Today's Take - Showdown! - Page 5

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Jaya, I was not really very surprised at Umaben's sudden change ... for a woman like her, she is always right ... and by extension, her sons are always right! So the switch from Kaumudi is her best bahu to blaming her for the problem, didn't really surprise me too much. Though when she started speaking, I was like ... yes, she's saying what we all thought ... but then she switched almost immediately to - my son is a great son, brother and father, so how can he be a bad husband?
It's okay to say that there must be fault on both sides, but to say that the fault has to be with Kaumudi alone is wrong! Today I was quite happy with the panning to all the faces ... it did bring out the drama more effectively ... this was a shocker of a revelation and it was good they showed the reactions appropriately. Much more shocking than the first love marriage in the family ... Just hope TRP maata is happy too!!! 😉
Kaumudi was trying her best ... I think she has been brought up with that mindset that marriage for a woman consists of only duties, and she has to fulfil them all to be a good wife. And also that a woman has to put up with how her husband treats her ... many women are still brought up that way, that marriage is the be all and end all of their lives, and they have to nibhao it come what may. Their personal happiness and self-respect is very low down on the priority list. I really hope CC changes that mindset... if a woman cannot respect herself, then no one else will respect her. Yep, I'm also not sure about CC talking to Mayuri ... now that its clear Mayuri knows Mukut is married, then what is it going to achieve? Surely if Mayuri felt strongly enough about that, she would step out of the way herself, it wouldn't need anyone else to persuade her not to break up a marriage. Unless they are going to paint Mayuri as a typical vamp out for money ... I really hope they don't go that way, and make her just a lonely woman looking for some companionship ... who has swallowed Mukut's sob story of how his wife is all wrong for him. Manthan's reaction was very interesting ... he had this speculative look all right ... watching all the reactions closely. But then he usually does that ... I think the next track after this is going to be Manthan, and I'm looking forward to that one ... he is a far more slippery character than Mukut, who was a Chupa Rustom! Loved the hug at the end ... we need to send a message to the cv's that every episode has to have a two minute ChhanMan scene with some romance ... otherwise we get withdrawal symptoms!😳😆

Originally posted by: vanitha3d

Great analysis Diya You said it all . Loved the episode ...all three bahus supporting Kaumudi and the touch of ChanMan in the end. I dont know why Manav didn't reciprocate when CC puts her hand forward and says lagy bet ? Waiting for todays epi.

Originally posted by: ddFan2012

Awesome analysis Diya...very well said...

What an explosive episode...PH is definitely listening...today they delivered as promised...the right amount of melodrama, great dialogues, performances upto the mark...

It seems like the Borisagars are being hit by one storm after another. There was too much of calm earlier...CC effect I must say!

Similarly, Manav, Chhanchhan and the rest of the family have to accept that while Mukut chose the wrong way to deal with an unsatisfactory marriage, he had aspirations from his wife, which were not met. And rather than just blame him for everything, they need to figure out how Kaumudi as a wife can meet those expectations ... and also, how Mukut has to change himself and support her to change, rather than just blame her. Both have to change and meet halfway, not just one.

Absolutely agree...both partners first need to start communicating, being vocal about ones likes and dislikes to each other and a lot lot more.

I'd like to go back to Tuesday's episode and the Mukut-Manav convo. In flashback they showed Mukut approaching K to accompany him to a Sufi musical. K's answer was "I got to cook, R & S aren't here, Ba would have to do everything." She did not say, " I would love to come, can you speak to your mom about it, she won't agree if I ask her."

Now would R have given the same answer to Manek, had Manek been the one to ask her out? Definitely not. Ranjana would have applied all her tricks and found a way out to attend it. Atleast she would have tried her best.

So to some extent Kaumudi has allowed Ba and her husband to take advantage of her goodness and simplicity. Kamudi has not given priority to her wifely relationship.

Hey Diana good to have you back, love your awesome takes! 😃

I agree ... that was the scene that I felt that Kaumudi was also at fault for not prioritising her husband over family. She could see that Mukut was excited about the concert ... at least an acknowledgement that she wanted to go with him, but was stuck ... she didn't give him a reason to even ask UB for permission. Ranjana would definitely have tried to cajole UB or play some tricks to attend the show, and Chhanchhan would have probably asked UB straight out, with Manav present, so UB would have found it difficult to refuse! They did show that UB gave permission to RanSan to attend some family crisis when they asked her ...

Also the one where Kaumudi is reading to the kids and doesn't even get up when Mukut returns home was another scene where I felt Kaumudi at fault. I still get an earful from my mom if I don't get up to greet my husband when he comes back from office! So that one struck very close to home! 😆

My take on Ba and her blame game statement about Kaumudi. The fact that her husband reassured her that there was no fault in her upbringing considering Mukut never failed as a son, brother or father. Ba had every reason to blame Kaumudi. She has yet to realize she is responsible somewhere in choosing an incompatible partner for her sons. Arranged marriages are not wrong, but the couple getting to know each other a bit before marriage is very important.

From what they have shown about Mukut...like the time he accompanied Kaumudi to their village along with Manav on the wedding night. And the child asking for her father's help in doing her homework. Had Mukut never helped she would have complained that her father never did assist her. She would not have asked for him. Mukut's frustrations are directed exclusively towards Kaumudi and more so with Mayuri in his life he tends to compare.

