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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lunza

And random comment - Anki looked so pretty!



Oh yes! She looked lovely!
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Posted: 11 years ago
Ankita and Sushant are sooo married to each other.
Cousins are staying over at their place!!!! I can imagine Ankita's mom and dad being cool about their live-in relationship but not the entire Indore-based Lokhande clan.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Anu u didnt write about yhmk epi ...ur views still
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Posted: 11 years ago
Guys, who are your favourite critics? Do you follow critic reviews?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: bonnefille

Ankita and Sushant are sooo married to each other.

Cousins are staying over at their place!!!! I can imagine Ankita's mom and dad being cool about their live-in relationship but not the entire Indore-based Lokhande clan.


The biggest giveaway is Anki's nani being cool about the entire thing ..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Guys, who are your favourite critics? Do you follow critic reviews?

rajeev masand ..Anupama chopra
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Guys, who are your favourite critics? Do you follow critic reviews?


I know yours is Mihir Fadnavis.

No favourites. I don't generally read movie reviews. I feel watching a movie is an experience...I want the story to unfold before my eyes. So reading critics reviews beforehand is a no no and after watching the film there is no point. But yes I am generally aware how a film has been rated by the critics. Critics have their own prejudices like us. They are fans of the "actors" and let them get away even if the performance is not as great as it is made out to be.

For KPC and SDR, I mostly read what the critics had to say about the performances. I was definitely curious to read that.

I read this one review of Raja Sen...and I liked what he wrote.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Interestingly, the cover story of HT's Sunday Brunch is about movie reviewing and critics...

PREVIEW LOUNGE
by Sarit Ray
11 May 2014
Hindustan Times (Delhi)

In a Bollywood-crazy country where everyone has an opinion, film experts talk about ratings, reviews and holding your own against opinionated masses

IT'S FRIDAY morning. Sunny Leone's latest film is out. And after playing Baby Doll for the two-hundredth time in two days, the RJs on air get down to reviewing' the movie.


RJ 1: "In a scene, Sunny is seen pleasuring herself...". "...she must have a lot of practice, no?" RJ 2 cuts in, and giggles till RJ 1 concludes with the serious proclamation: "I give the movie two stars." The verdict didn't make it to Ragini MMS 2' s hoardings or print ads. But the film's promoters didn't need to look hard to find praise. Today, it seems, everyone's two cents can translate into more than two stars. On more than a dozen websites, at-home reviewers hold forth on every major release, offering their assessment of 100-crore films, indie titles and everything in between. Bloggers, Twitter users and at least five of your Facebook friends (and mine) have decided that the world needs their judgement of this Friday's box office offerings.

So where does that leave India's popular critics, film journalists who have been assessing Bollywood films for a decade or more? Are their voices being drowned, or sharper than ever? And in an age where everyone's a superfan and no one else is allowed to have the last word, how are they standing by their own words? Brunch got some critics such as CNN-IBN's entertainment editor Rajeev Masand, TV host Anupama Chopra and Rediff 's film critic Raja Sen to talk about life on the job.

EVERYONE'S ON BOARD
For the most part, India's top critics seem happy about the rise in the number of opinions. "There are more voices now. And that's not a bad thing," concedes Masand, who has been reviewing films for over a decade. The ever-smiling critic is popular not just for his writing (and an entertaining magazine column where he spills industry secrets without naming a single name), but also his televised reviews of latest releases.
Masand says that the Internet has allowed for the formal style (which he admits had become "elitist, formal and, in effect, predictable") to be broken, with younger, more informal voices coming in. Most old-school critics would take a standard, serious approach (even if the analysis itself was sharp) - opening with a discussion on the plot or a scene perhaps. It is not uncommon, however, for a modern-day critic to present the entire review as a discussion he had with the liftman after watching the film. That's how critic Karan Anshuman wrote his entire review of Dhoom:3.
Or for someone to illustrate a review via an unabashedly funny stick-figure comic, as Sahil Rizwan (aka The Vigil Idiot) does to great popularity. His Dhoom:3 review,
for instance, had unnaturally-large-eared Aamir Khan twins, toy bikes, even a Christopher Nolan as well as a Batman.
Film critic and TV show host Anupama Chopra has done reviews for TV channels and several publications including the Hindustan Times. She also hosts the popular show, Front Row. She, too, feels that more voices can only be a good thing. "Movies are a subjective passion, and the more opinions, the better," says Chopra. "I don't think a critic is someone on a pedestal..."

