Saraswatichandra, Film and Form.

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Introduction:

Film Form asks you to seriously think about film/tv, as seriously as you would about literature. But why seriously think about it, at all? Many people, don't. We go to movies/watch tv to be entertained, to kill time, to be scared and grossed out, to have something to discuss afterwards. Outside of a film studies course, we rarely hear/see people engaged in a discussion of films/tv that goes much deeper than plot or characters.

The reason that attention must be paid to film is that most of us get our stories - our narratives and myths - from it, or from its close cousin, television. From late nineteenth century onwards, people have turned to film/tv as entertainment, escape and education - as an affirmation of the way they live or think they ought to live their lives. But even if film/tv were "only" entertainment, it would be important to find out how it works. Why does it entertain us? Why do we need to be entertained? Film/tv is part of world politics and national policy. Some governments support filmmakers and television producers as a means to express their national culture to the world.

All nations understand the power of film and television to influence their people, to propagandize values, and ideologies; discussions that we engage in whilst discussing each episode lately, but mostly, here, we will talk about the form - the way episodes are put together so that we, as viewers, understand what they are attempting to tell us and how they do so. We will come to this from the perspective of textuality - studying the episode itself and how all its parts work - which makes up a large, coherent construction of meaningful and interrelated elements that we can analyze - a text that we can read.

As Arshi has stated, let us all begin a new journey and gain a new appreciation, formulate an even nuanced critique of what we watch compulsively, helplessly, daily. One thing I promise, is that after this, as you become a part of this journey, you won't be able look at Saraswatichandra or ANY film or television show, in the same way. Ever again.

In effect, this journey will mark the end of your film/television 'innocence'. This is an invitation to discover a world in which nothing is simple, nothing is "just there," and nothing can be dismissed without, at least, your being conscious that dismissal has consequences.

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Presenting... "SARASWATICHANDRA, Film and Form" - Tutorial One 🥳

Here are some terms that people ought to be well-versed with, when looking at episode from a filmmaking perspective.

Note: Some of these may be basic, but they are all fundamentals, that a film student needs to be really clear on. I've provided the following in alphabetical & as a glossary, for easy ref.

Auteur: French term for a film director who places a personal style on his or her work. SLB is an auteur, a director/producer with a very strong and distinctive film style... Also, the fact that Nandy pointed out previously some hallmarks of an Arshad Khan episode, or that in the last CB, Twila recognised the promo as being an 'Arshad Khan direction' would make AK, an auteur too.

Backlighting: Light behind the characters that set them off from the background.

Blue screen: Characters are photographed against a blue screen. The background is photographed or digitally rendered separately. The two or more parts are then joined digitally or photographically - the blue background is dropped out - to create the illusion of a complete image. Eg, SC Title Card.

Chiaroscuro: A term from Art History, refers to the use of deep shadows in the mise-en-scene.

Cinematographer (Director of Photography, DOP): Working with the director, the DOP lights the scene, chooses the appropriate lenses and film stock, and therefore carries a large responsibility for determining the look of a film/work.

Close-up: The actor's face fills the screen. Also Medium Close-up where the actor is seen from the upper torso.

Coding: Conventions that telegraph a lot of information economically, as in older films (Western) where the way a coffee cup was held or a cigarette smoked (Humphrey Bogart esp) told the audience much about a character.

Composition: The arrangement of characters and surroundings within the boundaries of the screen frame.

Continuity style/Continuity Editing: Smooth, seamless editing that links shots so that the cuts appear invisible to the viewer.

Coverage: Filming enough variations of a scene to allow the editor to put it together with perfect continuity.

Cross-cutting: Editing shots, representing different places, to give the illusion of simultaneity. Also called "parallel editing."

Deep Focus: In deep-focus cinematography, all objects from front to rear of the composition are in sharp focus.

Deep Space: Is part of the mise-en-scene placing significant actors/props in different planes of the picture.

Direct Cut: One shot follows another without any optical transition like a dissolve.

Dissolve: One shot fades out and another fades in. If the two occur simultaneously, and we see one shot fading out as the other fades in, we have a lap dissolve.

Dolly: An aparatus that holds the camera but can, itself, move in, out, or from side to side. A 'dolly-in' or 'dolly-out' refers to a movement towards or away from a figure.

