||CC Thread #5|| ||Exploring the Greys|| ||Invites Only|| - Page 12

Originally posted by: Madhura..

Thank you 😃

Exactly! See in general, hum same me nahin jaate but certain sequences are special toh you can't help but make. Plus yes, as you gave example, har kisi ka different hota hai.

Exactly, too much isliye humne post kiya na😃😃 but happy ppl liked.

🤣🤣 yes, true! Kadak gifs.

Agree on everything! 🤗 And thanks for liking my GIFs. 😳 😳 😳

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Ahem ahem! Ab baat thoda dangerous point pe ja rahi hain. 😛

TBH, the entire Mandaar-Keerti thing looked too pheeka to me. Ab main basic characteristic trait ya utna detail mein nahi jaungi, because I haven't watched properly. In general koi bhi insaan chahega ki unke apne sahi salamat rahe.

As for Pallu, I don't know if it's the script writing or acting or just too much rushing, mujhe koi feel nahi aya.

Like when I watched Bhootu, it kind of made sense that Suchi was torn between Pihu/Bhootu and Aarav. So somewhere her outburst or where she collapsed since she couldn't handle the stress anymore - that made sense. Even Aarav's dilemma regarding his sister and love made sense.

Yaha pe Pallavi bas sach sach ka rat lagaye baithi hain but it's coming out more as bhashan to me. Like aisa nahi lag raha hain ki she is devastated for Mandaar or she is even grasping what RR is going through. Fokat ka gyan de rahi hain about right and wrong.

So I don't know main iss mohtarma aur unka opinion ka kya matlam nikalu... 🤔

Otherwise, agar yeh constant Pallu bashing ki mood mein hain then all we can do is ignore.

This Mandaar-Kirti-Sunny-Ved thing is actually pheeka. And you are not wrong when you say that it looks rushed because it actually is. They have a trp pressure and they are rushing with this accident track because after this, Mandaar is supposed to enter and they are trying to increase their pace.

Besides here, both Raghav and Pallavi are correct at their places but at the same time, both are wrong too because they aren't using their brains and taking the other person into consideration properly.

Both Pallavi and Raghav are being their emotional selves here. Dono mein se ek bhi apna dimag theek se use nahi kar raha hai... Idiots.

Regarding Pallavi, yes her dialogues actually seem to be a bhashan. That is because of the shoddy writing.

She wants a closure to what happened with Mandaar. She wants a closure because she wants to move on in her life and she wants to know what exactly happened and because of whom it happened that she (and D-fam) had to suffer all these years.

But here, she is not taking Raghav and his family into consideration properly. She wants justice but she isn't properly thinking as to what impact it will have on the Raos. Raghav has just got back his entire family after all these years. He has gone through so much and finally has his family with him. Truth coming out will get her the desired justice but it will again create a crack in the Rao family.

For Raghav... He wants to save Kirti at all costs and that is what any brother will do. He wants Pallavi to have a closure even if it means him going to jail.

Now, this even though is completely wrong would still have been fine if Pallavi wouldn't have known that he's innocent.

Here, she knows that he is innocent yet he is ready to go to jail to save his sister.

He is currently laser forcused on saving Kirti. But what he is not thinking is how this will impact the others.

How broken Amma will be when she will get to know that Kirti was responsible for Mandaar's accident and Raghav took the blame on himself.

Pallavi will be on the receiving end of the taunts of everyone... first she received taunts for being a widow and now it will be for being the wife of a "murderer", the wife of the person who killed her ex-husband.

Also, Pallavi wants to know the truth. She doesn't want to send any random Tom, Dick and Harry to jail for her closure... Aisa thode na hai ki kisi bachhe ko chocolate nahi mili to ice cream pakda di. Kirti nahi to Raghav hi sahi waala hisaab thode na hai.

Yes, he is stuck in a situation of "Aage kuan, peeche khai" but yahan par ye apna dimag use nahi kar raha hai.

Originally posted by: Madhura..

Oh acha. He bhagwaan, ye fans kyu sab jagah bhagwaan ko laate hai beech me😡

Oh, her. Yaad mat dilao uski.

Wahi to... These fans are hell bent on inserting Gods everywhere. Kuch aur jaise milta hi nahi hai inhe.

Yeah, her... I myself don't want to remeber her but username dekha and yaad aa gayi.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Ab aise maat bolo yaar! 😈 Usually hum teenoka view same hi hota hain. Woh to bas ek do bar thoda different hue honge.

First of all, I am damn annoyed that Keerti maroed flip. In fact, woh jo main aur Nikki Symbolism pe jhad rahe the, to usne ek scene bataya aur maine dekha bhi. In the pilot episode Sanki seemed so homely and sweet aur kya se kya bana dia! Now Keerti expecting RR to let Farhad take the fall - it was extremely low.

And I am in no way belittling Pallu's sorrow. Living as a widow is no trivial thing. Par practically kabhi use kuch feel karte hue nahi dekha. To ab jab woh kehti hain ki pura Deshmukh khandan suffered it makes no sense because ek hafta bhi nahi hua she pointed out how shallow they are.