DOWN TO EARTH
"Most critics don't know how to read a film and no one's sure what their credentials are"
KABIR KHAN, director of EK THA TIGER

The critic on a pedestal did exist, until recently. Film reviewer Mayank Shekhar says he's happy that the cult of the holier-than-thou critic is gone. "The problem starts when people, especially those from within the industry, start giving the reviewer more importance than you deserve," he says. "And once you get close to your subject, subconsciously, you may no longer say the things you might otherwise have."
Those on personal platforms like blogs and social media, on the other hand, are far less accountable. Kamaal R Khan (flop actor, but a hit online reviewer) has a video review of Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani on YouTube that is so vicious - he keeps alleging the director has daddy issues - that it's had over one lakh views. Pretentious Movie Reviews (two boys, one camera and a YouTube channel) rips apart movies that represent the worst of cinema (more on them at the end of this article).
"Every film gets at least one four-star review these days," Masand says. "Of course, who am I to say that I am a serious reviewer, and a certain radio jockey is not?" he says. But he says that filmmakers need to exercise a little more discretion about the standard, and the source of reviews they are quoting from. "Honestly, at the cost of sounding condescending, I'm not thrilled at being lumped with many of these reviewers," he says.

Raja Sen has been reviewing on an online platform for a decade. He says breaking free of print has one obvious benefit: word count. His standard review is 900 words - significantly more than what a critic tends to get in a newspaper - which allows him to delve deep into a nuanced film or slam a terrible one. But he says that it's becoming harder to establish credibility on the Internet. "So many blogs are keen to be dismissive just to get noticed," he points out.

THEM AND US
"It's not a film. It's a cartoon" ANUPAMA CHOPRA, in her review of JAI HO

Let's face it: There is sadistic pleasure in criticism. That's why reviewers love to sink their teeth into an especially bad film. In his review of Ishkq in Paris, Masand declares the leading man "as expressive as a slab of granite". "I didn't pay to watch this film, but I'd still like my
money back" RAJEEV MASAND on his review of DON

Perhaps the biggest change for any critic today is how their word is no longer the final word - at least if you scroll down to the comments section. Disagreed with a review? Why write an email to give the reviewer a piece of your mind when you can comment anonymously or tweet your abuse in 140 characters? "I've been abused so often that it's hard to pick a comment [that stands out]," says Anupama Chopra. After her review of Rowdy

Rathore, a comment read: "Watch the movie, change your review and apologige [sic] publicly to the viewers...". The worst reactions came after she gave Salman Khan's

Bodyguard a less-than-favourable review. "His fans went ballistic," Chopra recalls. "They posted physical threats on Twitter about what they would have done to me. It was pretty depressing."
She says she reads the comments on her online reviews and sees the tweets addressed to her, but never replies.

You can't get a critic and a filmmaker to agree. Even a selfadmitted masala film director like Rohit 100 crore' Shetty is quick to dismiss the worth of critical acclaim. "Shetty, who came on my show despite all my negative reviews, stated clearly that my reviews had no importance in his scheme of things," says Chopra. Dancer and director Prabhudheva, whose Rowdy Rathore earned only one star in Chopra's review also came on Chopra's show. "He said, Madam, I saw your review (I had given the film one star). Now, you dance and I will review it,'" Chopra recalls.

The responses from the film world illustrate both how little reviewers matter as well as how much they do. Masand says that after he gave a harsh review to Rowdy Rathore, the film's star Akshay Kumar "told me he doesn't want to talk. He said someone had read my review and cancelled their tickets to the show."

Mahesh Bhatt, another mass filmmaker, admits he's always had what he calls a "fiercely hostile relationship" with reviewers. "The critic has an opinion on films, but so does my maid," he states baldly. "And I care more about my maid's opinion, because she is a consumer of what I make."

Director Kabir Khan has made both niche and mass-appeal films. His Kabul Express, back in 2006, picked up a fair bit of critical appreciation. Then, he went on to make the Salman Khan-starrer Ek Tha Tiger - a product more made for box office returns. Khan believes that there are too many critics, many of them "self styled ones who rave and rant, and find their names up on billboards. Most don't know how to read a film and noone's sure what their credentials are. And they tend to see everything - small-budget films, mega-starrers - through the same prism. Soon, they will be telling how an edit should be done."

TWO STATES
"Amrita Rao plays a cow..." RAJA SEN in his review of VIVAAH

Several critics are now making films themselves. Raja Sen co-wrote the dialogue for Go
Goa Gone (2013) and says he is in discussion to direct something soon and Karan Anshuman is set to direct too. Kabir Khan is critical of reviewers turning directors: "Some only write reviews till they can become filmmakers themselves; or they are full of angst if they've had their scripts turned down. "

Sen says one needs to draw one's own boundaries as a film reviewer. He says he wouldn't review a film he's been involved in even slightly, or made by a person he's worked with. But Shekhar sees no conflict in being filmmaker and reviewer: "The director constructs, a reviewer deconstructs." Chopra is in a more challenging a position. She's married to director-producer Vidhu Vinod Chopra, so she has immediate family that's part of the industry she must critique.

Chopra doesn't review any film her husband is part of. "I know what bad reviews feel like," she admits. "But I will never be dishonest as to what I feel about a film." She isn't wary of upsetting her husband's colleagues either: : "We don't have any friends within the industry. So I've never been particularly traumatised by having to give a friend's film a bad review." However, that doesn't mean no one's ever pointed fingers. "A director told me that I was less than raving about his film because he was competition for my husband," she says.