Editing: The process of cutting film footage and assembling the pieces into an expressive, narrative structure.

Editor: The person who assembles the shots of a film into its final shape.

Establishing Shot: Before a cutting pattern can begin, there must be a shot that establishes the whole space. Examples in SC, typically wide opening shots of BD mansion and VC haveli.

Eye-line Match (Theory): Continuity editing dictates that, if a character is looking in a certain direction in one shot, she should be looking in the same direction in the following shot. This is crucial in the over-the-shoulder pattern, where the characters must seem to be looking at one another (even if both actors are not physically present at the same time when the shots are made). *SC effs with this ALOT.

Eye-line Match (Technique): Based on the premise that the audience will want to see what the character on-screen is seeing. The eye-line match begins with a character looking at something off-screen, followed by a cut to the object/person that he or she is looking at.

Fill Lighting: Lights that fill the screen, creating accents, removing or adding shadow.

Flashback: When we see something a character remembers.

Frame: The borders of the screen that, along with the composition of the shot, determine the limits of what we see.

High-Key Lighting: Creates a bright, evenly lit scene.

Image Track: As opposed to the soundtrack, the series of images that contain the film's visual content.

Jump Cut: The result of editing out unnecessary transitions so that continuity is replaced by rapid changes in space.

Key Light: The main overhead light that lights the faces and is reflected in the eyes.

Long Shot: Typically shows nearly the entire object/human figure.

Long Takes: A shot that lasts a long time without a cut. In an average film, shots last six to nine seconds. A long take may last sixty seconds or more and contain rich narrative and visual information.

Medium Close-up: Character is shown from the shoulders up.

Medium Shot: Character is shown from the waist up.

Mise-en-scene: The use of space within the frame: the placement of actors and props, the relationship of the camera to the space in front of it, camera movement, the use of color or black and white, lighting, the size of the screen frame itself. *Single most important concept in Film Form.

Mismatched Cut: The shots on either sides of the cut don't match - the movement may be out of sync, the characters may be in the wrong place etc *A hallmark of SO's SC.

Montage: A style of editing that juxtaposes shots to build dramatic tension.

Narrative: The construction of a film's story.

One-shot: A shot in which a single character is shown, often inserted into the over-the-shoulder cutting pattern.

Over-the-shoulder Cutting Pattern: A dialogue sequence (two people talking to each other) begins with a two-shot of the participants and then proceeds to cut from over the shoulder of one speaker to over the shoulder of the other. Occasionally a shot of one of the participants talking or listening will be cut into the pattern.

Pan: The camera pivots on its tripod or dolly, side to side.

Point-of-view: Simply, the representation of what a character sees. But it also refers to the dominant "voice" of the film, the teller of the tale, similar to third-person pov in fiction.

Process shot: Any shot, some of whose elements are added optically or digitally, after the initial shot is made.

Production Designer: Conceives and elaborates the setting's rooms and exteriors that help give a film its visual texture.

Reverse Shot: Cutting to the opposite side of the previous shot. In a dialogue scene, a reverse shot occurs when a cut is made from over the shoulder of one character to over the shoulder of the other character. If a character is seen looking at something, and a cut is made to what she is looking at, that is a reverse shot.

Room Tone: A sound effect that creates ambient sounds of people talking in the background of an enclosed space.

Scene: A unit of action or a segment of a story.

Sequence: A related series of scenes or shots.

Shallow Focus: Figures in foreground are in focus; background is very soft.

Shot: An unedited, or uncut, length of film.

Shot/Reverse Shot: Any pair of shots in which the second shot reveals what is on the other side of a previous shot. If, for example, the first shot is of the kamarbandh, and the second shot is Saras looking at something, the character constitues the reverse shot and we assume that Saras is looking at the kamarbandh. *This is an editing concept and distinct from SRS/Playing Off which we have discussed before.

Suture Effect: A critical theory that addresses the way a viewer is 'stitched' into the film's narrative. 'Affect'. Something that SC, at present, lacks hugely.

Take: A shot made during the production of a film. A scene in a film is the result of editorial choices made from many different takes. A process that Behind the Scenes from SBS etc strive to bring to the viewers.

Three-point lighting: The basic lighting pattern of key light for the face, back light to set the figure from the background, and fill light to create the appropriate shadow and bright spots in the frame.

