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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ok today no commentary but some thoughts…… Much better episode compared to what we have been shown before…….I will come to the leads later but first Mansarams family……..

Finally Mansaram and Chenu both pushed back and argued in favour of Radhika knowing the truth. This was what Shanti was worried about. Mansaram can be overwhelmed by his own weakness but there is a limit upto which he will keep quiet…..he will push back if someone crosses the limit…..and today he charged at Shanti for not revealing the truth and for wanting to continue with the charade. Chenu also did his part first he showed to Chanda that the prince is meant for Radhika and that Radhika is getting all this and not her and also told his mother point blank not to take Radhika for a fool and to lead her on a wild goose chase. Shanti being a good manipulator knows her family quite well …..she is wary of the father-son duo and also off Radhika…….and she knows that if Radhika knew about all this she will stop anything from happening and tells this to her family. Shanti actually does not care for Chanda's opinion….her shut up to Chanda took care of that…….Then when they all see Radhika standing and listening to all this……..the father runs and asks for apology and says that the choice was taken away from him. The badi bahu did not give him any chance and he is helpless. Shanti is still continuing on manipulation that the father has done so much for Radhika……..she has done so much for Radhika…….I mean tolerated her and so Radhika should also do something in return to pay them back.. Good that Shanti clearly told that we have done this and now it is your turn to repay us back…….the emotional blackmail was the fathers role in bringing up Radhika. Ok creatives I have asked this before and asking again here why did the father have to bring up Radhika? Shanti has a very big caste reverse snobbery in her……..so why will Mansaram go against his wife and bring a baby? What was the compulsion in him to do so? I know Shanti had once said that Radhika was left on the door step….did Mansaram know Radhikas birth family? Or is it just humanity from him towards a baby for which he is ready to stand up to the entire world. Either way please make it clear……….otherwise the audience might have this question. Also Shanti did speak some harsh truths that how long can they wait on the basis of some accidental marriage in childhood and what will happen to Radhika when they are not there………..she is a practical woman and dealing with the practicalities of life. …..one one hand she is saying what to many is the harsh truth but on the other hand she is also not averse in using it to better her position in society.

Performance wise Adiya Lakhia, the lady who plays Shanti and the actor who plays Chenu………the husband wife combination was very good……….on the whole good drama among Mansarams family members.

Now coming to Radhika……..she was completely distraught that the family has lied to her………and I liked it that they did not show her screaming but kept her in her character and let silence and her expressions do the job. When Shanti charged at her that it is now her turn to repay back what the family has done for her…….she kept on muttering that how can she do that, I mean marry again? She does want to help this family that she considers her own but she cannot go against her faith to do that…..Ok creatives when the father apologises to her…….Radhika says no no and nods her head……….Comon creatives she has been let down by the person whom she trusts the most…….her father. I know that the father does have his own reasons but Radhika just says no no to her father and nothing else? Creatives you have good chance of a father-daughter drama here……….both the actors have good chemistry and can deliver so use them……..that part was rushed for me……Also Radhika was so happy that finally her mother is loving her…..and now she has been brought down to earth………….can we have something from her on that account…..that she thought that finally the mother is loving her…….she is getting something that she has yearned from childhood…..and now she realizes that it was just a mirage.

As for Rubinas performace……..liked it. Good work Rubina…….Keep it up.

Now coming to Dev…….liked Dev shock and mute pain when he realizes that Radika is the girl for whom the proposal came….he was completely dejected and also liked him in the car. But ………..I know I will get chappals from the forum here, did not like him shouting in the cliff scene…….at one point I thought that he might start beating his chest. Avinash can do much better than this (talking of the cliff scene only)…….he has shown that before. IAnyway liked his resolve regarding fighting for what he wants….he might not be successful because of his own insecurities and because Radhika is not ready…but I liked him thinking about it. Creatives please don't stop here regarding Dev's pain..his dream has been shattered and just showing 10 minutes of his reaction does not justify what he is going through……….stretch it a bit more……..give him some monologues in front of the statue of his dream girl……..let the complexities in Dev come out…..let him be normal in front of others but when alone let the pain out.

