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Posted: 12 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: archie_79



@ Red - I beg to differ on this point

I just want to say that when the male lead was kidnapped the ratings went down to 2.3 which improved the next week only due to the ILU promo & the sightings of him in between which sort of convinced the viewers that he is coming back.

When I told my TRP viewer mom after the ME in May that the actor is leaving for movie shoot, her immediate reply was then he is not coming back. This would have been the view of most TRP viewers who did not have access to the Online news & showing the male lead gave them the belief that he is there.

Also the writing & the villian carried it forward but not just the female lead, I was pissed off with the female lead esp. after she comes back from the almost Con seq.

I can speak for myself since I was so bugged with the female lead Investigating track that every day I used to catch the episodes hoping for the Male lead sighting & I was not a purely the Male actor fan then, I was a fan of the couple but that period made me realize what the absence of Male lead means in the previous show.

I used to support the posts urging members to watch the show for Sanaya's sake but was never eagerly waiting to the episode & never watched the 11 pm repeats which I had never missed from Feb & continued after the Male lead returned.


I am sorry to bring the previous show & the characters here but its in reply to the comment which I have quoted which mentions it


@ TM ' I agree with you that CC is a poorly executed show & its being carried by Supriya alone. They have to up the execution part immensely to be some sort of competition for DABH





Initially I thought not to reply to the senseless comment.But I am really annoyed of this kind of response. I agree that not just because of Sanaya , people watched her previous show in the absence of Male lead. But u cannot just ignore her effort completely crediting it to the ILU promo or to the villain.U didn't like her after the consummation scene ?What was her fault in that.I guess the script writer and director is responsible for that scene. In-fact that scene was aired to cover up the male leads absence. I didn't like that episode cause it was out of track, a filler episode to draw the attention of young people.U sounds like her previous show was a hit just because of a single male actor. If Sanaya took leave for two months just like the male it would have influenced the show negatively. The absence of either Sanaya and Barun would have the same effect on the show.The fact is that the male lead was superb, Sanaya's acting was amazing and the other cast was good too. In short It worked because of good direction, amazing actors , fabulous chemistry of leads and different script . ( I am sorry to bring the matter of previous show in this forum but I felt like replying to this comment )

I agree that CC should execute more effectively . But we watch it mainly because of Sanaya and no doubt Supriya pathak is a great actress her presence will surely contribute to the show. But I guess if Sanaya was not in this show half of the audience will not be there.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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TRP of the show last year:

Week 27 - (01 JULY 2012 To 7 JULY 2012) - Avg TRP 3.43 (The huge jump due to the return of the Male lead)

Week 26 - (23 JUNE 2012 To 29 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.72
Week 25 - (16 JUNE 2012 To 22 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50
Week 24 - (09 JUNE 2012 To 15 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.83
Week 23 - (02 JUNE 2012 To 08 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.81

Week 22 - (27 MAY 2012 To 02 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.79
Week 21 - (20 MAY 2012 To 26 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50 (ILU promo was in the mid of the week)
Week 20 - (13 MAY 2012 To 19 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.27 (the first week of Male lead's absence)

Source: TelevisionTRP.com


Never was the TRP of the show 3 + during the kidnapping track.

The Shyam scenes, Mami scenes with both actors coming to the foray. First half was the Mami scenes & the almost Con seq. & second half with Shyam's clashes with Male lead. I am in no way belittling Sanaya's contribution but the show wasn't only carried by her.

If the Male lead was not required, the big jump In the ratings wouldn't have come when he returned.

The writing of any show has to be good, I agree but in the poor writing of CC, Supriya is the one who is carrying CC on her shoulders from day 1, IMO. Sanaya is good but Supriya has been brilliant from the beginning which I think is due to the lack of good writing in case of CC character.


