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Posted: 9 years ago
I understand the race for trps - sustaining business.. but when channels mint money out of senseless soaps, cannot they have one slot where they could show sensible, engrossing drama like CS??
Hoping that this is a passing phase - rather a fad - everyone jumping into the supernatural bandwagon, very soon viewers will get tired just like they got fed up of saas bahu stuff and gave a phenomenal welcome to CS..
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Posted: 9 years ago
Even CS was diluted beyond acceptable limits.
Nobody is in this business for charity. They have to make their project financially viable.

One can just take what they want and ignore the rest.

Most of the viewers do that.That is the reason why the show ran for so many years

It is only in this forum that people come to crib endlessly 😛😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
Appy are you talking about this article...

I loved the article, exactly my thoughts. Unfortunately "Indian mindset" is defined by the 70 per cent of the country's population which still lives in rural areas That explains why supernatural, black magick, poison, poisonous girls la NAGIN rule the telly land. We the 30% do not make the TRP

But I'm glad we still get some meaningful content every once in awhile. There are few production houses who try who try to experiment though they also have their limitations coz at the end of the day the CHANNEL is the boss!!

For now me Loving DEHLEEZ and I don't want any extension of this story. It's mind boggling ingly intense and gripping. They are handling the ecstasy & agony so very well. The real test for Adarsh & his newly wed have just started. If love is a treat it also is a test!! -💔-❤️

What an ensemble cast & each one is doing a fantastic job. Yes, in TV land the whole star cast has to be good to make it look like a convincing family drama!



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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: umam

I understand the race for trps - sustaining business.. but when channels mint money out of senseless soaps, cannot they have one slot where they could show sensible, engrossing drama like CS??

Hoping that this is a passing phase - rather a fad - everyone jumping into the supernatural bandwagon, very soon viewers will get tired just like they got fed up of saas bahu stuff and gave a phenomenal welcome to CS..

Gowri if I am making a show I would want it to earn money for itself by running on it's own merit.i wouldn't want to depend on the channel's goodness.
Besides will channel sit quiet if it is subsidising the expenses of making a show?

This phase will pass until something different catches the viewers' attention.
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Originally posted by: 5cents

Appy are you talking about this article...

I loved the article, exactly my thoughts. Unfortunately "Indian mindset" is defined by the 70 per cent of the country's population which still lives in rural areas That explains why supernatural, black magick, poison, poisonous girls la NAGIN rule the telly land. We the 30% do not make the TRP

But I'm glad we still get some meaningful content every once in awhile. There are few production houses who try who try to experiment though they also have their limitations coz at the end of the day the CHANNEL is the boss!!

For now me Loving DEHLEEZ and I don't want any extension of this story. It's mind boggling ingly intense and gripping. They are handling the ecstasy & agony so very well. The real test for Adarsh & his newly wed have just started. If love is a treat it also is a test!! -💔-❤️

What an ensemble cast & each one is doing a fantastic job. Yes, in TV land the whole star cast has to be good to make it look like a convincing family drama!



Tina - Nice to hear from you😊
Can't comment on Dehleez since I'm not watching it.
Sounds like a good one though.Glad that they are ending it on a high note.
Star plus though is responsible for ruining the palates of the indian viewers they know that it is better to shut down the show if it is not commercially viable rather than changing the fabric of the show and try to run it.

The issue is even this so called educated discerning viewers understood the characters like which were shown in the CS?
Are they any different from the people who are responsible for the TRPs?
They just see from lead character and side character prism and negative positive prism.
For all their claims about being discerning viewers they don't like anything better than to see the lead playing Tom and Jerry games and winning over the evil🥱
The lead of the CS was not someone who played Tom and Jerry games instead the people who cared for her played it on her behalf.So that makes the lead uninspirational for them😆
They fail to get the bigger picture.They fail to see it is the support system which she built over years and the enormous good will she has earned has come to her rescue.