And RR was damn right when he said purane rishte ki liye naya rishta kharab mat karo.

Koi bhi insaan darke woh-i karta jo Keerti ne kia.

At least kuch to turmoil dikhao Pallu ka, then I'll understand.

At this rate I can't believe that I am saying this but iske samne to ab Porer Meye is looking better as Shayan was constantly flipping between his brother and Nazifa.

Aise delicate plots ke liye kaafi development ki zaroorat hoti hain. Yaha pe to sab flip karke baithe hain and don't get me wrong but I can see Pallu becoming Ishita 2.0 🥱

Humse pucho humare kirti ka kya kiya it didn't fit, she wasn't hollow. Leads ke glorification me kiya sab bakwas. That's why I hate it, writing.. And all.

Saare characters tbh, Farhad being pallu ka yes man and ditching RR, ya pallu suddenly connecting all dots, nothing makes sense.

Ab I wouldn't have disc par aapne topic nikala.

Also pallu ka logic of RR helping a girl so can never do wrong, am sorry ye mujhe dumb laga🤣

It's like saying hayye you behave so good with me, take care of me toh in office also you would be too sweet 🙉, ab time and place ke hisaab se log karte hai. Person would be extremely strict and harsh as per his team to get work done and for his company.

So kirti ka flip is exactly equal to me like kal ye log dikhaye, Pallu ne murder kiya kisi ka jaake.

Just as I won't buy that, cos it doesn't fit in character, I don't buy this crap.

Keerti was never so horrible ki dusron ko bole itna blame lelo kuch bhi. Matlab bas glorify karna hai sabko toh kirti bakri bani hai. Even she going with sunny didn't fit at all.

Baki I agree on what you said about pallu.

Also for me mhrw was RR and baki characters too, ab wo hi nahi raha toh main kya dekhu. RR was grey, grey grey. Usko white banana is murdering him, idiots!!

Originally posted by: Nikita_99503

Wahi to... These fans are hell bent on inserting Gods everywhere. Kuch aur jaise milta hi nahi hai inhe.

Yeah, her... I myself don't want to remeber her but username dekha and yaad aa gayi.

I understand! Remember maine bhi bola tha kuch din pehle kaise mere ex show walon ne bhi bhagwaan bana diya sabko. 🤣

Originally posted by: Madhura..

I understand! Remember maine bhi bola tha kuch din pehle kaise mere ex show walon ne bhi bhagwaan bana diya sabko. 🤣

Honestly I wonder what obsession do these people have with comparing characters with Gods?! Why is it absolutely necessary to do it? Ek chhote se chhota point bhi mil jaaye to comparison chalu ho jaata hai...

Originally posted by: Nikita_99503

Honestly I wonder what obsession do these people have with comparing characters with Gods?! Why is it absolutely necessary to do it? Ek chhote se chhota point bhi mil jaaye to comparison chalu ho jaata hai...

Pagal hai bas! It's actually sick, cos Gods are gods for a reason, aise ek do cheezon se thodi koi bhagwaan banta hai.

Originally posted by: Madhura..

Pagal hai bas! It's actually sick, cos Gods are gods for a reason, aise ek do cheezon se thodi koi bhagwaan banta hai.

Exactly!! These people are just crazy... Comparing Gods with tv shows characters is indeed sick. Gods are Gods for a reason... Ainwayi ek-do minor similarities (in their language) nikalne se characters won't become equivalent to Gods.

Originally posted by: Nikita_99503

This Mandaar-Kirti-Sunny-Ved thing is actually pheeka. And you are not wrong when you say that it looks rushed because it actually is. They have a trp pressure and they are rushing with this accident track because after this, Mandaar is supposed to enter and they are trying to increase their pace.

Besides here, both Raghav and Pallavi are correct at their places but at the same time, both are wrong too because they aren't using their brains and taking the other person into consideration properly.

Both Pallavi and Raghav are being their emotional selves here. Dono mein se ek bhi apna dimag theek se use nahi kar raha hai... Idiots.

Regarding Pallavi, yes her dialogues actually seem to be a bhashan. That is because of the shoddy writing.

She wants a closure to what happened with Mandaar. She wants a closure because she wants to move on in her life and she wants to know what exactly happened and because of whom it happened that she (and D-fam) had to suffer all these years.

But here, she is not taking Raghav and his family into consideration properly. She wants justice but she isn't properly thinking as to what impact it will have on the Raos. Raghav has just got back his entire family after all these years. He has gone through so much and finally has his family with him. Truth coming out will get her the desired justice but it will again create a crack in the Rao family.

For Raghav... He wants to save Kirti at all costs and that is what any brother will do. He wants Pallavi to have a closure even if it means him going to jail.

Now, this even though is completely wrong would still have been fine if Pallavi wouldn't have known that he's innocent.

Here, she knows that he is innocent yet he is ready to go to jail to save his sister.