Also Liked Rohan and Padma conversation………Rohan is looking for ways out and Padma is ready to listen to him……..but then badi bahu forces him to say yes by crying………wonder what padma will do when she sees her son getting more and more flustered because of the incoming wedding…..

So there is a red clothes wearing love guru who gives sermons about Shiv-Parvati and Radha-Krishna.😉

By the way Chunnu munnu why am I having a feeling that I have come across majority of todays dialogues and scenarios somewhere? 😉

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Was waiting for your take on the todays episode. and agree with your views...I liked todays episode as its moving now in right direction..some progression....Loved radhika,s expression when she heard the conversation ,same was Dev ,s expression,no need to repeat they both are brilliant in expressing their pain with expressions, you can feel their pain.......Dev,s outburst on the hill was little bit filmy but some times when you can not talk to anybody, what you are going through then somehow you need some kind of outlet to release your pain....I like Shanti , she is practical about the situations...Today again she acted good and was right about the Radhika,s Marriage of childhood, if Radhika would have been her own daughter , even then her she would have acted this way ....yes would have discussed her reasoning with Radhika....Whatever she said , all was not wrong.... not easy to have an extra mouth to feed when you are poor....Interaction between Rohan and Padma is progressing in right direction about marriage....Emotional blackmailing of Maheshwari will turn the tables in her favor....Today atleast there was something to write about...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Misti,
Very good commentary. I saw today's episode. Will comment a little later on point by point analysis.
But at least they showed Radhika's hurt at Mansaram, but also wanted more and not a two minute apology. Felt like Radhika and Dev's conversation after Radhika confessed about the first wedding. Very incomplete. Why can't they put more emphasis on these emotional scenes. Haridwar scene was great because they dedicated two entire episodes between these two people.
Same with Dev. He emoted very well in Mansa's house and the car. I didn't like the echo and the shouting even though his expressions were very good and I liked his dialogues. The loss of his parents is important to him because he was always an outsider in PF and that came out through those dialogues. Radhika is the only remaining important thing in his life and it is again heart wrenching to give up her.
Liked the fighting part for Radhika. But should not be shown discouraged with Rohan's promise. This was an exact copy of Radhika and Dev scene in CB1. There Dev is extremely hurt when he sees Radhika at the temple and cuts his hand. Radhika came running down to tell the truth but backtracked when she heard Vishaka asking Dev to start fresh. So here too Dev knows that Rohan is only promising because of Maheswari and his heart is not in it. So Dev should think about both Rohan's and Radhika's mental state too.
That was one complaint I have. Dev knows that Radhika thinks the proposal is for Chanda. But there is no consideration so far about Radhika's feelings and her permission. Today he was in shock and so it was understandable. But once he calms down and decides to give up Radhika, he has to think whether she wants the marriage or not. There should be no forcing from his side just to fill his obligations. Her opinion matters as this is her life and she gets to decide on what she wants. So chunnu munnu, don't make Dev emotionally blackmail Radhika into accepting Rohan. Mansa is not doing that at this time and Dev shouldn't do it either.
forgot to mention that I liked Chenu's expressions of guilt and sadness. Like Mansa's family a lot and Shanti's arguments were valid too even if they were for her own selfish reasons. This mother comes across as real and relatable even if she is not likeable.
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Hope they move smoothly now without any hurry with the story.....This is my first try writing like this...if any mistakes then tell me
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Was shanthi Arguable?

i was actually going to open a topic......i'll post here...


Today i agree with Shanthi? Though she might be doing it for her selffish cause, she perhaps did a good decision for Radh, she was not thinking of doing any harm to Radh, she was actually think of Radh's well cause......every question she asked Mansa was true and unarguable....

Radh might have her sentiments, but Shanthi doesnt care for it.........as she doesnt believe in the childhood marriage of Radh and some unknown guy.
Even if it was Radh's real parents, even they would have done the same, maybe would have been more harsh on Radh with thier Decision.

But one thing i didnt like about her was her blackmailing thing!!!

Now Radh is in very tough situation, Now only Kahna help her..... I dont think if she could dare enough to battle it out with her mother or the situation she is in now to overcome this marriage!