I love the approach that the writers of CS taken. It is so subtle and can be interpreted in various ways according to our own perception.I realised how we interpret depends on how one looks at the world.
Wish the writers had not been so subtle though.Then they would have been able to achieve the right balance between thinking viewers. viewers who don't want to think and the viewers who think they are full of logic and consider themselves to be sensible.CS appealed to all these classes simultaneously and enormously.

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My view about supernatural elements - There the story is crystal clear.The bahu is put under a lot of pressure and she is just merciful duty conscious selfess and what not.Her fight against evil forces is out there in your face. Her victory is out there giving the viewers the necessary feel good feeling.

Ultimately regardless of the fact whether you are an urban enlightened viewer or rural viewer rich or poor you want to see the virtuous lead fighting against all odds and coming up as a winner.That story should clearly come across even while showing day to day life of the lead.Which I personally feel that the makers of the CS didn't show enough.Even if they were creating lead for the next version what stopped them from showing the original lead doing all these things?

They have converted her fight against a social evil a personal one in order to make a bigger impact but after that they did nothing.They were carried away by their Jhalra love.
I think the makers also have to accept the fact that they too made a few mistakes that lead to the decline.






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Posted: 9 years ago
Dahleez has become very interesting 😊 and I want to see how writers handle the courtroom drama, unraveling of truth and its repercussions!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
At the end BV is also a family drama.
It stood apart from the rest because all the drama came from conflict of beliefs and not because of incomprehensible kitchen politics.
We being family oriented we could connect with the drama as well as the issues which shaped characters and relationships.

I think our writers are not capable of doing research hence all content tracks related to any specific profession fall flat and they resort to tried and tested formula the family drama

That's why I don't buy any dramas which revolve around any professionas far as Indian fiction is concerned.

Udaan connects with me because the drama comes from the issue of tussle between haves and have nots the oppressed vs oppressors.The characters and their behaviour is believable because the circumstances shaped these characters are close to reality.

Really hope that shows like Dehleez pave way to series with finite no of episodes.

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Posted: 9 years ago

Balika Vadhu: An insider speaks

June 08, 2016 10:53 IST

'We felt why not have the hope that is intrinsic in every child's life, embodied in our happy protagonist and let viewers see the world full of double standards and confused adults around her through her innocent and questioning eyes?'

Avika Gor and Avinash Mukherjee as the hugely popular Anandi and Jagya in Balika Vadhu

IMAGE: Avika Gor and Avinash Mukherjee as the hugely popular Anandi and Jagya in Balika Vadhu.

It was a television serial that set many benchmarks.

It took on a subject that seemed outdated. And went on to handle that subject so sensitively that audiences rooted for the child bride, Anandi, and followed her story avidly.

It gave a newly launched channel, Colors TV, much needed success when Balika Vadhu began airing on July 21, 2008, and soon notched up viewership records.

Nearly eight years later, the multiple award-winning serial crossed another landmark -- it was listed in the Limca Book of Records as the longest daily fiction soap in Hindi, with a run of 2,196 episodes and on June 5, 2016.

Its characters -- Anandi, Jagya, Dadisa and Shiv, among others -- virtually became family members in many homes across the country.

Gajra Kottary, who teamed with Purnendu Shekhar, to co-write the serial, is proud of what they achieved.

Though Gajra -- whose serial writing credits also include Hamare Tumhare, Astitva Ek Prem Kahani, Ghar Ek Sapna, Jyoti, Panaah, Godh Bharaai, Ek Veer Ki Ardaas Veera, Buddha andSatrangi Sasural -- is no longer associated with the serial, she is thrilled with the honour and looks back at what has been a long, enlightening journey.

The initial Balika Vadhu family.

IMAGE: The initial Balika Vadhu family.

I have always been a city girl, sheher ki ladki. For me, the image of a balika vadhu (child bride) was always that of the baby doll I had dressed, rather overdressed, like a dulhan (bride), as a kid, fascinated by all the bling associated with an Indian bride.

