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Posted: 14 years ago
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Now as you mentioned its all coming back to mind......Yes i agree with you that time was the golden period of indian TV world as there was only DD....There were diverse subjects....Chankya was a very fiery soap without any frills same ws the case with Shayam Benegal,s Bharat ek Khoj which i think was based on Jawahar Lal Nehru, s Discovery of India....Again Tamas that was about partition with Bhishm Sahni and Govind Nihlani....I think that time programmes were more in to indian history and culture and were more progressive content wise where as today,s soaps are taking you back....There is no end to list...Why i myself is ignorant of contents related to religion and frankly speaking was never interested in religious discourses not even now ....CB got me interested in Radha Krishna tales and now i enjoy reading your discussions....i think that movie was Yateem by JP dutta.with Sujata Mehta.... she was in Srikant serial which was written by Sharat Chander ...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: neerjashingla

Now as you mentioned its all coming back to mind......Yes i agree with you that time was the golden period of indian TV world as there was only DD....There were diverse subjects....Chankya was a very fiery soap without any frills same ws the case with Shayam Benegal,s Bharat ek Khoj which i think was based on Jawahar Lal Nehru, s Discovery of India....Again Tamas that was about partition with Bhishm Sahni and Govind Nihlani....I think that time programmes were more in to indian history and culture and were more progressive content wise where as today,s soaps are taking you back....There is no end to list...Why i myself is ignorant of contents related to religion and frankly speaking was never interested in religious discourses not even now ....CB got me interested in Radha Krishna tales and now i enjoy reading your discussions....i think that movie was Yateem by JP dutta.with Sujata Mehta.... she was in Srikant serial which was written by Sharat Chander ...



Tamas was good.......I think it is still considered as one of the best serials shown on DD. Thanks Neerja for mentioning the name of the movie and that Sujata Mehta was the step mother.......she was Rajyalakshmi/Pyari in Srikanta. She is a good actress and was impressive as the complex but strong Rajyalakshmi/Pyari. This forum is a unique forum.......there is no doubt about that.😃.....and it is all because most of us at some point have been interested or are interested in CB.....it does not matter whether we share the same religeon or not..........or whether we are religeous or not........
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3


Actually, there was a movie too by JP Dutta starring Farah (Tabu's sister) and Sunny Deol that dealt with this issue. Sunny Deol was a son of dacoit who was brought up by a police inspector played by Kulbhusan Kharbanda. His daughter was Farah who falls for Sunny Deol's character while her stepmother also lusts after Sunny too as she is considerably younger than her husband. The person who played the stepmother was a good actress. Her role was the most interesting one and the movie was also very good.
Sunny Deol was an adopted son who respected Farha's father but was not able to really love him. It was a very good interaction of five characters - Sunny Deol's character (very complex), Farha's (simple, innocent yet strong person), stepmother (grey and sort of dissatisfied character), father (upright but somewhat weak at times) and finally Danny (totally selfish and evil character). Despite the whole Bollywood type fighting and melodrama , it was a good movie.


Angie if I am not mistaken this story is similar to Nirmala (Premchand)........similar with regards to a much younger second wife of an older man and the man having grown up sons who are almost of the same age as the young wife ................what repercussions it can have. It is a very poignant story with a very tragic end......I remember reading it and not able to put the book down.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73


Angie if I am not mistaken this story is similar to Nirmala (Premchand)........similar with regards to a much younger second wife of an older man and the man having grown up sons who are almost of the same age as the young wife ................what repercussions it can have. It is a very poignant story with a very tragic end......I remember reading it and not able to put the book down.

Thanks to Neerja for the movie name and the name of actress. As she mentioned, it was Yateem and everyone was good.
It was different from Nirmala which was tragic. In that Nirmala was engaged to a guy her age, but her engagement gets broken when her father dies and they are left penniless. The boy and his father were greedy and rejects Nirmala because of her inability to bring dowry. She was very unhappy with her older husband but found a friend in his older son. There, the relationship between stepmother and the son was very pure and was true friendship between two people who understood each other and were lonely. It was husband who because of his guilty conscience misunderstands and ends up destroying his entire family. Her previous fiance meets her later on in life and is repentent at his folly. I think he also falls for Nirmala.
In this movie, the father listens to his second wife a lot who is not happy with the older husband. She is having an affair with a corrupt police inspector (a junior of her husband) who is actually interested in marrying her step daughter Farah. But, she is also attracted to Sunny Deol who also joins police and tries to seduce him. When he refuses her advances, she pins a rape charge that her blind husband believes. Farha knows the truth about her step mother who is nasty to her behind her husband's back. So, she supports Sunny Deol whom she trusts and eventually run away with him. It was overall a good movie. I liked Sunny Deol and Sujata in that movie.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73



Angie I don't know whether he has a doctorate in sanskrit or not ..... have read somewhere that he was a medical doctor. It reminds me of Mohan Agashe..... a well known actor and theatre personality who is actually a psychiatrist and Sreeram Lagoo, another well known actor who is a surgeon by profession. Who says that science, art and literature does not mix well together? 😉

Can you tell me the name of the movie that you have described? I would like to watch it.....sounds interesting. It sounds like an interesting combination of good characterisation, screenplay and bollywood melodrama and massala. Chunnu Munnu I hope you are reading this and thinking that melodrama can be used in the right way and proportion.......I mean keeping CB2 in mind.