Track: The camera moves on a transport mechanism like a tripod or dolly. This mechanism is put on rails so that the camera will move smoothly. A lateral track moves horizontally. The result is a tracking shot.

Two-Shot: A shot composed of two people.

Verisimilitude: Is the quality of appearing true and real. It refers to the believability of a story/narrative (fictional or non-fictional) - the extent to which it appears plausible and reflects aspects of human life and choices.

World Tone: A sound effect of traffic and other street sounds to accompany a sequence taking place outside.

Zoom: Changing the focal length of lenses by moving them while the camera is stationary creating the impression of movement from near to far or the reverse.
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Homework One 😃:

When we look at the episode from a film form or technical pov, GR and JW take a back seat. Our focus will be more on the production designers, the sound engineers, the director, cinematographer etc. Since we are appreciating/critiquing their 'craft', it is important that we know and address them by name. Hence, those who are able to read the credits, if someone can please make notes of all the names and their roles within SC, and share it with us, it will be much appreciated. Also, someone needs to keep a track of any changes in the credits and alert us as to the same. For now, however, the last episode title credits will suffice. Thank you 😳

Homework Two 😃:

Those who are familiar with AK's direction (from IPKKND etc), please post some aspects that make up his personal style as an director/auteur. How has AK put his 'stamp' on SC?
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The Three Principles of Continuity Editing:

1. Match on Action - Is a technique used in film editing. It is a cut that connects two different views of the same action, thereby creating a flow, and avoiding disruption. Consists of two shots - a character finishes off his action in the second shot that he started in the first shot.

2. Shot/Reverse Shot - Editing technique most commonly used in conversations. One character is shown looking at another (off-screen, mainly) and the other character is shown looking at the first. Since characters are placed at opposites (direction-wise), the audience believes they are looking at each other.

3. 180 Degree Rule - This concerns the spatial relationship between one character and another character or object in a scene and enables the viewer to visually connect and assume a pov for the scene. An imaginary line (termed 'Axis') connects the two characters/object. The camera stays on one side of the 'Axis' for every shot in the scene. This means the first character will always be framed right of the second, who is always framed left of the first. If camera goes over this 'Axis' it is called 'jumping/crossing the line.'
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Just bookmarking...😊
Credits from Friday, September 27

Story - Ved Raj, Abhijit Sinha

Screenplay/Dialogue - Shilpa DeMello, Shruti Vaidya Bhusari

Exec. Producers (SP) - Radhika Vohra, Sakhi Banerjee

Creative Team - Megha Sharma, Shaabiya Ravi Waaliya

Director of Photography - Arjun Rao (until Oct 4, 2013)
- Sandeep Yadav (from Oct 7, 2013)


Director- Arshad Khan


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An Example of 'Mise-en-scene Reading'; Saraswatichandra Promo, September 24th.

Starts off with a Medium Shot (MS, from waist up) of Pramad and Kumud. The shot composition, gives an ambience of romance, as well as illumination and the breaking of illusions. Notice the use of chiaroscuro, the background is enveloped in shadows. Why? Look to the placement of characters, Pramad is 'leading' Kumud, not by hand, but by a 'push'... The darkness and shadows symbolises, where Pramad has come from, Pramad's 'essence' - dark and evil. He is taking Kumud towards the light, but it is a light encased in 'glass'... Glass breaks, glass pierces, and glass hurts. Also the camera pans, from right to left. A sweeping effect, kind of like when someone is drowsy and can accidentally or not, get hurt/into trouble. All this means Kumud is in for a rude shock.

Pramad 'leads' Kumud, she is blindfolded, not by any cloth etc, but by Pramad's palm. This suggests that she will let him in, to the point that he will lead, and she will follow. Not by compulsion, but by volition. Once he takes off his palm, the shot tightens... Moving from a MS to a Medium Close-up (MCU, from shoulders up), becoming further intimate. This outlines the next part of Pramad's plan. Once he has Kumud trusting him enough that she will allow him to lead her, blindfolded (i.e. Kumud may/will take Pramad's side over Saras/BD), and then he will try to engage Kumud 'as a husband'... Note, when the 'blindfold' first is 'taken off' Kumud appears mesmerized by the 'light' that Pramad has led her to (meaning, he will very likely spin her a yarn) and then she gets distracted by the 'gold', representing her marriage. This is a two-pronged strategy employed on Kumud (the light and the gold)... Once Pramad tries to make moves on her, Kumud is going to be 'flustered/taken in' to the point where she will nearly 'capitulate'... Notice that she raises her hand by herself, accepting Pramad's 'token' to be her husband. But we never really see, right there, if Pramad succeeds in that respect.

