and grief on his face. He knew that he had been unjust to Radhika, but felt helpless at that time.
Finally, Radhika to me is the one who is coming across as a very admiring character here. She got devastated at Dev's words but she controlled herself and gathered her internal strength. Then she quietly told him that she would follow her beliefs and he can pursue his duty. Then she was the one who walked away from him unlike other times when he had done that to her. Now her leaving her fate in Kanha's hands is very realistic as when a human being loses all the support, they turn to their faith as the last resort. This is what she has done.
Misti: Very apt poem by Emily Bronte to reflect Dev's mental state. Like it a lot.
Edited by why3 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very nice poem Misti expressing the Dev,s helplessness because of family obligations...Loved the poem...Viraat reaction was expected , may be he will be the reason for his own mother,s downfall...For years she was feeding him with idea of becoming RP then at the last moment if he hears the truth , expected to react like this keeping in mind his nature...Now mohini. will also show her true color if she also comes to know this secret...Rohan ,s behavior is childish who knows how to get what he wants ..He is possessive this trait changes in to jealousy, can make Dev Radhika,s life hell... .But i found him having grey shade ...depends on the Creatives they can how they turn his character...There are stories about two heroes and one heroine , in our hindi movies, not talking about villain, from long time back ...yes viraat can be visualized in Pran ,s place...I can understand Dev,s obligations towards family he has been brought up in...Here Dev is orphan

.In real World also , are the guys who are pressurized in to give up the girl because of parents suicidal threat or emotional blackmailing...So can not blame Dev , succumbing to the family obligations...I liked Radhika , her happiness ,expectations , the way she comes to meet Dev and again trying but Dev,s expressions , loved the whole scene ...Do not understand how people say Rubina has Stony Expressions ...she is excellent expressing her feelings ...Misti you have written every thing ..for me last scene was poignant when you look at Dev, or at Radhika,...Both are tied with their own beliefs...

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Misti ... 👏 👏 ... for your thoughts ... very apt descriptions of the basic character traits of all three ... beautiful and very appropriate poem for Dev

Lot of things to talk about but I will touch on what i loved most abt today's episode

- loved the last line that Rads had to say to Dev ... that she will follow her dharm and he can do his duty ...have been waiting for rads to get here ... her running behind him though cute was reckless ... and finally she possibly understood one of the reasons for him not wanting to accept the marriage had less to do with believing in the actual marriage - he is so duty bound that he is blindly ignoring everything else - she still does not know about his insecurities - that should give her the whole picture - she is in love with her KK ... but her KK died with dadaji's accident ... she really does not know this dev

- Also liked the entire radev scene ... very confrontational ... i think the creatives are making up for lack of these at the appropriate times in CB1 😆

- Regarding Dev's characterization ... I really like the way they are showing him here ... will get chappals here, but thought dev's dialogues to rads were very appropriate for his character ... he is so bent on his own sense of duty that everything else seems selfish ... a person who knew rads would understand that her actions stem from fear and her sense of right and wrong ... he is a product of how he was raised in that house after dadaji's fall ... the old kk is suppressed

- rohan's character emerged clearly for me today ... he appears to be a good guy and loves dev but if things dont go his way, he gets ugly and uses extreme emotional blackmail to get what he wants ... in spite of thinking that dev and rads may be in love, rohan goes on a suicide mission ... if he had truly loved dev he would have stepped back ... but this is their relationship and this is how dev has grown up - he thinks rohan loves him a lot and thinks that rohan's possessive love for rads is "true love"

All in all very good episode ... have to say though that i am missing watching spunky, cute Rads ... as much as I dont like her going after Dev repeatedly and would prefer her to quietly walk away, i love the mischevious playful look Rubina sports when she goes after Dev ... Also like Dev's forlorn, part Devdas, part terrified look ... he looks like the weight of the world is on his shoulder ... and is scared that rads is going to making him do what his heart wants but brain refuses to acknowledge

btw ... is daima a villian in this show also???? what did she mean by ratting out dev in that fashion?? 😡

As far as slaps go, I hope Rads gets back at her KK when he comes running back to her ... i am sure she can think of much more innovative ways to get back at him than slapping 😉 but i do hope they have a long track on that ... she should not readily and easily forgive him and is entitled to be angry at him

Also, good set up to the maha episode ... hope they dont disappoint


Edited by rajsri - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Musti - Deep and great thoughts of Dev, Rohan & Viraat. Love the appropriate poem by EB. Dev's emotions and turmoils are evident in his eyes and face. Guilt & remorse will eat him alive!