Please note I have never commented about Sanaya's acting in my previous post & since I am being polite here, would appreciate to have similar replies back to me. 😊


Edited by archie_79 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: archie_79

TRP of the show last year:

Week 27 - (01 JULY 2012 To 7 JULY 2012) - Avg TRP 3.43 (The huge jump due to the return of the Male lead)

Week 26 - (23 JUNE 2012 To 29 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.72
Week 25 - (16 JUNE 2012 To 22 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50
Week 24 - (09 JUNE 2012 To 15 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.83
Week 23 - (02 JUNE 2012 To 08 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.81

Week 22 - (27 MAY 2012 To 02 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.79
Week 21 - (20 MAY 2012 To 26 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50 (ILU promo was in the mid of the week)
Week 20 - (13 MAY 2012 To 19 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.27 (the first week of Male lead's absence)

Source: TelevisionTRP.com


Never was the TRP of the show 3 + during the kidnapping track.

The Shyam scenes, Mami scenes with both actors coming to the foray. First half was the Mami scenes & the almost Con seq. & second half with Shyam's clashes with Male lead. I am in no way belittling Sanaya's contribution but the show wasn't only carried by her.

If the Male lead was not required, the big jump In the ratings wouldn't have come when he returned.

The writing of any show has to be good, I agree but in the poor writing of CC, Supriya is the one who is carrying CC on her shoulders from day 1, IMO. Sanaya is good but Supriya has been brilliant from the beginning which I think is due to the lack of good writing in case of CC character.


Please note I am never commented about Sanaya's acting in my previous post & since I am being polite here, would like to have similar replies back to me. 😊



god who is saying male lead is not required!
don't u get the point, both r needed equally! and as long as both r fab actors, if one is missing either one can hold the fort for a short period of time and keep the show afloat as long as the storyline and supporting cast backs it!

stop this devaluing one person's hard work and glorifying the other!
it would have been exactly the same had Khushi(character) been missing and Barun had to hold the fort! just like how it was when Arnav (character) was missing and Sanaya held it together!


and post the TRPs on the week just b4 barun was not there? and both were together? it was IPL weeks it was still low! and combine it to oen of them being missing and TRPs obviously dip!🥱
stop trying to show one if more imp than the other in IPK.. both were 50-50 in that!
Edited by princessunara - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: archie_79

TRP of the show last year:

Week 27 - (01 JULY 2012 To 7 JULY 2012) - Avg TRP 3.43 (The huge jump due to the return of the Male lead)

Week 26 - (23 JUNE 2012 To 29 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.72
Week 25 - (16 JUNE 2012 To 22 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50
Week 24 - (09 JUNE 2012 To 15 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.83
Week 23 - (02 JUNE 2012 To 08 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.81

Week 22 - (27 MAY 2012 To 02 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.79
Week 21 - (20 MAY 2012 To 26 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50 (ILU promo was in the mid of the week)
Week 20 - (13 MAY 2012 To 19 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.27 (the first week of Male lead's absence)

Source: TelevisionTRP.com


Never was the TRP of the show 3 + during the kidnapping track.

The Shyam scenes, Mami scenes with both actors coming to the foray. First half was the Mami scenes & the almost Con seq. & second half with Shyam's clashes with Male lead. I am in no way belittling Sanaya's contribution but the show wasn't only carried by her.

If the Male lead was not required, the big jump In the ratings wouldn't have come when he returned.

The writing of any show has to be good, I agree but in the poor writing of CC, Supriya is the one who is carrying CC on her shoulders from day 1, IMO. Sanaya is good but Supriya has been brilliant from the beginning which I think is due to the lack of good writing in case of CC character.


Please note I am never commented about Sanaya's acting in my previous post & since I am being polite here, would like to have similar replies back to me. 😊




I stand corrected. However, I would like to point out that from your post, TRPs fell during the first week of the male lead's absence and then recovered to steady around 2.8 for the rest of the track. The important tracks during that time were Shyam-Khushi, Mami-Khushi investigation track and then Khushi-NK.
The ones which did not work, were Payash-Chameli ka tel, Bubbly and Masala Mama tracks ... none of them involved Khushi.