Because the foreground blurs and the background comes in focus (Saras, MS, then MCU)... He is standing behind 'glass' (again break, pierce, hurt) that obscures somewhat the doorway... He cannot go to Kumud, and Kumud is unaware of him. Suggests possible Saras/Kumud tension. He stares in shock/confusion and the voice-over explains his pov: Saras suspects but he is unsure as to whether Pramad is really sincere or not. This may mean also, that he lacks evidence and Kumud's support. Notice, he is placed all alone, while they are a 'couple'. Saras' background is also in contrast. It is evenly lighted, meaning Saras is on the level, and white, bright, because that is his essence: pure. And there, after Saras shares his suspicions, then only we see that Kumud accepts Pramad as husband via the token 'gold'. This means, Kumud goes against Saras' better judgement. And as she does, that very moment, Saras leaves from there. Maybe to gather evidence as to Pramad's true face or leave Kumud to her 'happy' fate.

Then there is a dissolve, to enable continuty editing and we see a MCU Saras in a car. Then a Close-up (CU) Saras as he remembers in flashback, what he saw, so recently in fact that the flashback is still in colour. The CU on Saras at this point, internalises him. Note, Kumud, is never in CU, which suggests the track will not show her in a dilemma, she will blindly believe. Only Saras will not and he may take active measures against it, alienating Kumud. Then we have an example of Parallel Editing to accomodate in the frame, Pramad and Saras both in cars. Both placed opposite to each other and both backlighted, one recedes into background as the other goes into sharp focus. Rivals. This is to highlight that this is a battle between the two men only, that Kumud is a prop/collateral damage. And the fact that their ways are opposite, but also note that they are so placed, that they can be heading for a full-frontal collision, in future. Pramad postures and flaunts his triumph, his lines suggest that he knows Navin is Saras, and Saras response to him acknowledges that he knows Pramad does and he doesn't give an eff. That cuts Pramad's triumph short... The reaction he wanted from Saras he is not getting. Saras purposefully looks away, straight, as though Pramad ain't worth his time anymore and a CU of Saras, as he says the last line declares that this is WAR.

Overall thoughts:

Promo overall is dark and ominous, not romantic. The 'romance' is all for Kumud's benefit. This is achieved primarily through mise-en-scene: props, lighting and camera shots. The use of chiaroscuro, which hinders Kumud from seeing beyond what Pramad wants her to see, parallel editing which pits Saras and Pramad as rivals. And only Saras in CU which suggests that he will be the only one in this whole track that the viewers will relate to. Kumud will be relegated to a prop only. And Pramad will not go beyond a caricature. This also fortells a possible Saras-Kumud 'break'. And the rain suggests, that when Saras leaves, he will do so under explosive circumstances, or if not, then he will bring back explosive news, to shatter the glass, which encased Kumud's light.

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Originally posted by: -Ivy-

An Example of 'Mise-en-scene Reading'; Saraswatichandra Promo, September 24th.


Starts off with a Medium Shot (MS, from waist up) of Pramad and Kumud. The shot composition, gives an ambience of romance, as well as illumination and the breaking of illusions. Notice the use of chiaroscuro, the background is enveloped in shadows. Why? Look to the placement of characters, Pramad is 'leading' Kumud, not by hand, but by a 'push'... The darkness and shadows symbolises, where Pramad has come from, Pramad's 'essence' - dark and evil. He is taking Kumud towards the light, but it is a light encased in 'glass'... Glass breaks, glass pierces, and glass hurts. Also the camera pans, from right to left. A sweeping effect, kind of like when someone is drowsy and can accidentally or not, get hurt/into trouble. All this means Kumud is in for a rude shock.