Rohan in love with Radhika, is so over the top.. he hardly knows her. He's a coward and self centered.. there's no way he was going to cut himself or kill himself. Only his ego took a beating! He better watch his back. The only way Rohan will be out of RaDevs' way is Viraat's way... He will kill him. Like mother, like son.

Viraat thinks everyone is beneath him and he's almighty.. his grace 😉 will be disgraced 😭 when he ends up in jail.

Padma is quick to point her finger at Dev and amma didn't utter a word in his defense.

Now that Raldhika set foot in that house, senior Purohit's 'quivering' lip is a sign of his quick recovery.

With the wedding taking place tomorrow, curious as to how Radhika will enter Purohit house as Rohan's wife, when the wedding won't take place. Maybe, since nobody will be able to witness the wedding, and very conveniently, on the last phere, fire breaks out, preventing their marriage and Rohan is badly injured, most probably causing memory loss, thus giving Radhika a chance to be in the Purohit house, as Rohan's wife. Only Dev and Radhika knowing the truth. Radhika will not reveal the truth because of Dev and his emotional blackmail...


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Misti i was also talking of the amnesia because of fire and already mentioned this is ZEE ,s favorite after fire... very easily Radhika will enter the house as per CD,s post ...Only Dev and Radhika will be knowing the truth about Marriage...It is going in Radhika,s way s she will be near to Dev...In fact i am waiting for the first Promo to appear by hook by crook...RP has seen Radhika,s face when she was touching his feet and today he was thinking about Radhika to be Dev,s DG about whom Dev talked to him...If radhika enters as Rohan ,s wife, would not he recognize her...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very nice analysis of three characters who in their own way are trapped in the fears of insecurities.

One is a completely selfish guy, Virat...who knows nothing than himself...not even his mother. His anger would not see even his mother...if she comes in his way of power then she too would be sided by him brutally!

About Rohan.. Dunno if he is grayish or totally negative (because of today's extreme obsessive show for Rads)!! Obviously he wasnt going to kill himself...he is a spoilt brat who had got everything in his life whatever he wished for...and now Rads is the "thing" he is obsessed for and wants her at any cost!! For a few moments when everyone thought that Dev and Rads love each other...he couldnt contain his anger and threatened to kill himself -- he either wants to possess her or kill himself! 🤢

However, when Dev said the lie, he was the one to apologize promptly citing his anger to have blinded him! So the guy is selfish... he obviously wants Dev's happiness but that shouldnt cross his happiness...if it does, he will choose himself over Dev!! Somewhat like Vishaka...not that selfish but yes, the colors are there.

And third, Dev...the selfless guy who only thinks about others over himself always!! As u said, he craves for love because he has never been given any. The family whom he thinks as his own and is ready to sacrifice so much for them, blame him at the drop of a hat!! But he still thinks that in return for their kindness of adopting him, he has to sacrifice himself for them!! Rohan's kind friendship is what he asks for...because Rohan is the only guy who understands or is a little more nicer towards him in this pagalkhana! He was the only guy to say sorry when the entire PF had misunderstood Dev!! So obviously Dev would sacrifice for this guy's happiness...and his own happiness? Probably he never thinks about that!

Radhika was his happiness and causing her pain...would have caused him even more pain and that resulted in to tears of grief in his eyes when she ran from the ghat...his helplessness because despite loving her so much he cannot accept her...cannot respect and give in to her repeated pleads, howmuchever if he yearned to do so! 😭

Didnt like Padma's attitude at all. Her lividness and snapping him shut was wierd! I mean just think lady...this guy has done so much for ur son and now ur blaming him!! Also today, she didnt apologize just sighed because her son's happiness was intact!! 😡

Dadajee was smart😊...the moment Dev said about the girl, he thinks in his mind that the girl who had come to take my blessings is Dev's lover! Any specific reason for showing that??

Hmm...so now Dadajee knows who is Dev's lover...so doesnt he know Radhika? I mean has he never been shown Rohan's fiance...the family's CB's pic?? If they'd...wouldnt he be shocked to learn that Dev is lying outright for Rohan!!!?😲 Seems he hasnt been shown the pic!😕

So he knows who is Dev's lover...will it play any role??