Good to see Mansa back in action, atleast he demanded Shanthi for an answer and wanted Radh to know the truth....

Rohan-padma interaction was good, for the first time he seemed Padma's son.
The drama was fantastically good today.......and the mind blowing performances from everybody today.👏
But for me it was Dev who stood out high👏. what a performance, every bit of it.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: NiHa24

Was shanthi Arguable?

i was actually going to open a topic......i'll post here...


Today i agree with Shanthi? Though she might be doing it for her selffish cause, she perhaps did a good decision for Radh, she was not thinking of doing any harm to Radh, she was actually think of Radh's well cause......every question she asked Mansa was true and unarguable...
Radh might have her sentiments, but Shanthi doesnt care for it.........as she doesnt believe in the childhood marriage of Radh and some unknown guy.
Even if it was Radh's real parents, even they would have done the same, maybe would have been more harsh on Radh with thier Decision.
But one thing i didnt like about her was her blackmailing thing!!!


So Shanti is making you think regarding her actions..........thats good....She is a very real person and she has got layers. Thats why I like her characterisation.....if one removes the burning part then she is quiet believable. It was also interesting that she refers to her husband as Radhikas father but herself as the step mother. Her issues are the harsh truths of life..how long can they wait for the daughters marriage. Its not some liberal family based in a city but a poor conservative family living in a village where these things are followed. They are part of a community and they don't have the means to stand up against the society or community. Radhika has her beliefs but is it right that because of her belief the family has to face the societies questions. Radhika should not be expected to follow others beliefs but in the same way she should not expect others to follow hers. Yes Shantis manipulations and blackmailing were not right........and I also don't like that....now they should explain the position to Radhika and let her decide.

Now Radh is in very tough situation, Now only Kahna help her..... I dont think if she could dare enough to battle it out with her mother or the situation she is in now to overcome this marriage!
Well Kanha is with her.........he is inside her and part of her.She will have to use the strength from that Kanha and stand up if she wants to and fight if she wants to.......yes she might be ridiculed and she might also have to do it alone....but if thats what she believes him and if thats what the Kanha in her is telling her then she will have to do it.


Good to see Mansa back in action, atleast he demanded Shanthi for an answer and wanted Radh to know the truth....
Yes I was expecting that from him.....he has been shown as a person who might succumb for some time but then he will push back........so was happy that the creatives maintained that in him.

Rohan-padma interaction was good, for the first time he seemed Padma's son.
The drama was fantastically good today.......and the mind blowing performances from everybody today.👏
Yes Rohan behaved like Padmas son and the more he is pushed the more he will turn to Padma.
But for me it was Dev who stood out high👏. what a performance, every bit of it.
For me it was Rubina.....her 10 minutes on screen with her distraught expression was the scene stealer for me.😉😃


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Misti Di,
Good thoughts. Have enjoyed reading your commentary everyday. 😃 ...

