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Posted: 14 years ago
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god if as why 3 states happens---- dev marring chanda then
that story is going in the wrong direction hope that is not so
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Posted: 14 years ago
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thanks very nice to watch
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tazzi

Thanks for the link...........

Tell me which Indian television shows have logic to them including reality shows. American soap operas have no logic whatsoever.
Ekta Kapoor shows have no logic to them but because of her strong star power she is able to pull crowds in through marketing, doing public appearances. Same circular storyline.........
Even American Famous TV shows do not have logic......otherwise would not been call fiction. For instance...American comedy series Friends.......all these actors in the show lived in expensive Manhattan apartments yet how were they able to afford it......like wise their clothing also.....but people love it including me. I know I am comparing apples and oranges here, but also remember two products are not always the same. Main problem with creatives are same as before....disorganization, false marketing or not enough marketing, not enough support from DJs. Sort of "slide by attitude" since Avinash & Rubina are in it will draw in crowds so lets not pay attention to it. Story is getting better from before after our feedbacks.....My hope is hopefully they will continue to improve more without our feedback..........


Taazi, I agree with you on the logic about American shows. But can't compare the daytime soaps with prime time. I too liked the first few years of Friends but then it became boring. It was not logical as it showed people with small salaries living in big apartments in Manhattan. But the difference is in execution. It had sharp dialogues and characterization was pretty consistent.

CB is not a daytime show, but a primetime show. I have no problem with fiction as long as the execution is good and script is tight. After all, we see fantasies, mysteries, comedies etc that are not real. But there is something likeable about them.

CB1 was also a fantasy. But the script was logical and explained the situations very well. Also, the characters were constant and here I am only talking about the first year.

CB2 didn't start very well. But became better from the second episode until the leap. Afterwards, the whole PF changed and shrewd characters suddenly acted dumb without any reason.

In my opinion, the story was better in the beginning but is getting worse where the leads are dumbed down to the extreme where their actions are turning them into unlikeable characters.

As far as Avinash and Rubina are concerned, they will draw the initial crowd but will not be able to expand the audience as the new audience would want to see a proper story. They act well but if the script is lousy, how long can good acting run that show? If all audience are interested in seeing are dream songs or something similar, they might as well participate in music videos.

The problem with the show is that the production house (and I mean Diya Singh by it) are not serious about the show and only care how much money this show can generate for them in next 5-6 months. They do not care about the audience because if they did, the story won't be so convoluted.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

CD, thanks. I was getting that hunch by watching yesterday's precap that was repeated today. Then Avinash's interview mentioned it. Today's episode increased that likelihood of doing something like that unless the ratings go down and they change the track again.

They advertised it such for the existing fans who would have complained about it. But then their love for short-term TRPs came in the way and suddenly everything seems to have changed. Remember they got really good TRPs in the first 2 weeks but then they ruined the ratings by making PF all pagals (as Misti calls it) and must have thought in their peabrains to change the track that could bring quick TRPs. So why not rectangle since the traingle worked so well in CB1. Here we can have two triangles around Dev and Radhika and hence this rectangle thing they are working with.
The problem with the execution and story is that it makes it really hard to like Dev and Radhika and root for their love. In CB1, everyone had tremendous sympathy for both as Dev got cheated by all the Shastri women and Radhika was helpless. Her truth was delayed but there was a logic in it and so Radhika for the most part generated a lot of sympathy for her plight. Even though they remained separate, you could understand their spiritual relationship.
Here it is hard to see that when both are made puppets and dumb for no reason. So they are imposing CB1's scenarios on CB2 even though both are different shows with different circumstances. This senseless imposition is ruining the story as well as the characters.
Even by taking this show in an episodic manner, it is hard to watch the entire show. I end up fast forwarding a lot of it everyday and this is just the second month of the show. It happened with CB1 in the second year for me.

