Jaya CC#1 Members Only (Notes on Pg#12,19)Please Vote Pg 135 - Page 24

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Posted: 10 years ago
I am not able to attach his image here dunno why..not able to make it profile pic
Sorry
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Am assuming Adi was trying to post VJ's pciture.
Will he do for Bheem?😆


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Posted: 10 years ago
well, atleast he is better looking than chetan hansraj.
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Posted: 10 years ago
One more for what Draupadi did. You know I figured out that the proof is there in the texts, I don't really need the Drau-Satya convo. I really think the convo itself is an interpolation, because Panchali comes across as a 'sorted out' person who really didn't keep a tally of what she did an how she felt

Vaisampayana said, "Those bulls among men, collecting the produce of the wilderness and killing the deer with pure arrows, first dedicated a portion of the food to the Brahmanas, and themselves are the rest. For, O king, while those heroes wielding large bows lived in the woods, they were followed by Brahmanas of both classes, viz., those worshipping with fire and those worshipping without it. And there were ten thousand illustrious Snataka Brahmanas, all conversant with the means of salvation, whom Yudhishthira supported in the woods. And killing with arrows Rurus and the black deer and other kinds of clean animals of the wilderness, he gave them unto those Brahmanas. And no one that lived with Yudhishthira looked pale or ill, or was lean or weak, or was melancholy or terrified. And the chief of the Kurus--the virtuous king Yudhishthira--maintained his brothers as if they were his sons, and his relatives as if they were his uterine brothers. And Draupadi of pure

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fame fed her husbands and the Brahmanas, as if she was their mother; and last of all took her food herself. And the king himself wending towards the east, and Bhima, towards the south, and the twins, towards the west and the north, daily killed with bow in hand the deer of the forest, for the sake of meat. And it was that the Pandavas lived for five years in the woods of Kamyaka, in anxiety at the absence of Arjuna, and engaged all the while in study and prayers and sacrifices."

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Posted: 10 years ago
And the chief of the Kurus--the virtuous king Yudhishthira--maintained his brothers as if they were his sons, and his relatives as if they were his uterine brothers. And Draupadi of pure

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fame fed her husbands and the Brahmanas, as if she was their mother; and last of all took her food herself.

My love for this couple is now tenfold 😳 ideal King and Queen
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Posted: 10 years ago
When the general public remember Draupadi, they remember either sharp words or her non-existent laughter or her vengeful nature...

Nobody talks of this side to her...Was she any less of an ideal housewife, apart from being the Finance Minister?
Nobody talks of how she served everyone...took care of her husbands...
Amidst all her tantrums, she did everything that a dutiful wife n Queen should...yet if we ask a random Indian about Draupadi, she will be remembered as that talkative, bloodthirsty woman!!

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Posted: 10 years ago
That's just minor stuff Amrita, just words and superficial actions.
Just take a look at what she says to Yudhi about KARMA. Tell me you don't see the Gita in here.

Karmanyevadhikarasthe according to Panchali

It is seen, possessions are obtained from chance, as also from destiny Something being from destiny and something from chance, something is obtained by exertion. In the acquisition of his objects, there is no fourth cause in the case of man. Thus say those that are acquainted with truth and skilled in knowledge. If, however, God himself were not the giver of good and bad fruits, then amongst creatures there would not be any that was miserable. If the effect of former acts be a myth, then all purposes for which man would work should be successful. They, therefore, that regard the three alone (mentioned above) as the doors of all success and failure in the world, (without regarding the acts of former life), are dull and inert like the body itself. For all this, however, a person should act. This is the conclusion of Manu himself. The person that doth not act, certainly succumbeth, O Yudhishthira. The man of action in this world generally meeteth with success. The idle, however, never achieveth success. If success, becometh impossible, then should one seek to remove the difficulties that bar his way to success. And, O king, if a person worketh (hard), his debt (to the gods) is cancelled (whether he achieveth success or not). The person that is idle and lieth at his length, is overcome by adversity; while he that is active and skillful is sure to reap success and enjoy prosperity. Intelligent persons engaged in acts with confidence in themselves regard all who are diffident as doubting and unsuccessful. The confident and faithful, however, are regarded by them as successful. And this moment misery hath overtaken us. If, however, thou betakest to action, that misery will certainly be removed. If thou meetest failure, then that will furnish a proof unto thee and Vrikodara and Vivatsu and the twins (that ye are unable to snatch the kingdom from the foe). The acts of others, it is seen, are crowned with success. It is probable that ours also will be successful. How can one know beforehand what the consequence will be? Having exerted thyself thou wilt know what the fruit of thy exertion will be. The tiller tilleth with the plough the soil and soweth the seeds thereon. He then sitteth silent, for the clouds (after that) are the cause that would help the seeds to grow into plants. If however, the clouds favour him not, the tiller is absolved from all blame. He sayeth unto himself, 'What others do, I have done. If, notwithstanding this, I meet with failure, no blame can attach to me.' Thinking so, he containeth himself and never indulgeth in self-reproach. O Bharata, no one should despair saying, 'Oh, I am acting, yet success is not mine! For there are two other causes, besides exertion, towards success. Whether there be success or failure, there should be no despair, for success in acts dependeth upon the union; of many circumstances. If one important element is wanting, success doth not become commensurate, or doth not come at all. If however, no exertion is made, there can be no success. Nor is there anything to applaud in the absence of all exertion.
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Posted: 10 years ago
That is the problem Anu...
Most people know only about the superficial stuff...
How many people know about these dialogues?
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Posted: 10 years ago
Dear anu
While Ramayana was recited often in my house...my grand mom, grand dads were all vehemently against keeping Mahabharata at home saying reading or listening to it will cause clashes in the family

Whatever stories I heard were Arjuna the best student with great focus, no distraction with studies.
Karna the great danveer Draupadi is atikeshni and kulnashini

Then BRC came and it ended up reinforcing most of these impressions...

Some people I know don't even consider dury / dushy as evil...just fighting for their property the only way they can..

But Draupadi is pure evil..apparently everything wrong possible in a woman was in her

All my life I ve just heard don't leave your hair open..and don't laugh in front of men..or you will get Draupadi got.. Uuuggghhh
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Posted: 10 years ago
Adi
I hope you were being facetious.

Chronologically, Panchali's discourse with Yudhi comes way before Gita. For her pains, she got labeled a war monger. For saying the same thing 13 years later, her buddy became God.

I keep saying here that Panchali who forgave time and time again, Panchali who said this (my post) had to have more than personal revenge in mind.

She was assaulted first when 1) she was lost to servitude 2) when her status was lost by Jaydrath 3) when Keechak thought her to be without support.

She saw first hand what people who have no standing suffer at the hands of the powerful. I don't understand why her motive is not seen with a clearer eye and her personal sacrifice appreciated.

For me, she is the hero and heroine of MB. More than all of the men in the story.
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