Pramad 'leads' Kumud, she is blindfolded, not by any cloth etc, but by Pramad's palm. This suggests that she will let him in, to the point that he will lead, and she will follow. Not by compulsion, but by volition. Once he takes off his palm, the shot tightens... Moving from a MS to a Medium Close-up (MCU, from shoulders up), becoming further intimate. This outlines the next part of Pramad's plan. Once he has Kumud trusting him enough that she will allow him to lead her, blindfolded (i.e. Kumud may/will take Pramad's side over Saras/BD), and then he will try to engage Kumud 'as a husband'... Note, when the 'blindfold' first is 'taken off' Kumud appears mesmerized by the 'light' that Pramad has led her to (meaning, he will very likely spin her a yarn) and then she gets distracted by the 'gold', representing her marriage. This is a two-pronged strategy employed on Kumud (the light and the gold)... Once Pramad tries to make moves on her, Kumud is going to be 'flustered/taken in' to the point where she will nearly 'capitulate'... Notice that she raises her hand by herself, accepting Pramad's 'token' to be her husband. But we never really see, right there, if Pramad succeeds in that respect.

Because the foreground blurs and the background comes in focus (Saras, MS, then MCU)... He is standing behind 'glass' (again break, pierce, hurt) that obscures somewhat the doorway... He cannot go to Kumud, and Kumud is unaware of him. Suggests possible Saras/Kumud tension. He stares in shock/confusion and the voice-over explains his pov: Saras suspects but he is unsure as to whether Pramad is really sincere or not. This may mean also, that he lacks evidence and Kumud's support. Notice, he is placed all alone, while they are a 'couple'. Saras' background is also in contrast. It is evenly lighted, meaning Saras is on the level, and white, bright, because that is his essence: pure. And there, after Saras shares his suspicions, then only we see that Kumud accepts Pramad as husband via the token 'gold'. This means, Kumud goes against Saras' better judgement. And as she does, that very moment, Saras leaves from there. Maybe to gather evidence as to Pramad's true face or leave Kumud to her 'happy' fate.

Then there is a dissolve, to enable continuty editing and we see a MCU Saras in a car. Then a Close-up (CU) Saras as he remembers in flashback, what he saw, so recently in fact that the flashback is still in colour. The CU on Saras at this point, internalises him. Note, Kumud, is never in CU, which suggests the track will not show her in a dilemma, she will blindly believe. Only Saras will not and he may take active measures against it, alienating Kumud. Then we have an example of Parallel Editing to accomodate in the frame, Pramad and Saras both in cars. Both placed opposite to each other and both backlighted, one recedes into background as the other goes into sharp focus. Rivals. This is to highlight that this is a battle between the two men only, that Kumud is a prop/collateral damage. And the fact that their ways are opposite, but also note that they are so placed, that they can be heading for a full-frontal collision, in future. Pramad postures and flaunts his triumph, his lines suggest that he knows Navin is Saras, and Saras response to him acknowledges that he knows Pramad does and he doesn't give an eff. That cuts Pramad's triumph short... The reaction he wanted from Saras he is not getting. Saras purposefully looks away, straight, as though Pramad ain't worth his time anymore and a CU of Saras, as he says the last line declares that this is WAR.

Overall thoughts:

Promo overall is dark and ominous, not romantic. The 'romance' is all for Kumud's benefit. This is achieved primarily through mise-en-scene: props, lighting and camera shots. The use of chiaroscuro, which hinders Kumud from seeing beyond what Pramad wants her to see, parallel editing which pits Saras and Pramad as rivals. And only Saras in CU which suggests that he will be the only one in this whole track that the viewers will relate to. Kumud will be relegated to a prop only. And Pramad will not go beyond a caricature. This also fortells a possible Saras-Kumud 'break'. And the rain suggests, that when Saras leaves, he will do so under explosive circumstances, or if not, then he will bring back explosive news, to shatter the glass, which encased Kumud's light.



Ivy-

Brilliant!
This thread I will happily be a student of and absorb.

Many Happy Returns of the Day on the rechristening of your username!

@Red Bold-
- For my better understanding, I have taken the liberty of highlighting the outcomes of the analysis which precedes the text.
- Makes it easy for me to zoom in to the intent of what the director wants to get depicted at each stage of the scene...after which I can read the alaysis preceding it to understand how they link up together.
- Also a quick scan of the highlighted text provides the flow of the entire picture which the director planned to depict through the scene.
- This helps me to remember the cause and effect better...

Trust this is an OK approach...

This is almost like a detective novel...you can predict the outcomes just by this analysis.