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajsri

Misti ... 👏 👏 ... for your thoughts ... very apt descriptions of the basic character traits of all three ... beautiful and very appropriate poem for Dev
Thanks...
Lot of things to talk about but I will touch on what i loved most abt today's episode

- loved the last line that Rads had to say to Dev ... that she will follow her dharm and he can do his duty ...have been waiting for rads to get here ... her running behind him though cute was reckless ... and finally she possibly understood one of the reasons for him not wanting to accept the marriage had less to do with believing in the actual marriage - he is so duty bound that he is blindly ignoring everything else - she still does not know about his insecurities - that should give her the whole picture - she is in love with her KK ... but her KK died with dadaji's accident ... she really does not know this dev


I also wanted Rads to say that sentence because that indicates realization of the real issue here...and why they are on different pages...she has to interact with the family and see how they treat him to understand Dev more and then the picture should be clear to her.Ys her KK dies long time back...he is hidden here and it will take time for that KK to emerge.

- Also liked the entire radev scene ... very confrontational ... i think the creatives are making up for lack of these at the appropriate times in CB1 😆
😆😆😆...all research Rajsri...😉😆

- Regarding Dev's characterization ... I really like the way they are showing him here ... will get chappals here, but thought dev's dialogues to rads were very appropriate for his character ... he is so bent on his own sense of duty that everything else seems selfish ... a person who knew rads would understand that her actions stem from fear and her sense of right and wrong ... he is a product of how he was raised in that house after dadaji's fall ... the old kk is suppressed
so you mean all my efforts were in vain.😉

- rohan's character emerged clearly for me today ... he appears to be a good guy and loves dev but if things dont go his way, he gets ugly and uses extreme emotional blackmail to get what he wants ... in spite of thinking that dev and rads may be in love, rohan goes on a suicide mission ... if he had truly loved dev he would have stepped back ... but this is their relationship and this is how dev has grown up - he thinks rohan loves him a lot and thinks that rohan's possessive love for rads is "true love"
Yes...he is happy for Dev to have things so long it does not get in his way.

All in all very good episode ... have to say though that i am missing watching spunky, cute Rads ... as much as I dont like her going after Dev repeatedly and would prefer her to quietly walk away, i love the mischevious playful look Rubina sports when she goes after Dev ... Also like Dev's forlorn, part Devdas, part terrified look ... he looks like the weight of the world is on his shoulder ... and is scared that rads is going to making him do what his heart wants but brain refuses to acknowledge
Oh I love both their looks when that happens..she with a very determined expression and Dev doesn't know what to do...I will be missing those scenes.

btw ... is daima a villian in this show also???? what did she mean by ratting out dev in that fashion?? 😡
You know I won't mind her being the bad guy here too...because even now when I see her around Radhika or Dev I get a feeling that she will set fire to them . I know that I shouldn't but thats my initial response to amma.

As far as slaps go, I hope Rads gets back at her KK when he comes running back to her ... i am sure she can think of much more innovative ways to get back at him than slapping 😉 but i do hope they have a long track on that ... she should not readily and easily forgive him and is entitled to be angry at him
There you go.....😆

Also, good set up to the maha episode ... hope they dont disappoint
yes...


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Posted: 14 years ago
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very good analysis and u know i feel also sorry for dev he is right acc to him
and at last what u said,let me give my views here,she may be so happy (bcoz i read only update today ,didn't see)by seeing actually waiting for him that she started her talks without listening and giing attention to his feelings
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Originally posted by: neerjashingla

Misti i was also talking of the amnesia because of fire and already mentioned this is ZEE ,s favorite after fire... very easily Radhika will enter the house as per CD,s post ...Only Dev and Radhika will be knowing the truth about Marriage...It is going in Radhika,s way s she will be near to Dev...In fact i am waiting for the first Promo to appear by hook by crook...RP has seen Radhika,s face when she was touching his feet and today he was thinking about Radhika to be Dev,s DG about whom Dev talked to him...If radhika enters as Rohan ,s wife, would not he recognize her...



NJS - Even if Dadaji recognizes her, he can't talk so he won't be able to tell anybody. He'll accept her and love her as Dev's DG when she takes care of him.. while tending to him, she might babble to him and make him her confidant, as she will be lonely there with nobody to care about her. Dadiji will be happy, knowing that she is the actual Choti Bahu.

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