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Posted: 4 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Nikita_99503

I understand what you said about flawed characters... But idhar, its RR's core characteristic that he owns up to what he does, no matter the consequence. And if they would have shown RR lying here, it would have diluted his core essence.

Coming to his lying, even I liked the human touch they gave by showing him lying for once because he wants everyone to be happy... as well has wants himself to have a happy family that he always craved for.

But at the same time, I'm feeling bad for Pallavi. She deserves to know what happened to Mandaar. She has legit spent all these years trying to get to the bottom of the entire story but it was of no avail. Without getting a closure to what happened with Mandaar, she surely would not be able to move on in her life peacefully. She would still have this turmoil inside her that she wasn't able to get to the bottom of the mystery.

Regarding stretching, I doubt if they are going to stretch it too much...

There was surely no need to drag Kirti into the mess. But weirdly enough, it kind of fits the theory as to why RR was so desperate to cover the entire thing up.

Regarding Mansi's black wash... I don't know why but I'm in two minds about that.


Let's agree to disagree here.

The only point I agree would be about Pallu, she deserves to know the truth and I feel sad for her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I would say Pallavi is justified in her stand, for now. Ab baki makers ke haath mein hain ki woh kitna kheechte hain.

That is precisely why I'm giving a leverage to Pallavi right now. She has the right to know what happened with Mandaar. He was her first husband. She wanted to start a new life with him but she couldn't. She has spent all these years trying to get to the bottom of the mystery so, she is completely justified in her stand here.


😃

TBH, symbolish to hota hi hain. Aur agar hum fans itna symbolish dhoond sakte hain to yeh kehna bhi theek nahi hain ki jo original writers hain woh bas aise hi likh dete hain. Kuch imagination to unki bhi hain.

Problem is, they screw up the stories in between so much that believe nahi hota ki itna bakwas jo likhte hain, unke dimag mein bhi accha kuch aa sakta hain. 🤔

I agree. Agar fans itna symbolism dhoondhte hain to obviously, writers bhi kuch to soch kar hi likhte honge. Ainwayi thode na kuch bhi utha kar likh dete hain.

Ye to hai... They do end up screwing up the stories in between. And tab dimag kharab hota hai.


Waise ek aur symbolism dhundi hain recently MATSH lekar. 😈 Batau? 😛

Sure... Why not. 😎

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Posted: 4 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Madhura..


Exactly, the typical track. Taking kirti ka blame on him and all.

Well, this was kinda expected. Again, not surprised. Dekhte hain, kitna time lagta hai is poore sequence mein...

What I'm waiting for is Mandaar's entry... (real ya fake, wo baad mein dekhenge.)

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Posted: 4 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Madhura..


Let's agree to disagree here.

The only point I agree would be about Pallu, she deserves to know the truth and I feel sad for her.

Obviously, we can always agree to disagree 🤗

Definitely. Pallavi deserves to know the truth and here, I feel sad for her.


Besides, she is also in for a major heartbreak.

She placed full trust on Raghav and now, if she gets to know that RR was lying to her and deliberately tried to mislead her (story about the ring etc) she'll be broken.

And when Mandaar returns and she gets to know his true colours, she is in for another shock and heartbreak.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#35

I have to go now, cya both later.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Madhura..

I have to go now, cya both later.

Okay, see you later when you'll be around 🤗

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Posted: 4 years ago
#37

Sure... Why not. 😎

Okay, so this was about the transitioning period between the last two tracks.


2nd last - when suddenly an evil twin of Ranveer popped up, framed the original one in Ishaani's cousin's murder case and injected Ranveer with a virus which started deteriorating his face.


Last one - the villain of that track had blackmailed Dumbo to leave Ranveer and he would save him from the murder case as well as give him the injections which was required for his well being.


Now, my confusion based on the forum discussion is, the PH and channel tried to advertise the last track saying it was Ranveer's hatred for Ishaani finally. But then they showed he actually never hated her. He was angry and reacting but deep down he was looking for some sign from Dumbo so that he could take her back.


Forumwasis predicted it was because of the dip in TRP because the story was always about Ranveer's love and no one would watch it if he took a 180 degree flip. So they scrapped the track and returned to the original idea. Quite possible.


But the symbolism I found there was just before Dumbo suffered from another attack of her Mahanta and went into sacrificial mode she had a dialogue like... "Main ja rahi hoon. But laut ke zaroor aungi. Tum mera intezaar karna."


It was in a sense a huge development for her character because earlier she would always try to become the noble idiot and take everything upon herself. In the process, actually destroying their relationship. But the way I see it, post IshKar Track both the leads got the biggest lessons of their lives.