Two Questions . might seem silly but please provide for the fact that I am a layman:
1) How much does the bias / perception / preference of the person doing this analysis effect the interpretation of the scene elements before the conclusion is arrived?

i.e. Will a seperate person interpret the same elements and come to the same conclusion...or because say you know the background / where Pramad is coming from etc. you are concluding it a particular way and another person will come to an entirely different conclusion ...for e.g. Pramad as good and Saras as the Kabab Mein Haddi

2) Do all directors actively go through this process of analysis and then set up the scene always?
Or is there a sort of a shortcut menu for e.g. dilemma depiction by option #1, #2 from a set of options all depicting dilemmas



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Ivy-

Brilliant!
This thread I will happily be a student of and absorb.

Many Happy Returns of the Day on the rechristening of your username!

@Red Bold-
- For my better understanding, I have taken the liberty of highlighting the outcomes of the analysis which precedes the text.
- Makes it easy for me to zoom in to the intent of what the director wants to get depicted at each stage of the scene...after which I can read the alaysis preceding it to understand how they link up together.
- Also a quick scan of the highlighted text provides the flow of the entire picture which the director planned to depict through the scene.
- This helps me to remember the cause and effect better...

Trust this is an OK approach...

This is almost like a detective novel...you can predict the outcomes just by this analysis.

Two Questions . might seem silly but please provide for the fact that I am a layman:
1) How much does the bias / perception / preference of the person doing this analysis effect the interpretation of the scene elements before the conclusion is arrived?

i.e. Will a seperate person interpret the same elements and come to the same conclusion...or because say you know the background / where Pramad is coming from etc. you are concluding it a particular way and another person will come to an entirely different conclusion ...for e.g. Pramad as good and Saras as the Kabab Mein Haddi

2) Do all directors actively go through this process of analysis and then set up the scene always?
Or is there a sort of a shortcut menu for e.g. dilemma depiction by option #1, #2 from a set of options all depicting dilemmas


Hgg bhai, thank you to you, for suggesting 'Ivy' in the first place 😳

The highlighting bit is a good approach. Makes it more accessible. I tend to forget that, because this is something that I'm used to, but it is new for others... So thank you 👍🏼

And I welcome questions because this is a 'refresher' for me, so if I've missed something then questions can always bring that out.

To answer:

1) Every interpretation/analysis has its roots in subjectivity. But since the work in question is in-progress, meaning episodic, the scope for a non-biased interpretation diminishes greatly. Since this is a promo, yet to be played out in full, my bias will only stretch to three elements that Saras - Good, Pramad - Evil, Kumud - Fool. But even if I were coming to it, 'cold' not an SC viewer and maybe just caught it on TV someday, I may get 'taken in' by the ambience that is created at first, but then as we near the end, Pramad's lines are quite telling. It classifies him as 'antagonist' and thus, commonsense dictates that the one he opposes must be the protagonist and then I go 'Aha!'... The promo starts off as 'grey' but then sharply defines into black and white, good and evil, sensible and stupid, love and marriage, taboo and sham. That being said, for a film, bias plays a great role. That is why sometimes we may agree with the reviewers piece and go see the film and then realise his subjective interpretation did not really match our own.

Re (i.e.): I'm pretty sure Hgg bhai that the analysis will not differ. There are markers in place, that shroud into suspicion Pramad intentions (chiaroscuro, used in German Expressionist films), Kumud's lack of sensible judgement (blindfold), Saras' confusion (voiceover that aligns us with him, and CU, that internalises him, invites us to his side)... Plus Pramad's words at the end. The promo uses stock tropes and techniques, so if someone with technical knowledge analyses this, they may differ on the finer points, example, may add or subtract significance of props (on a personal or cultural basis), but will essentially concur the same.

2) A good director, would. Always. I'm pretty sure the promo was well thought at conception time. As for SC episodes, depends on the director Hgg bhai, Arvind Babbal would have. He had a very steady, precise sense of direction. AK might think more about the romantic scenes, his forte. You can always ascertain by 'reading' a scene to check if it was analysed before shooting. The reading should make sense and it should either fit as the sum of a whole, or carry the possibility of being 'fitted' at a future point in time.

This would mean, there is no 'short cut' menu as such, but there are props, stock camera techniques and placement of characters that when juxtaposed together, mean something in the technical canon, and essentially can give a standard reading of scene/shot/sequence always.