A glittering tasselled scarf, the remainder of a mata ki chowki prasad, wrapped over her frock, felt pens used to decorate her face, a broken bracelet doubling up as a necklace.

That was the closest I had ever been to the image of a child bride.

I knew Balika Vadhu was going to be a tough one. It had been far easier for me to relate to the life of a 30 plus Dr Simran, getting under her skin as she fell in love and, through the ups and downs of her married life, still excelled in her chosen career path, since the preceding four years of the telecast of my first daily soap, Astitva, on Zee TV.

It was so progressive, so modern, etc, said everyone around me, that nothing else will ever match that storytelling on Indian television. I too believed it back then.

So when offered work on the subject of child marriage, I too questioned how relevant the subject would be to viewers at the time. Moreover, the project was being planned for a new channel and therefore, as it was not a readymade and popular platform, doubled the risk for us.

But the conviction of my senior colleague Purnendu Shekhar in his concept, and the memories of the hugely positive experience of working with him on Astitva, made me the first one to come on board after the channel and producer, and we began our in-depth research on the subject of child marriage in 2007.

At the end of three months of research, I was a different person in my approach to both the relevance and progressiveness of a particular subject to tell a story about.

Siddharth Shukla as Shiv and Toral Rasputra as Anandi in Balika Vadhu.

IMAGE: Siddharth Shukla as Shiv and Toral Rasputra as the new Anandi in Balika Vadhu.

Shocking data stared me in the face of how prevalent child marriage was, not only in India, but across the world -- from South East Asia, to the Middle East, to Africa and South America, not just in villages but in the metros too.

Interestingly for any writer, the phenomenon was inextricably interlinked with poverty, gender issues and relationship stigmas in a certain socio-economic strata of people.

As I scrolled through endless pictures that illustrated the data, I realised that none of the child brides I saw looked anywhere like my much decorated childhood doll. They stared back at me with vacant, lost and frightened eyes, both hiding and revealing their stories.

I felt compelled to tell their many stories as one story. I felt chastened at having earlier questioned how relevant this subject was at the time. I also realised how badly it needed to be brought alive for people in a truly progressive way.

Each child bride's story was different and yet they were all the same. A lost childhood, a robbed chance at education, ravaged bodies, broken hearts and a bitter future.

If this story was to be told realistically, it would have to be a combination of the cutest visuals and the grimmest of stories surrounding them, for the worst thought for anybody is a childhood without hope.

This story, if it were told too grimly, would only drive people away from the channel. It was clearly going to be the challenge in storytelling, but we were all sure this story would have to be told truthfully, yet in a palatable and attractively packaged manner.

In fact, that's how the formula for the storytelling in Balika Vadhu worked itself out. We felt why not have the hope that is intrinsic in every child's life, embodied in our happy protagonist and let viewers see the world full of double standards and confused adults around her through her innocent and questioning eyes?

The formula made sense, yet the risk was huge on another front too.

Surekha Sikri as the much-beloved Dadisa and Siddharth Shukla as Shiv in Balika Vadhu

IMAGE: Surekha Sikri as the much-beloved Dadisa and Siddharth Shukla as Shiv inBalika Vadhu.

As I have discovered in the world of television and films -- sometimes painfully -- just as you are as good as your last film or serial, a writer's fresh or unique vision can come to nought if not brought alive with equal and more conviction by the performers.

Luckily, in this respect, Balika Vadhu has been perhaps the most blessed show in the history of Indian serials.

Beginning with Avika (Gor) who tugged at viewers' heartstrings with her performance as thechild bride Anandi, taking the character several notches above our own expectations, to Dadisa (Surekha Sikri) who, for us writers, was the goddess of acting and through all others, too many to mention individually.

