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Posted: 7 years ago
So many pages 😃 my eyes is stuck on 'Jha is listening' 😆 however Much I hated the way the show ended, he's one brilliant writer!
As for judging Sobti's ability to select scripts, his upcoming projects will tell us!! His boredom that becomes so obvious is because of the kind of acting he does, gets into the character. He chews ruminates on it then comes alive on screen. When he's not given that unknowningly it comes out as boredom.

Chick after a certain EDKV thamasha, goofball has become more adorable. I don't even want to talk about that show and the actor's behaviour 😕
Thanks for the iv link: loving this fella, baba is getting smarter with his responses. Shahana is awesome!!

Ranju thanks for the link 😳 RKC is a must watch , superman aka Kunal you should watch when you want to have some time smiling and giggling relive your childhood. If four lions had weirdo kids this na bole was totally cute!!

SoreT : loved loved na bole 😳 you wanting to understand Satrupa is 😆 she's one mysterious woman several layers to her.But as of now they haven't focussed on her aspects. What I'm having issue at the moment is how they're focussing on her in the right and Anami in wrong. Anami has no reason to trust Satrupa's warnings about Narottam! Infact she has more reason to trust Adhiraj than Satrupa!! Yesterday when Adhiraj warned her, she was more receptive to the warning than when matlabi mathaji warned her.
Satrupa has never been a mother to Anami. From Anami's perspective she's the lady who gave her the womb to develop but it's pagli pandithayan's bosom and heart were Anami's found security and comfort.
Satrupa as a mother can never justify her act, helpless or not she did give off the girl child for the same reason as why Vikram Aditya is refusing to acknowledge Anami as the waaris.

What's beautiful about the show is no character is black or white and I hope they maintain it that way to the end.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: dey.bh

Even Satrupa is a victim like Anami and Narottam. So, its wrong to not feel for her. RKC is a show or rather only show where I love each of the characters and hate each of them too.

Having said that, suddenly the story is shifting to potray Satrupa as a genuine mother. It never was a story about male heir vs female heir. Vikram and Baldev refused to accept Anami because they believed it was Satrupa's plan to maintain her status and power in tge family. Now, suddenly Satrupa is feeling hopeless about how she is just a guardian to Royal steel and everything she owns here is because she is Vatsalya's mother. Is this an accurate fact? I am asking this because Satrupa introduced Anaminto Vikram by saying, ' Aap Nirvash nahi huye hai Papa'. The same thing was said by Guruji also. So, when did the makers realise that the khandan has a parampara of male heir inheriting everything?

The day she delivered the twins she had three options

1) keep both of them- which she could not choose because Guruji's prophecy about delivering twina again has come true. She had to give away the eldest of the two keep her children safe and alive.

2) giving away Vatsalya and keeping Anami- which now seems to be an impossible option after male heir vs female heir twist. Anami would have lived like a princess and both the siblings wpuld have been alive but despite the super sacrifice of givig away Vatsalya, Anami would leave empty handed and probably Avdhoot would take over as the heir.

3) giving away Anamj and keeping Vatsalya- which she finally did because she thought this is the only way to save her children, give them a better life and let the original heir take the throne. It seemed to be a better option because at least one of the child would inherit what is rightfully his.It was a win win situation for her until vatsalya died.

This way they are justifying Satrupa's character. I will makr a post abouy it in the forum because Inneed to know if anyone is feeling the same way





Dey 👏 it was never about the male versus female heir suddenly Satrupa thinks that's the issue. Like you said Baldev and Dadaji has refused to accept Anami not because she is a girl but because they think she's a pawn in Satrupa's plans to hold onto power.

Satrupa as a woman is redeemable but as a mother I don't know how she can get redeemed in Anami's eyes. Fact is she did give away her girk child!! She never looked back, never missed her. Suddenly she accepts her daughter to follow her instructions! Satrupa is used to being heard not questioned.

Anami is breaking all the norms, every step of the way Anami is questioning her, reverse psychology that mummy wants to use, I hope she does it wisely.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Ecrivain.


yes the TRPs have gone up for TSMSP. The show was raking in a 0.6 at afternoon 2 PM slot and when it replaced Saathiya, at 7 PM, it opened to 1.4/1,5. However, currently the show hovers at an average of 1.2/1.3. They are almost stable and working for SP @ 7PM.

Shakti is not annoying, Soup. But yes its a tough competition for RKC ATM the channel is looking at upping the TRP ante in a safe zone, @8P, which IPK3 never really got. Beating Shakti, is a far fetched dream

Tbh IPK 3 dint really beat Mehak and Tenali Rama too. Havent you been reading my analysis here? So all RKC has to do within the next few weeks is 'get a grip' and stabilise at a slot. Period.

This IS SP's best bet, if not there is a Nikhil Dwivedi show awaiting in the pipeline.

Not following Tu Aashiqui but seen the stuff, very impactful and dark.