That being said, of course, there is always 'direction-by-numbers' which essentially copy-pastes with no real/true vision or personal stamp, and makes a consistent reading v difficult.

I hope that made sense, Hgg bhai. I'm a bit rusty myself 😳

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Got it!

So its like you as viewer connecting the dots of each stage of the scene...
with each dot completing the incremental 'sense' of the scene and the message or context the director getting built up as the scene progresses.

And individual perceptions causing a slight variance...but the core message remaining true ...

I saw the promo again and realised that irrespective of any starting point I selected...for e.g. Pramad as Saras by intention...by the time I reach the end...I could only come to the same conclusion..
- Pramad has something up his sleeve
- it has to do something with Kumud
- it is something not good for Kumud
- Saras is on to him
- it is a personal fight between Saras and Pramad
- Pramad is cuarrently winning
- Yet saras is unperturbed at the tactical winning by Pramad
- Game On

Kumud was turning out as either unaware or in love with Pramad or resentful of Saras in the scenarios...

Which is also cool...and in line with what the director wants to convey...
that this is now between saras and pramad...with kumud as the trophy or prop...

Which brings us to one inference...and question

Does this mean going forward the director has taken this to the next level...IN LINE with the original intent of the show being about the journey of saraswatichandra the man?

Is it the director Arshad Khan ...who by some accounts (I havent seen his work at IPK1 was top rate) who is trying to elevate the game and level while still within the broad TRP binds put in place by SP?

And one more question... :-)

Which comes first in a TV show?...the directors vision or the writers?...meaning if the director really wishes to elevate the story..does he indicate his intent to the writer who then writes the corresponding scene or does he takes a writers written scene and then tries to interpret and salvage it to the best of his ability and intent...a.k.a. is he an active player in defining the core narrative or a passive playe


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Originally posted by: hotdogg



Which brings us to one inference...and question

Does this mean going forward the director has taken this to the next level...IN LINE with the original intent of the show being about the journey of saraswatichandra the man?

Is it the director Arshad Khan ...who by some accounts (I havent seen his work at IPK1 was top rate) who is trying to elevate the game and level while still within the broad TRP binds put in place by SP?

And one more question... :-)

Which comes first in a TV show?...the directors vision or the writers?...meaning if the director really wishes to elevate the story..does he indicate his intent to the writer who then writes the corresponding scene or does he takes a writers written scene and then tries to interpret and salvage it to the best of his ability and intent...a.k.a. is he an active player in defining the core narrative or a passive playe


You got it. Hgg bhai! 👍🏼

Also, you ask very incisive questions 👏 I'm glad because it gets me thinking 😳 Both your questions kind of lead into each other, too...

Bold One: A lot of us would hope so, and the promo even hints at it, he leaves, he's unperturbed at Pramad's gloating, shuts him up and the ending shot, trumpets that, most definitively, his bg and 'SARASWATICHANDRA, the man'... 🥳

BUT

Where would the spoilers 'insert' in at this point? Would Kumud still 'drag' him back, where would Kusum fit? One thing is certain that to see again, 'the MAN' Saras, a 'break' with Kumud is downright necessary. The promo encompasses a lot in those thirty seconds but a track stretching for at least 7-10 episodes, can meander unnecesarily, butcher characters, eschew logic and will dilute a lot of that promised impact. However, Saras' journey can only happen once the 'break' occurs. But then, the CV's are quite sadistic, what if, in that gap they 'insert' Kusum?

Bold Two: The writers, unfortunately Hgg bhai, whose product gets rubber-stamped each month by SP itself. Then the dialogue writers do their bit, which the director may/may not have a say in and last the director, who needs to work with the product provided. Only a very strong and distinctive director can leave his 'stamp'. That is why MG did not even register on the radar... AK can modify dialogues but not the script, and certainly not a SP approved one. Under SLB, the final say rested with him only, but I suspect Sphere is more than happy to let SP call the shots. AK is doing his best thus, and still he has a wide latitude to interpret scene and 'impress upon' his vision which the actors execute. As mentioned previously, this too carries the potential for failure, as sometimes actors falter in cues, and time crunch means scenes cannot be reshot, or multiple takes for a scene is not feasible. Simply put, AK is retained and can be replaced. The main CV's are in-house (with SO).
Edited by -Ivy- - 12 years ago

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