I don;t remember much of Shyam-male lead confrontations during the bulk of the kidnapping track ... please excuse my memory there. I remember them near the end of the track.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessunara


god who is saying male lead is not required!
don't u get the point, both r needed equally! and as long as both r fab actors, if one is missing either one can hold the fort for a short period of time and keep the show afloat as long as the storyline and supporting cast backs it!

stop this devaluing one person's hard work and glorifying the other!
it would have been exactly the same had Khushi(character) been missing and Barun had to hold the fort! just like how it was when Arnav (character) was missing and Sanaya held it together!


and post the TRPs on the week just b4 barun was not there? and both were together? it was IPL weeks it was still low! and combine it to oen of them being missing and TRPs obviously dip!🥱
stop trying to show one if more imp than the other in IPK.. both were 50-50 in that!



Please don't mistake me, I am no belittling anyone here. I am just stating that Sanaya alone was not responsible for carrying the show on her shoulders in the kidnapping track. There was equal contribution from others like AM, UN, writers & even BS. By saying that Sanaya was the one sole responsible for TRPs, we are forgetting the other's contributions

The TRPs before Barun left was

Week 19 - (07 MAY 2012 To 13 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.90

What I am trying to say is Sanaya alone cannot carry a show on her shoulders. Many are telling that she alone is responsible for carrying CC but for me, Supriya has outshone her & the poor writing of CC is not helping either which proves that writing is very important to get the TRPs, not the actors


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: archie_79

TRP of the show last year:

Week 27 - (01 JULY 2012 To 7 JULY 2012) - Avg TRP 3.43 (The huge jump due to the return of the Male lead)

Week 26 - (23 JUNE 2012 To 29 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.72
Week 25 - (16 JUNE 2012 To 22 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50
Week 24 - (09 JUNE 2012 To 15 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.83
Week 23 - (02 JUNE 2012 To 08 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.81

Week 22 - (27 MAY 2012 To 02 JUNE 2012) - Avg TRP 2.79
Week 21 - (20 MAY 2012 To 26 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.50 (ILU promo was in the mid of the week)
Week 20 - (13 MAY 2012 To 19 MAY 2012) - Avg TRP 2.27 (the first week of Male lead's absence)

Source: TelevisionTRP.com


Never was the TRP of the show 3 + during the kidnapping track.

The Shyam scenes, Mami scenes with both actors coming to the foray. First half was the Mami scenes & the almost Con seq. & second half with Shyam's clashes with Male lead. I am in no way belittling Sanaya's contribution but the show wasn't only carried by her.

If the Male lead was not required, the big jump In the ratings wouldn't have come when he returned.

The writing of any show has to be good, I agree but in the poor writing of CC, Supriya is the one who is carrying CC on her shoulders from day 1, IMO. Sanaya is good but Supriya has been brilliant from the beginning which I think is due to the lack of good writing in case of CC character.


Please note I am never commented about Sanaya's acting in my previous post & since I am being polite here, would like to have similar replies back to me. 😊



First up all I don't think that my reply was impolite.

And I seriously feel that u are terribly biased. How can u forget the NK - Khushi scenes, Mami - Khushi scenes and Shyam Khushi scenes. I know that most of the audience would have avoided the show if they have showed only Mami, Shyam and consummation scene..( I know that this discussion is not suitable for this forum but I cannot just tolerate the partiality which makes Sanaya's handwork futile .
And did I ever mentioned that her previous show is carried by her ?

About TRP,Till october ,TRP was above 3.00 in 3 weeks only (1 JULY - 7 July, 23 Sep-29 Sep and 30 Sep - 7 Oct) after the kidnapping track. So that means it is not the presence of male lead but the story makes the difference.When the story become absurd the it affected the TRP.

I agree that CC's direction and script should improve a lot and that will affect the acting part, but don't tell me that the show is totally depending on Supriya Pathak.
How many of u are agreeing with this argument that Supriya pathak alone is carrying this show on her shoulder ?




Edited by ramyarn - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiyaS



I stand corrected. However, I would like to point out that from your post, TRPs fell during the first week of the male lead's absence and then recovered to steady around 2.8 for the rest of the track. The important tracks during that time were Shyam-Khushi, Mami-Khushi investigation track and then Khushi-NK.
The ones which did not work, were Payash-Chameli ka tel, Bubbly and Masala Mama tracks ... none of them involved Khushi.