He is currently laser forcused on saving Kirti. But what he is not thinking is how this will impact the others.

How broken Amma will be when she will get to know that Kirti was responsible for Mandaar's accident and Raghav took the blame on himself.

Pallavi will be on the receiving end of the taunts of everyone... first she received taunts for being a widow and now it will be for being the wife of a "murderer", the wife of the person who killed her ex-husband.

Also, Pallavi wants to know the truth. She doesn't want to send any random Tom, Dick and Harry to jail for her closure... Aisa thode na hai ki kisi bachhe ko chocolate nahi mili to ice cream pakda di. Kirti nahi to Raghav hi sahi waala hisaab thode na hai.

Yes, he is stuck in a situation of "Aage kuan, peeche khai" but yahan par ye apna dimag use nahi kar raha hai.

That's the thing yaar! You need to have amazing writing to support such complex plots. Because at the end, no one is wrong from their perspective.

I have seen this track in two shows - Bhootu & Naamkaran.

While Bhootu addressed the conflict between picking one from two loved ones, Naamkaran also addressed the issue similar to how will Amma react to the Keerti revelation.

Bhootu in my opinion stood out because even when Suchi was hell bent on punishing Mansi (Aarav's sister and the main antagonist), she was sympathetic towards Aarav. She realized why he was doing the sacrifice drama and when Mansi went to prison and he swore revenge on Suchi, even then she said "I can sympathize with you for losing your sister. If you want to vent then go ahead. But I have my reason and I can't deter from my path." And from Aarav's POV it was like "I don't hate you. I never could. But I can't love you either. How do I accept the person who hurt my sister?" Their dilemma and mutual admiration was always visible but both being egoistic, their conflicts also made sense.

Here I can hardly see Pallu sympathizing with RR or even grasping the depth of the situation. Which makes me want to slap her.

And coming to the Naamkaran bit, Avni's FIL murdered her mother in drugged state. She could not let the truth come out because she knew it would kill Prakash (FIL) and also his mother because she genuinely treated Neela (Avni's mother) as her daughter. The situation was complex, she couldn't turn to law and instead she staged her own death to punish the original killer. Now, do I support Avni for destroying Neil's life who spent the next 10 years of his life like a zombie - No! But do I sympathize for the girl who was stuck from every point and tried to keep everyone happy? my heart went out to her. They did not flip any of the side characters and it made some sense. I felt conflicted throughout as to whether I should support Avni or not. Woh baat alag hain ki unhone bhi story ka dhajiya udayi with forced love triangle but you get the point.

So here, I feel like yawning. Even Mandaar does not interest me TBH. Have been hearing news of it going off-air and honestly, I would be glad if they end on a decent note than all this whitewashing and blackwashing while totally making a khichdi out of such complex scenarios.

Originally posted by: Madhura..

Humse pucho humare kirti ka kya kiya it didn't fit, she wasn't hollow. Leads ke glorification me kiya sab bakwas. That's why I hate it, writing.. And all.

Saare characters tbh, Farhad being pallu ka yes man and ditching RR, ya pallu suddenly connecting all dots, nothing makes sense.

Ab I wouldn't have disc par aapne topic nikala.

Also pallu ka logic of RR helping a girl so can never do wrong, am sorry ye mujhe dumb laga 🤣

It's like saying hayye you behave so good with me, take care of me toh in office also you would be too sweet 🙉, ab time and place ke hisaab se log karte hai. Person would be extremely strict and harsh as per his team to get work done and for his company.

So kirti ka flip is exactly equal to me like kal ye log dikhaye, Pallu ne murder kiya kisi ka jaake.

Just as I won't buy that, cos it doesn't fit in character, I don't buy this crap.

Keerti was never so horrible ki dusron ko bole itna blame lelo kuch bhi. Matlab bas glorify karna hai sabko toh kirti bakri bani hai. Even she going with sunny didn't fit at all.

Baki I agree on what you said about pallu.

Also for me mhrw was RR and baki characters too, ab wo hi nahi raha toh main kya dekhu. RR was grey, grey grey. Usko white banana is murdering him, idiots!!

Exactly! Yaha pe bekar glorification ho rahi hain aur woh bhi baki saare characters ke expense pe.

Plus, as you said, kaun se angle se Sunny Keerti ki saath fit hota hain? Bas kuch bhi bakwas dikha do.

And as for grey is concerned, one can turn a new leaf but major characteristics always remain there. Like, one of my most favorite scenes from OUAT includes Regina telling Emma how doing the right things was taking a toll on her because inside her she still had the same impulse but she couldn't resort to darkness again. It was exhausting.

And she remained fierce all along. It's not like just because she became positive she started singing songs in gardens. Roothlessness when it's required was always a part of her. And that complexity makes her the most loved character on OUAT. I am not saying for argument's sake. You google and you'll find her name on the top of any poll which is created for the most loved characters of that show.

But yaha pe to RR bheegi billi ban gaya. So I can definitely understand your frustration.