Shakti - I just got the initial feel of Colors exploiting a genuine problem. None of the social issue shows after BV have worked for me. It more or less started looking like a formula - let's just make more shows on the downtrodden line. That Runner girl's story got so badly sidelined, with some very bad EMAs.

Also doesn't help that I am not a great vd fan. I feel they have simply sensationalised the issue, with no real empathy. And ofc, they managed to grab the eyeballs. The current track is really annoying.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Ecrivain.

I liked this one. He says content wasnt the problem but what he doesnt add is that the execution was 😆

Nevertheless, the media is pinning him down and this is only the beginning.

His costar adds that many unreasonable shows have done well. So they do know how unreasonable it was, just why this particular one didn't work. 😆

Barun is being a true professional here.
When did this guy learn not to step on all these fine lines! 😉
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup

ST,

I think Satrupa is playing good cop, bad cop, along with Gayatri to befriend Anami, as well as keep her under control. Rather, Gayatri is filling in the gaps Satrupa should be. Satrupa tells her she is spoiling Anami, by supporting her, but Gayatri is brilliant. Grandparents can never be strict with their children, and she knows Anami needs her to turn to, in this vanvaas.

Satrupa wants to be a good disciplinarian too, since she wants Anami to change her ways to impress LMwaasis. Anami is a difficult child, and S doesn't know how to handle her emotionally. Easier for her to engage with her daughter in power battles.

Narottam is a raw nerve, and Strips loses her Manipulative mechanisms with him around. The guy upsets her so much, she can't think straight.

Why she warned Anami that Narottam definitely belonged to the gray battles - partly due to her opinion of his mother, and partly due to his own kaand, perhaps. Vatsalya was more perceptive about the power struggles, perhaps and definitely more forgiving than Satrupa. My reading is, he was caught communicating with his mother, hence the restrictions on meeting her and so on.

Also, I think Sudha must have worked on LM people hating her son. It was important to showcase him as a petty person, so he wouldn't be noticed or suspected of bigger things. I won't be surprised if she asked Narottam to steal things and get caught too, making him the vermin of the house. That tag is also a shield for him.

If you remember, the way Narottam gathered Vatsalya's stuff and went to Dadaji, whining about his right to whatever Vatsalya left behind. I think that was a ploy too, Sudha or Narottam couldn't have been naive to believe he would ever be made a heir. Narottam is that whiny child who seems to want to tag along like a leech, to Satrupa. She knows he has no personalty, and lives on the sympathies he strives to get.
Also, we don't know the backstory of Sudha and Dheeraj. There's a lot to be uncovered about the past. We know Baldev had betrayed Dheeraj, along with Pujan and Satrupa seems to have come into the picture after that. Till then, she was just the DIL, but after Dheeraj left, things moved in such a way, that Baldev was banished from the inheritance and Satrupa became the Guardian of the heir.. Or Baldev had thought Dheeraj was the one instigating his father against him, and got rid of him.

There are two battles here. One for revenge, and the other for greed. I am sure Pujan has been the shakuni for a long while, and has played his game in such a way, getting rid of his opponents one by one. Unknown to him, Sudha is heading a bigger battle, using him as her shikhandi shield. She is watching him, letting him do all her dirty work. Will these two join hands one day?


Chick I don't think Gayatri and Satrupa are working together
They have a common goal, the make sure Anami is accepted..but they aren't in cahoots..
That was obvious for how Gayatri tells Satrupa not to involve her in trying to get her way with Baldev

I don't have a problem with Satrupa being a disciplinarian..but does she even have that sort of connect with Anami that Anami would care about the what Satrupa thinks
My issue is that Satrupa doesn't even try and connect with Anami..she has wronged her ..shouldn't she be the one attempting to make amends..I don't see her doing that...instead of just laying down laws..and expects them to be followed without retaliation

@narottam: I give you that..Narottam unnerves her...upsets her..but she has been cruel with him too..like when she threatened him and asked him to stay away from Anami..this is before knowing what he is really upto

Also probably I don't like the sudden transition..it went from her giving up Anami to now her being helpless coz Vikramaditya won't allow a female heir..atleast from what I remember I don't think that was the narrative in the start..the problem was that they didn't believe Anami was Baldevs kid..infact even now..on while having breakfast..Vikram yelled Gayatri that they can't declare Anami as heir coz of how crass and uncultured she is .not coz she is a female
It feels dishonest to me..to introduce this male vs female angle to justify something


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Ecrivain.


Yeah..looks like I missed the convo regarding Gulaal
It's was so sensitive and the direction was great post leap
Not to forget Mansi and Neil who lived the characters

Sony Pal indeed had good shows.. unfortunately couldn't austain

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Ecrivain.


SoreT

You look based towards Satrupa, imo.

I know she is a grey character and has earned a lot of falk from viewers for giving up Anami. But she has also been shown a sane woman and it would be interesting to see how Narottam pragmatism unfolds and what is she golding against him.