As for namesake, regarding characterisation I actually found both the movie and the book interesting. The book was written by Jhumpa Lahiri so it was from Gogols (the son) point of view, while the movie was made by Mira Nair, so it was from Gogols mothers point of view. I went to see the movie with a friend who is Australian and who has interest in Indian movies and culture. She saw the movie and her first comment was that why is the son so self centered.........I gave her the book to read and she came back to me saying that she is taking back her words because after reading the book she understood where the son was coming from. As for writing is concerned I personally don't find Namesake as one of Jhumpa Lahiris best books. Actually this is a good example of why POVs of the characters are needed to get a complete picture of the story..........CB2 needs that and hopefully the creatives will be able to deliver it this time.

I also don't think namesake was Jhumpa's best work. Some of the characters were too one dimensional. I found son not to be self centered but more detached in some sense as if he was confused. His relationship with his WASP girlfriend was more interesting to me than they showed in the movie. On the other hand, Nikhil's wife seemed more interesting character in the movie than she was in the book. She came out to be more self centered to me in the book and I found it hard to sympathize with her character. I remember reading a review in NY times about this book where they criticized the depiction of WASP family. But for me that part was good as they showed it from Gogol or Nikhil's POV.
Anyway, you are right about the differences between the book and the movie. Didn't think of it while watching the movie. I liked the movie because I sympathized with mother's character even when I was reading the book. Also, I liked Tabu's depiction in that movie.
But, Jhumpa seems to be a better writer of short stories than the long novel. Of course, I haven't read her last book which got good reviews. I think she wrote that book from the second generation of immigrant's POV.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Gardes, our Guruma, I cannot thank you enough for making this thread...I have been desperately looking to find the meaning of all these shloks.

Gardes, Challov, Why, Misti, Radev24 etc...(sorry couldn't get everyone's names in) you ladies are truly so knowledgeable and inspiring. Thank you all for your wonderful insight on the beautiful shloks and many other inspiring topics.

Is there anyway I can download these shlocks, especially the morning ones on my blackberry/iphone?

Once again thanks Gardes for creating this wonderful thread 😊 Look forward to your weekly updates😳



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Pranam Guruma! Awesome thread and Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to post. I loved the informative discussions that followed.
This CB forum indeed is a one of a kind. It is a treasure trove of knowledge and unique talents that members are eager to share with each other.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kinara2

u are welcome ...my dear.. i know about so many religion but not exactly the hiduism...this is one of my interest to know other religion ..but somehow no one exactly can explain to me what i really want to know... but you did.. thank you again...

Kinara, there are good books by great authors out there. Just a little bit of research is needed. Pm me if you need to know where or how to start.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

Gardes, I do feel superior about that fact that our society was very evolved. But, it also made us complacent and passive that resulted in others ruling us for a long time. The people living in caves had to look for other resources whereas our society had all the resources at their disposal. I guess that is a nature's way of balancing out things.
I haven't watched the entire serial, but I intend to do that one of these days. I like when the shows use sholaks in melodious voice, but don't make it preachy. "Discovery of India" or "Bharat - ek Khoj" serial also had beautiful verses from Vedas in their introduction in every episode. It was a translation in Hindi of some sholaks from Rigved. The serials from doordarshan used to be great. Wish they would make something like that now rather than running blindly for TRPs.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBbSbCczYeM&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

Same here, Why. I too hate preachy stuff but like to understand the beauty of a thought or how it is expressed through use of language!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: neerjashingla

Now as you mentioned its all coming back to mind......Yes i agree with you that time was the golden period of indian TV world as there was only DD....There were diverse subjects....Chankya was a very fiery soap without any frills same ws the case with Shayam Benegal,s Bharat ek Khoj which i think was based on Jawahar Lal Nehru, s Discovery of India....Again Tamas that was about partition with Bhishm Sahni and Govind Nihlani....I think that time programmes were more in to indian history and culture and were more progressive content wise where as today,s soaps are taking you back....There is no end to list...Why i myself is ignorant of contents related to religion and frankly speaking was never interested in religious discourses not even now ....CB got me interested in Radha Krishna tales and now i enjoy reading your discussions....i think that movie was Yateem by JP dutta.with Sujata Mehta.... she was in Srikant serial which was written by Sharat Chander ...

Thanks for posting Neerja.
The beauty of the forum is that people from all different faiths, viewpoints and talents have gathered in one place and made this forum buzz. I have learned so much in the past almost year and a half that I have been coming here. That is the reason, it is difficult to give it up in spite of time constraints...
People share so much in this place!

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