Originally posted by: misti73

Ok creatives I have asked this before and asking again here why did the father have to bring up Radhika? Shanti has a very big caste reverse snobbery in her''..so why will Mansaram go against his wife and bring a baby? What was the compulsion in him to do so? I know Shanti had once said that Radhika was left on the door step'.did Mansaram know Radhikas birth family? Or is it just humanity from him towards a baby for which he is ready to stand up to the entire world. Either way please make it clear'''.otherwise the audience might have this question.
Yes please, CMs. Would like to know the reasoning behind Mansaram bringing up Radhika ... cannot understand this scenario. He knws what caste she is and is also providing her with good education by sending her to Gurukul whilst his real children, Chanda and Chenu are without any education so there is more to it. If so, please show it. Now is the right time and of interest.
Ok creatives when the father apologises to her''.Radhika says no no and nods her head'''.Comon creatives she has been let down by the person whom she trusts the most''.her father. I know that the father does have his own reasons but Radhika just says no no to her father and nothing else? Creatives you have good chance of a father-daughter drama here'''.both the actors have good chemistry and can deliver so use them''..that part was rushed for me'' As for Rubinas performace''..liked it. Good work Rubina''.Keep it up.
Now coming to Dev''.liked Dev shock and mute pain when he realizes that Radika is the girl for whom the proposal came'.he was completely dejected and also liked him in the car. But '''..I know I will get chappals from the forum here, did not like him shouting in the cliff scene''.at one point I thought that he might start beating his chest. Avinash can do much better than this (talking of the cliff scene only)''.he has shown that before. IAnyway liked his resolve regarding fighting for what he wants'.he might not be successful because of his own insecurities and because Radhika is not ready'but I liked him thinking about it. Creatives please don't stop here regarding Dev's pain..his dream has been shattered and just showing 10 minutes of his reaction does not justify what he is going through'''.stretch it a bit more''..give him some monologues in front of the statue of his dream girl''..let the complexities in Dev come out'..let him be normal in front of others but when alone let the pain out.
So the truth has hit both Dev and Radhika at th same time .... I was expecting more from Radhika's reaction. ok that the family lied to her, she knows her mothers nature but the father whom she had always trusted, loved and looked upto for support, was also involved by keeping quiet ... so was expecting a more emotional dialogue exchange between the father and daughter. For me, it was also rushed. But Rubina was good in the scene.
Liked Dev's questioning to Kanha regarding the loss in his life, first his parents and then the person whom he loves. Avinash was good with his expressions and also emoted well but agree about the screaming and shouting part. Well, he is very good in emotional scenes, especially when he has to show pain, hurt and anger ... one can feel what he going thru. Oh, it was heartbreaking to watch.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Misti interesting reading ur comments I liked the way the story moved forward . Dev knowing the truth is completely shattered and heartbroken. and having a dialogue with kanha on the lines of kyun Kanha Kyun and shouting from the cliff top and Pandit gyan was a little bit dramatic but after all this is a drama.Avinash was very good enacting this part.

Mansa and Chenu trying to prevail on Shanti to tell the truth and finally Radhika overhears the truth that she is getting married but not the complete truth on who is the bridegroom. Liked everyones acting in the Mansa household specially Rubina and the actors who play her mom and Dad. Her mom appears to be the most practical of the lot in her thinking but not in the modality of how to go about it.She tries to use different of emotional blackmails but Radhika is soft and firm.

Now I want to see how Dev and Radhika fight back their fate and what drama will take place now.
Edited by chalhov - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Misti,
Thanks for your thoughts and double thanks for coaxing, cajoling or convincing( whichever applicable) CM to give an emotional aspect of human feelings. It was a maiden effort on their part and by practise then can perfect the scenario. Anyway a good beginning with their attempts. I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised they took this route but i dont want to fail in appreciating when they have tried to give what we wanted to see.
The drama in the Mansa family was perfect, shanthi was at her best with her arguments and thought process. she has no hesitation in telling the harsh truths, to an extent she is not too much of a hypocrite maybe manipulative but the end she is practical when she thinks the overall welfare of her family. I also liked the fact that she forces Radhika to give her due to the family and it is payment time now. To deal with these kind of people even though they are evil is far better than the cunning ones of whom we have no clue and when they are likely to stab you from behind.
Y'day Avinash's acting gave me the impression that he acted to the requirements of the director, he is a natural and knows how to emote on his own and it is good if he is given a free hand to portray the emotions on his own. for me he was found wanting. sorry for offending some of you here.
Padma-Rohan interaction was very good. I liked the way she committed to her son that after meeting the girl if he is still unhappy she will ensure that it will get cancelled. I have been rooting for you Padma, way to go.👍🏼 support your son., you have my blessings.😉
Padma is a strong person with a mind of her own. e.g last week there was the PB gathering and the talk was about who should go with the shagun to Mansa's family when BB dismissed that it is a weaver family and it will not be nice for the PB member to go there. Padma was not very happy about it and she expressed her willingness to accompany Dev which was disapproved. Mohini went one step ahead and said that Mansa family can be stationed in dharmshala at the time of marriage and Padma was quick to put her in her place. Padma is respectful to BB and nothing wrong about it but she ensured that Mohini will not get the same right to sit on Padma's head and dictate terms. For me Padma is a strong person who at this point is positive too.
There are more things I want to say but let us see how this discussion goes and then I can come back later.

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