RATINGS AND REWARDS
Of late, there has been a more serious allegation against film critics. In 2011, at a forum at the Mumbai Film Festival, writer-director Nikhil Advani answered "Yes" when asked if he knew of anyone in Bollywood who paid to get a favourable review of his/her film.

The book, Shooting Stars, by old-time film publicist Colin Pal talks about how they used to slip in money at press shows. They called it cab money'.
Sen feels people learn to not trust a review source that consistently inflates ratings. "I've been told by readers that a particular newspaper gives good ratings to practically every film, so they don't take it seriously," he says.

As more and more films are churned out by Bollywood, reviews will continue to be written, read, posted, shared aand slammed. Filmmakeers may nnot like thhem; Salman KKhan's boox office crredentials mmay not be diiminished by them. But when did reviews affect any of that anyway? Whatever form they do evolve into - meme reviews, listicles - they will continue the culture of critical thought.

The rage over roughly aimed and quickly taken selfies hasn't reduced the worth of a thoughtfully framed photograph. The same logic, one hopes, will hold for an intelligent criticism.

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No Tension, Just Pretension
by Amrah Ashraf
11 May 2014
Hindustan Times (Delhi)

Two comics are making a rocking, guffawing success of video reviews

ONE NIGHT I was watching an old Dharmendra movie and thought it would be cool to review films no one would," says Kanan Gill, 24-yearold stand-up comedian from Bangalore. So he, along with Biswa Kalyan Rath, an IIT graduateturned-stand-up-comedian, created video reviews of lesser-known (and even lesser appreciated) films and uploaded them to YouTube.


Three months and four reviews later, the boys behind Pretentious Movie Reviews are a YouTube sensation. Their reviews have drawn over a lakh viewers. The videos are full of hilarious comments about the hammy acting, cringeworthy CGI, the plot that trips on itself and the cheesy melodrama. They draw your attention to such gems as Shakti Kapoor referring to Viagra as vitamin sex (in Gunda) and how Hrithik saves Kareena's flying dad from a car accident (in
Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon).

"We are not critics," Gill says. "We bring out the points of contention in a funny way and the rest is left to the audience."
Their production is simple: Gill's SLR camera shoved into a cupboard facing a table and two chairs. No cameraman. They don't even bother with scripts, just a few talking points and a lot of improv. "But before shooting the review, we watch the movie at least 10 times." The rest of the magic is created on Gill's iMac. Editing takes 20 hours. These reviews work because the boys justify everything they say with examples. That and Gill's charm and Rath's straight-faced humour is probably what's catapulted them to popular ity so quickly.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks for the article bonne. Pretty interesting.

I don't decide to go watch a movie by reviews actually. I usually watch films in theatre if the film has my favourite, or great wom coupled with good reviews. Wom I guess is more important than critics rating cos many times critics like serious stuff, slow stuff which we might not like.

I read reviews of many critics before a film, biggest reason is to know the plot of the movie a little and see whether it excites you, hehe . Many times ifi really like a film, I go back and read reviews again to read the little things in the story which these people tend to notice and write about. I think I liked sdrmore after reading reviews cos they pointed out nuances which I might hv missed and helped understand the story more. I read queen's reviews too. Similarily for kahaani and tdp. It's like having a discussion which enhances ur owni
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Mihir, umm, its too soon to call him a favourite right now. But I.o read his reviews and wat I like is that he doesn't seem biased to any actor, PH or genre. HE stands on his own, and he never raises a film cos everyone is praising it. He didn't praise lakshmi or lootera. He praised Skse when everyone else said it was crap. You cannot go blindly by his reviews cos his taste is slightly different from the cine goer n he is very strict too. His opinions are unpredictable and seem honest though. Best part- he is willing to discuss it with others who hv a different opinion.

Anupama I think is a balanced critic. As in, she judges films according to genre, not according to wat she hates or likes. She is very sweet though.

There is one critic called rangan, he is good in respect to that he goes deeper into the story and characters so that is always interesting for me. I hv liked whatever I hv read till now.

Coming to the article, I think critics get very personal at times with demeaning stuff. Reviews of zanjeer, for example. They sometimes don't try to analyze films according to the genre. U cannot expect Oscar worthy stuff from a masala movie.

The filmmakers reaction to this is even more weird. They saya litany critics, but they are the ones who flaunt like hell when they get good reviews but no bo collections. U can't be that way. Best example is sonakshi. Hansal Mehta thanked all the critics who had not given him good ratings all these years and apologised to them. Then they rejoiced in the glory of the critics praise. So as soon as a critic gives u gud ratings they becum gud? Doesn't work that way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Besides Karan, Divyanka too seems to have joined Ekta's group.

Why is that Ankita never got into Ekta's inner circle despite being the face of one of her most successful shows? But I don't think that being friends with Ekta is much of help in one's career. Its been a long time since Aditi was part of a serial. How does she manages to have such a glamorous lifestyle when she has been out of work for so long?

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