Angie the bold one is exact my feelings and thats why i am not able to connect a wee bit to Radev..their characterization (if ther is any) looks superficial, artificial love conjured up from thin air as n when chnage in script demands it (thr is no love so far i see btw RaDev- its likeDev fancy and Rads sudden change of feelings just coz she thinks Dev is her KK)....I dont know is it just i am not liking these track/execution/chnages or they are really not going good way😕 Iagree to each point of yours and dont think i am ready for all the marriage rasams accidently/divinely done btn radev just to show audience abt the kanha factor or not ready for any Bride/Groom swaps...its frustrating to see it going for the similar circles or triangles or any shape...i hate CVs/DJs or whoever is responsible for making me dislike CB..i tried but not able to get the grip.......
Yes we know eventually finally Radev will be the one marrying but the road to that seems bit illogical/tried/tested/deceived/half baked to me...how long Cvs can carry with dumbing each n every sane charcater and expect viewers to dumb down alongwith........
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I agree with you that Avina will draw in initial crowd, but after that they need good script. That has been proven by bollywood stars. I agree that Deeya has no interest in CB. Can't compare two shows because both of them are different. Both my mom and I are enjoying thus far. I understand that at times they had weak script. But they're improving......one has to give credit to Zee. I am not saying that CB is flawless. Now tell me which primetime show in Indian television is logical. "all of sudden long lost twin brother shows up, woman attempting to burn mother in law, uncles/aunts abusing niece. As far as daydreaming goes.....well you have to see the situation and the character. This is how he expresses himself. Many Indian dramas have that. Lately even hindi movies have daydreaming songs. This is cliche......for years bollywood was known for that. Over the years we have been enjoying that daydreaming scenes. As far as Radhika's character......she was instantly attracted to Dev and then when she came to realize that she is married, hence she is shown feeling extremely guilty of having that feeling. A child is told that she is married and for 12 years she has been waiting for her husband. As grown she would feel guilty that she is attracted to someone else.

As you said you had stopped watching Friends, I have also stopped watching shows that did not interest me anymore.
This is just my opinion. I have attempted to see other Zee shows non of them have given that satisfaction as CB. This is because of Avinash and Rubina's act. This new storyline is allowing them to explore their own talents further. Both of them have changed their style of acting, I am sure you have noticed that. This is just my opinion. One thing surprise me was Mansaram's line his excitement about addressing Radhika's KK and his absence for 12 yrs and reappears of diary. Well everybody was yearning for another CB......now we got it. Lets wait and see..........& hope for the best.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tazzi

I agree with you that Avina will draw in initial crowd, but after that they need good script. That has been proven by bollywood stars. I agree that Deeya has no interest in CB. Can't compare two shows because both of them are different. Both my mom and I are enjoying thus far. I understand that at times they had weak script. But they're improving......one has to give credit to Zee. I am not saying that CB is flawless. Now tell me which primetime show in Indian television is logical. "all of sudden long lost twin brother shows up, woman attempting to burn mother in law, uncles/aunts abusing niece. As far as daydreaming goes.....well you have to see the situation and the character. This is how he expresses himself. Many Indian dramas have that. Lately even hindi movies have daydreaming songs. This is cliche......for years bollywood was known for that. Over the years we have been enjoying that daydreaming scenes. As far as Radhika's character......she was instantly attracted to Dev and then when she came to realize that she is married, hence she is shown feeling extremely guilty of having that feeling. A child is told that she is married and for 12 years she has been waiting for her husband. As grown she would feel guilty that she is attracted to someone else.

As you said you had stopped watching Friends, I have also stopped watching shows that did not interest me anymore.
This is just my opinion. I have attempted to see other Zee shows non of them have given that satisfaction as CB. This is because of Avinash and Rubina's act. This new storyline is allowing them to explore their own talents further. Both of them have changed their style of acting, I am sure you have noticed that. This is just my opinion. One thing surprise me was Mansaram's line his excitement about addressing Radhika's KK and his absence for 12 yrs and reappears of diary. Well everybody was yearning for another CB......now we got it. Lets wait and see..........& hope for the best.

Tazzi, I don't watch other Hindi soaps as I don't like them and find them extremely illogical. I do know the story of many soaps by browsing through the forum. I can only watch a show - English or HIndi if I can get into the story and the one that has good screenplay, good actors etc. I agree that a lot of American soaps are illogical. But then they have limited audience too. I for one do not watch those shows and have quit prime time shows when they dragged too much or story becomes unpalatable.