These two, of course, were the two pillars on which the edifice of Balika was built, brick by brick. Every performer who joined the cast as the story progressed felt the need to outdo their own selves, simply so they could meet the standards set by these two. And so, Balika grew from strength to strength.

As writers, we consciously tried to cover all aspects of rural and, later, urban life and its challenges and yet expose a slew of social issues -- going much beyond the concern of child marriage, but never letting our concept out of sight.

We took many risks too. The first time leap happened despite everyone telling us that we were being foolhardy by having our hugely popular faces be replaced and have the kids grow up.

But though we initially took a small TRP beating, Shashank (Vyas) and Pratyusha (Banerjee) gave their all to make themselves completely believable as the grown-up Jagya and Anandi, both in their own ways suffering due to their child marriage, and we slowly climbed the TRP charts again.

Anjum Farooki, as Jagya's second wife, Gauri, and Shashank Vyas as Jagya, in Balika Vadhu

IMAGE: Anjum Farooki as Jagya's second wife Gauri and Shashank Vyas as Jagya in Balika Vadhu.

People's hearts particularly went out to the petite Pratyusha, who essayed the devastated wife to haunting perfection.

They sometimes neglected to appreciate the very difficult and layered role brilliantly essayed by Shashank, just because his character was doing unpopular things -- a severe case of reel life being mistaken for real life!

Down the line, many other characters had their faces change until we no longer feared the word 'replace' and, dare I say, we helped the industry too to include it in their lexicon, for better or for worse.

Many awards and rewards followed us, as Balika Vadhu was feted not only for its writing but for its sensitive direction and fascinating production values.

Yet internally, after its fifth year, we were all dealing with the baggage that comes with all long running shows -- the price of success might one describe it?

To keep up the standards that our own show had set, we had to battle with so many problems with our lips sealed, much like the silent suffering bahus of the serials of yore.

Every other day, there were physical and mental health issues of artistes and their tantrums, which in turn affected delivery deadlines and therefore our writing.

In hindsight, one realises that all this was triggered by the stress of overwork that everyone was feeling -- a side effect of the daily soap phenomena.

Added to that, there were nerve-racking competitive tactics of rival channels and sometimes just a lack of commonality of vision or ego clashes, as newer people with different mindsets got added to the teams behind and in front of the camera.

Yet, we telecast day after day without fail, with viewers both liking and criticising us for what they saw. Either way, we writers could not speak up about anything of what was happening behind the scenes and had to take it straight on the chin, when sometimes content did not live up to people's very high expectations.

Sometimes, there were downright scary brickbats. After I joined Twitter, I received a death threat, 'You kill Shiv (Siddharth Shukla) and your family will mourn your loss.' While it psychologically affected my kids for some time, it amused me as to how seriously even educated people take their daily soaps!

But as Pratyusha's death has painfully reminded us all, life or death, the show always goes on. So Balika Vadhu lives on, though the original team has bid adieu since April 12, 2016.

It has been a wonderful 2,176 episodes and it is a great feeling being in the record books

Edited by aparnauma - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Thanks for the article Aparna 😊 An eye opener indeed!!
Remarkable feat ⭐️ for the writers and the entire team of CS to entertain viewers as the writer said keeping the core intact!!


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Posted: 9 years ago
I happened to watch Dahleez yesterday while changing channels.. Story has reached a good gripping point. Will try and follow it. When is it supposed to end ? Didn't follow the prem kahani though.. 😆

Watching Meri Awaz on and off. Too many misunderstandings is not keeping me interested.



SKR: I am liking the way they are truly showing Sita's pain and her perspective in Lanka. Sita's lecture used to get on my nerves. 😡


Kuch Rang: I had left it way back but then the jealousy track of the hero made me watch again 😆
It was really entertaining the way Dev was pissed that Sona didn't tell him she had a BF 😆
Acting, except for Supriyaji and that mami, is not all that good although Erica is doing way better than what she did in the beginning. Shaheer has not been impressive for me.
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