The rest, I agree, Anami vs satrap is fab. What great chemistry here 😃


Oh I have admitted in past too..that I am biased against her
I try to be reasonable but the lack of acceptance of her crimes in the situation gets to me
I totally understand that she isn't black..heck she was charged by Baldev and I wouldn't like anything more than her to kick his lazy ass but that doesn't mean she can sweep her doings under the carpet
The problem is that the narrative has shifted to male vs female heir and that is being used as a justification for her giving up Anami..basically freeing her for being in the wrong..which wasn't the case when the show started..
Add to that I see no attempts on her behalf to sort of pacify Anami..make amends..she wants her change so that she would be fit to be the heir..without understanding of she even wants that..

But like I said..I will try and be more reasonable..so will try and see it from her side too
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: ranjitha



I have not watched a single episode of NBT, although I had a minor crush on Kunal during LRL days. May be I will search for old episodes on voot. I don't want to try any new show other than RKC which I hope to start watching from mid October.

I have liked Kunal kapoor since remix days..
He is damn cute in real life too..had seen him with his remix costar who he was dating..ofcourse he has become cuter now
LRL was great too..till Rajeev died
Used to like alekh quite a bit

NBT was a great show..which build gradually..see it whenever you have time
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: dey.bh

Even Satrupa is a victim like Anami and Narottam. So, its wrong to not feel for her. RKC is a show or rather only show where I love each of the characters and hate each of them too.

Having said that, suddenly the story is shifting to potray Satrupa as a genuine mother. It never was a story about male heir vs female heir. Vikram and Baldev refused to accept Anami because they believed it was Satrupa's plan to maintain her status and power in tge family. Now, suddenly Satrupa is feeling hopeless about how she is just a guardian to Royal steel and everything she owns here is because she is Vatsalya's mother. Is this an accurate fact? I am asking this because Satrupa introduced Anaminto Vikram by saying, ' Aap Nirvash nahi huye hai Papa'. The same thing was said by Guruji also. So, when did the makers realise that the khandan has a parampara of male heir inheriting everything?

The day she delivered the twins she had three options

1) keep both of them- which she could not choose because Guruji's prophecy about delivering twina again has come true. She had to give away the eldest of the two keep her children safe and alive.

2) giving away Vatsalya and keeping Anami- which now seems to be an impossible option after male heir vs female heir twist. Anami would have lived like a princess and both the siblings wpuld have been alive but despite the super sacrifice of givig away Vatsalya, Anami would leave empty handed and probably Avdhoot would take over as the heir.

3) giving away Anamj and keeping Vatsalya- which she finally did because she thought this is the only way to save her children, give them a better life and let the original heir take the throne. It seemed to be a better option because at least one of the child would inherit what is rightfully his.It was a win win situation for her until vatsalya died.

This way they are justifying Satrupa's character. I will makr a post abouy it in the forum because Inneed to know if anyone is feeling the same way



Dey I am not saying she isn't a victim..she was cheated and I think she is too forgiving to not have raised hell for that..maybe she was young and couldn't do anything..

It's the bold that rankles...and feels dishonest
Tmlike they are trying too hard to justify her deeds and push her from grey to white zone..and I see this happening without any efforts from Satrupas side...

at this rate pretty soon they will start ' maa Na never be wrong and she was majboor saga' especially now that it's shifting to 8pm slot..

Jokes aside..it's the subtle but sure change in story that's not sitting well
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Dreamer-89

So many pages 😃 my eyes is stuck on 'Jha is listening' 😆 however Much I hated the way the show ended, he's one brilliant writer!
As for judging Sobti's ability to select scripts, his upcoming projects will tell us!! His boredom that becomes so obvious is because of the kind of acting he does, gets into the character. He chews ruminates on it then comes alive on screen. When he's not given that unknowningly it comes out as boredom.

Chick after a certain EDKV thamasha, goofball has become more adorable. I don't even want to talk about that show and the actor's behaviour 😕

Talking of namik?


Thanks for the iv link: loving this fella, baba is getting smarter with his responses. Shahana is awesome!!

Ranju thanks for the link 😳 RKC is a must watch , superman aka Kunal you should watch when you want to have some time smiling and giggling relive your childhood. If four lions had weirdo kids this na bole was totally cute!!

SoreT : loved loved na bole 😳 you wanting to understand Satrupa is 😆 she's one mysterious woman several layers to her.But as of now they haven't focussed on her aspects. What I'm having issue at the moment is how they're focussing on her in the right and Anami in wrong. Anami has no reason to trust Satrupa's warnings about Narottam! Infact she has more reason to trust Adhiraj than Satrupa!! Yesterday when Adhiraj warned her, she was more receptive to the warning than when matlabi mathaji warned her, helpless or not she did give off the girl child for the same reason as why Vikram Aditya is refusing to acknowledge Anami as the waaris.

What's beautiful about the show is no character is black or white and I hope they maintain it that way to the end.


@bold: totally agree

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