I don;t remember much of Shyam-male lead confrontations during the bulk of the kidnapping track ... please excuse my memory there. I remember them near the end of the track.


Yes it rose with the promise of the male lead character being shown.

We don't know what worked & what did not work for TRP audience, right? The tracks which did not work that u mentioned were the ones which we online viewers didn't like. TRP audience might have had different views. Again the Masala mama, bubbli tracks were due to whom, the writers. So the writers should get the credit for the other tracks too

I was talking about the 2nd half of the kidnapping track where the male lead & Shyam had confrontations, I remember the scenes since I used to hope in each episode that they will show the glimpse of the male lead character which used to be 2-3 times in a week.

I am not telling that Sanaya has not worked hard during the track but acknowledge the contributions for others too.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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You can hav your pov,
Wven after 3 months story set the trp has not increased then it worriesome.

Now story has just begun let it unfold
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: archie_79



@ Red - I beg to differ on this point

I just want to say that when the male lead was kidnapped the ratings went down to 2.3 which improved the next week only due to the ILU promo & the sightings of him in between which sort of convinced the viewers that he is coming back.

When I told my TRP viewer mom after the ME in May that the actor is leaving for movie shoot, her immediate reply was then he is not coming back. This would have been the view of most TRP viewers who did not have access to the Online news & showing the male lead gave them the belief that he is there.

Also the writing & the villian carried it forward but not just the female lead, I was pissed off with the female lead esp. after she comes back from the almost Con seq.

I can speak for myself since I was so bugged with the female lead Investigating track that every day I used to catch the episodes hoping for the Male lead sighting & I was not a purely the Male actor fan then, I was a fan of the couple but that period made me realize what the absence of Male lead means in the previous show.

I used to support the posts urging members to watch the show for Sanaya's sake but was never eagerly waiting to the episode & never watched the 11 pm repeats which I had never missed from Feb & continued after the Male lead returned.


I am sorry to bring the previous show & the characters here but its in reply to the comment which I have quoted which mentions it


@ TM ' I agree with you that CC is a poorly executed show & its being carried by Supriya alone. They have to up the execution part immensely to be some sort of competition for DABH





Which lead you liked or not in Sanaya's previous show is personal preference and is a subjective choice. But TRPs did not depend on sighting of a single actor then, and they don't even now, the bottom line is storytelling.

TRPs for that show went up a bit during the reunion week, when the male lead came back from being kidnapped. Then, TRPs fell down despite both leads being there. Later, TRPs fell even more than kidnapping track, when abortion track came. You can go check. TRPs then never went high again, despite both leads being there. The show never returned to top 5, despite all actors being there.

So, having a particular actor or not makes difference for a week or more, than it is about script, tracks, and execution. There you are right. This was true for Sanaya's previous show too. The shows best TRPs came during lead's siblings wedding preparation. For EVERY SHOW the rule is same, good writing, good execution translates to more audience.


Edited by showviewer - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: archie_79


Yes it rose with the promise of the male lead character being shown.

We don't know what worked & what did not work for TRP audience, right? The tracks which did not work that u mentioned were the ones which we online viewers didn't like. TRP audience might have had different views. Again the Masala mama, bubbli tracks were due to whom, the writers. So the writers should get the credit for the other tracks too

I was talking about the 2nd half of the kidnapping track where the male lead & Shyam had confrontations, I remember the scenes since I used to hope in each episode that they will show the glimpse of the male lead character which used to be 2-3 times in a week.

I am not telling that Sanaya has not worked hard during the track but acknowledge the contributions for others too.


Sorry to but in @ bold if anybody knew dont you think all would have done same kind of shows, cause i could not stand gopi bahu show but it had it high days.
Sanz Said in one of int that You never know what clicks what does not.
Hence tough to say.

About the trp of the previous show yeah we all loved the show but Gopi bahu ruled trp when our show was loved by all of us then what syopped it from rulling the chart

The sucess of a actor canbe measuredon how much offer or how many ph are willing to work with her and we all know the answer for it.
Yes i wouldlike cc to do well i would like to seesanz and supriyaji lighting the scene with excellent acting But then if i have any one point to make it happen then know i do not k ow

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