Ranveer realized his social status meant nothing to Dumbo and she would go to the extent of sacrificing her life (which she had done thrice by then). So he kind of got over his insecurity. But he had also confessed that he was exhausted and if he had to lose her another time, he would die.


Whereas for our Dumbo, she realized no matter how much she pushed Ranveer away, the guy was so hopelessly in love with her that he would rather suffer but never let go. So she too reached to a point where she made sure to let him know what he meant to her and she was in no longer in her sacrificial mode. It was either with him or she would die.


Ehm! Poora itihas likh dala.


So I found symbolism in Dumbo's dialogue - "Main ja rahi hoon. But laut ke zaroor aungi. Tum mera intezaar karna."


She did leave him, suffered tremendously both in terms of physical and mental torture but she kept looking for a way out. Whereas Ranveer was angry and in pain but he always had hope. He did wait for her and finally he put the pieces together and they reunited at last.


Zyada soch lia kya maine? 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Sure... Why not. 😎

Okay, so this was about the transitioning period between the last two tracks.


2nd last - when suddenly an evil twin of Ranveer popped up, framed the original one in Ishaani's cousin's murder case and injected Ranveer with a virus which started deteriorating his face.


Last one - the villain of that track had blackmailed Dumbo to leave Ranveer and he would save him from the murder case as well as give him the injections which was required for his well being.


Now, my confusion based on the forum discussion is, the PH and channel tried to advertise the last track saying it was Ranveer's hatred for Ishaani finally. But then they showed he actually never hated her. He was angry and reacting but deep down he was looking for some sign from Dumbo so that he could take her back.


Forumwasis predicted it was because of the dip in TRP because the story was always about Ranveer's love and no one would watch it if he took a 180 degree flip. So they scrapped the track and returned to the original idea. Quite possible.


But the symbolism I found there was just before Dumbo suffered from another attack of her Mahanta and went into sacrificial mode she had a dialogue like... "Main ja rahi hoon. But laut ke zaroor aungi. Tum mera intezaar karna."


It was in a sense a huge development for her character because earlier she would always try to become the noble idiot and take everything upon herself. In the process, actually destroying their relationship. But the way I see it, post IshKar Track both the leads got the biggest lessons of their lives.


Ranveer realized his social status meant nothing to Dumbo and she would go to the extent of sacrificing her life (which she had done thrice by then). So he kind of got over his insecurity. But he had also confessed that he was exhausted and if he had to lose her another time, he would die.


Whereas for our Dumbo, she realized no matter how much she pushed Ranveer away, the guy was so hopelessly in love with her that he would rather suffer but never let go. So she too reached to a point where she made sure to let him know what he meant to her and she was in no longer in her sacrificial mode. It was either with him or she would die.


Ehm! Poora itihas likh dala.


So I found symbolism in Dumbo's dialogue - "Main ja rahi hoon. But laut ke zaroor aungi. Tum mera intezaar karna."


She did leave him, suffered tremendously both in terms of physical and mental torture but she kept looking for a way out. Whereas Ranveer was angry and in pain but he always had hope. He did wait for her and finally he put the pieces together and they reunited at last.


Zyada soch lia kya maine? 😆

Good morning behen... 🤗

Couldn't reply to it yesterday.

Now, coming to your entire description of the track and the dialogue... I have no idea whether it was intentional or unintentional but the dialogue actually correlates with your description nicely.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Nikita_99503

Good morning behen... 🤗

Couldn't reply to it yesterday.

Now, coming to your entire description of the track and the dialogue... I have no idea whether it was intentional or unintentional but the dialogue actually correlates with your description nicely.

Good morning! 🤗


No problem dear. 😊


Hehehehe 😆 That's what I said, sometimes I feel the writers indeed possess the much required foresight and other times all of it seems like TRP ka khel.


The only good thing was, they didn't butcher Ranveer's character like earlier to glorify Dumbo and Dumbo evolved finally. 🤪


And Nushy got to play symbolism symbolism. 😛

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nushy1995

Good morning! 🤗


No problem dear. 😊


Hehehehe 😆 That's what I said, sometimes I feel the writers indeed possess the much required foresight and other times all of it seems like TRP ka khel.


The only good thing was, they didn't butcher Ranveer's character like earlier to glorify Dumbo and Dumbo evolved finally. 🤪


And Nushy got to play symbolism symbolism. 😛

🤗

True. At times it does feel like the writers possess foresight and deliberately insert scenes/dialogues to be related to in the future. But many times, it seems like a trp game too...

Ah... I'm glad they didn't butcher Ranveer's character and your Dumbo too evolved. 😆

Its actually interesting to play symbolism-symbolism. Kabhi kabhi actually mein bahut maza aata hai... 😛

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