Good point ... so Mukut is a good father after all. Agree, but then by the same logic, Kaumudi has been a good mother and an ideal bahu ... so why is she not a good wife? I don't disagree with Umaben saying Kaumudi shares the blame ... but if she insists that Mukut is blameless and Kaumudi is completely at fault, then I do disagree. If Mukut did not ever tell Kaumudi what bothered him, then Kaumudi was just quietly following Baa's orders, and not realising that Mukut wanted more from her. Umaben is the major domo of the house, Kaumudi can't go against her unless she has Mukut's support - the way Chhanchhan has Manav's complete support.

I hope they do show this side of the argument also ... not just Mukut reforming.

The 10 lac transfer seems like a down payment towards an apartment for Mayuri, which Kaumudi might have overheard. Maybe I am wrong...can't wait for tonight's episode.

Agree ... I think so too. That's probably what tips Kaumudi into leaving the house.

I also loved that the Borisagar family played dominance over CC in this episode. It was majorly their family problem, though CC spoke up when required.

Again agree ... I like that CC is not being mahaan bahu and taking over all the decision making, and that everything she says is in front of the family ... another show I recently started watching put me off for this very reason. And whatever she does, she does it with Manav's support and full knowledge.

And I hope PH does not close this track this week and jump onto something...and continues to give us amazing episodes like this one.

True!!! I hope the same thing ... want them to explore this slowly and in depth. They're doing very well as of now ... hope they continue

Originally posted by: ddFan2012

Hey @newbie...see what I feel is that CC is a newcomer in this home..she is involved but not overtaking the matter. It has got to be Kaumudi who should be accusing her husband, she has to raise her voice about it...and at the same time do some introspection over the matter and see what went wrong and why..Its a very private matter. No doubt family is involved. But behnd closed doors K has to raise her voice.

Now I do believe if not Mayuri, there would be someone else he would turn to. When you look at the woman he chose as a friend, she is an exact opposite of his wife.

Has he not strayed completely? They might not be explicit about it. But I believe he has. Its not a hand-holding friendship.

About Kaumudi taking him back. It has to be solely her choice. We have the children to think about like CC said. They are the ones who get damaged most in such situations.

Dont know what route the PH plans to take this track. But I would also like that it is handled with maturity, sensibility and that both a man and woman learn from it.

Originally posted by: -Swetz-

For the first time ever in a TV show I am seeing someone confessing things like this without making things up just to cover up the situation Mukut was honest and straight forward he isn't a lair he speak from his POV. I hope CVS keep this track from another week or 2 and not end it so soon would love to see how Chanchan and Manav handle the situation I think CC will help Kumuti out this will be another step of changing the rules Mukut himself will come back to the kids and Kumudi.

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Diya absolutely agree the root cause is UB...and it would be a rare case where an MIL would blame her son rather than the DIL. In the in-laws home, someone else has to take up for Kaumudi since her family is not around, either the SILs, Manav or CC. I would prefer that Manav speaks up in defence of Kaumudi as he more aware than CC of the sacrifices she has made for their family. She has been handling that household long before R & S came along. And Mukut is definitely not blameless, in fact he is to be blamed from the day he married K. Why did he agree to the marriage proposal? How come he has found his voice now? It's like he is finding every excuse to cover up his own faults.

I do feel K's parents are to be blamed for her very low self-esteem and how she has been brought up to think and behave at her in-laws home. Would love to see K's family involved in this matter, which may not happen as the PH would have to bring in new actors on board.

I have a classic case. Was watching CC along with my older daughter who is 22. She brought up the situation with her best friend whom I have known as well. Despite her friend being educated at an international school and university and a working girl, her parents are forcing down a marriage proposal and she hasn't even seen and met the guy who lives in another country. The girls' argument is that she would like to get to know the boy before marriage. And she won't marry until she knows him well. On the other hand the boy has already accepted her as his bride-to-be (Facepalm) Now all this discussion is happening sadly between friends and not family.

LOL I get remarks from my husband if found chatting online when he arrives from work. Men are like babies - they crave attention all the time. 😆

Originally posted by: .Mandy.

Great take Dia! I was shocked at how UB blamed her DIL as if her son could do no wrong, I have yet to see him be a good father but it is what it is. I'm not surprised he is ready to leave, he wants his freedom and it looks like he will get it based on the precap but did his wife really leave on her own or was this CC's doing?? I have to admit Mukut's reaction surprised me but I guess he expected his wife to continue being the dutiful bahu

Kaumudi disappointed me in her reaction yes she cried, she was hurt but I couldn't feel her pain. I couldn't connect with her character even though I should've. I loved the scene with the 4 DILs, being each other's support system - beautifully done!

CC and Manav's scene at the end was adorable, looking forward to how they handle this battle together its not just about changing Kaumudi and Mukut's thinking, its about UB too. I just hope CVs don't rush this track!

Originally posted by: suresh555

I would blame Uma completely for this disaster. She expected Kaumodi to be a 100 % sanskari bahu to the household and never gave her the opportunity to be a wife to Mukut. The scene when Mukut wanted his wife to go for concert while Kaumodi stayed back to cook for the family proves that. Uma controls everything about the bahus. I was not surprised when she had the nerve to partly blame Kaumodi for her son's mistakes and from her expressions it seemed like she knew in her heart that it was her own fault to totally hog Kaumodi's time leaving no time for her husband.

This family has different rules for men vs women and Uma falls into men category