As far as Zee is concerned, I don't find any of their new shows exciting and the old ones have left the logic somewhere way behind. I am sure it is the case with other channels too. But the question is are they bad to begin with or are those shows taking their audience for granted and not making an effort to improve the story?

I don't have problem with day-dreaming sequences. In fact, Dev and Radhika's dream song was the only thing I liked from the holi episode. I was just making a point that these dream sequences won't be able to sustain the show for long if the story is so illogical, situations are artificial such as some characters living in one house not knowing the name of other person or having a curiosity to know names, no story for side characters except to revolve around lead characters. On top of that, the story going in a direction that makes lead characters unlikeable would not hold audience interest.

I too like Avinash and Rubina and their acting. But I started liking them after watching CB1 where the story and execution was gripping in the initial part to start liking the characters played by these two. That's why I watch CB2 despite disliking the whole Abhay track and the way creatives ruined CB1. Since I liked the characters of Dev and Radhika so much (from the first year of CB1), I am watching this show despite not liking the story and the way they have changed the track mid-course, and seem to be going towards those old formulas of mistaken identities and switching of brides and grooms.

That strong liking is the reason why fans were able to bring back this show despite the apathy of production house and the channel. But in order to attract new audience or to even get that initial audience who made CB #1 two years ago, the show has to have a consistent characterization and a story that may be moving slow but is gripping.

As far as the other successful shows are concerned, they are good at least in the beginning and start having a fan base that slowly makes them successful. Here, the story is so bad from the beginning itself that it is losing its already existing fan base rather than expanding it. If that keeps on happening, then the show can not go too long based on just a selected set of audience who likes the characters of Dev and Radhika.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Just reading about a new show on some channel , at the same time with Avika gaur who is quite popular.....One thing i liked about the PH of that show that CB2 is considered a threat , that's good ....CB 2 is also a new show with already popular leads , it depends on PH to take this as a challenge and pay attention to script and story contents and execution...Now in Hindi movies family dramas have disappeared....As taazi was talking about the indian soaps , they have taken the place of 70,s 80,s Hindi family movies, where all the masala was shown in three hours ....But in soaps it takes years to show the good , bad and ugly characters....Three hours were ok but this years going on torture is making many people wary of hindi soaps....Problem here is addiction
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thank you, Why3 for saving me the trouble of writing fm my bb. My thoughts replicated exactly.

Thanks Viprakshi and Chalhov for the link.

I hv only 1 question - does a marriage have to be only about bride/groom swap? Why not a straight-forward celebration of a loving couple? Let the CVS answer that, if they dare!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks Viprakshi for the information. Sorry Chalhov, I couldn't view this link. Do you have YouTube link of this segment?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bholabear

Thank you, Why3 for saving me the trouble of writing fm my bb. My thoughts replicated exactly.

Thanks Viprakshi and Chalhov for the link.

I hv only 1 question - does a marriage have to be only about bride/groom swap? Why not a straight-forward celebration of a loving couple? Let the CVS answer that, if they dare!

Bholabear, thanks. Exactly. In CB1, it made sense as Amma would have never allowed Radhika to marry Dev and Radhika would have given in to her blackmail. So it was in some sense made sense.
Here Radhika wants to be with KK and so does Dev with Radhika. So a straight forward story would be that Radhika mistakenly gets engaged to Rohan thinking that he is KK. But since feels a connection to Dev has to choose between her childhood beliefs and Dev. On the other hand, Dev loves her but backs out because he thinks that maybe Rohan is best for Radhika. Then if they want to justify the spiritual relationship, show that Radhika decides to choose Dev as that spiritual connection is more important to her than any ritualistic marriage or something.
Why would Kanha go through such devious means to get both of them married to each other when the families wouldn't have a problem either. Dev is a servant and so nobody cares whom he marries. Radhika is a poor girl who is supported by her father. So she can stand up for her rights too.
Show a simple linear story and audience would be hooked to it as we all root for strong, intelligent characters. The wishy washy characters irritate audience and that is what is happening with the serial. In a spiritual relationship, a marriage with deception for no reason has no meaning especially if it brings down the characters of main leads.

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