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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: axeion

Smita ji..u r influenced by Nitz He is a psycho, not just in movies but in real life too

The movie was a stupid movie, hero gets a job in US so the parents want him to get married before he leaves. Hero says find a girl, i'll marry and ends up not seeing her pic till the day of the wedding. Heroine also says..agar woh nahi dekhega then why shld i..finally they see each other on shaadi ka mandap after "jilakara bellam" is over..thats a tradition is telugu weddings that declares u man n wife...but suddenly villain comes n kidnaps the girl...he is a psycho from her coll, and the chase begins...finally it ends with a happy ending 😡



Axeion ji I like him as much as u like him..... I was just being diplomatic when u told about him.

Wow, y do I always stumble upon people who happen to be a relative or friend of Allu Arjun family! ... Last time I met a guy from Hyd in some convention and while talking he asked me whether I liked Arjun's movie Arya... I said that Arjun is a pathetic actor and bla bla bla... none of the comments were good. He gave an evil look and said that he was a close friend of Arjun's elder brother... 😕. Axeion ji I was just trying to be diplomatic when u spoke about him. I agree he is a good dancer but that's just it.... I wouldn't have bothered to watch that movie if u had not misguided me 😡

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Not having read the book, I'd answer it this way:
The way I see it, terrorism is more of an ideological problem... I think, it will persist irrespective of education and amenities.
Well-educated people can be indoctrinated, and it is practically impossible to raise the standard of life in backward regions to the same level as the developed world (where terrorism, in its current stereotype of suicide bombers, etc. is not visible). And, actually it all depends on what is classed as terrorism. There are fundamentalists and hard-liners in every society...

We often hear that terrorists are made because of disparities meted out to them by society/destiny/whatever... If this is true, then terrorism can never be completely eradicated. I think, disparity is the nature of human existence. There will always be winners and losers; there will always be people in every rank and scale who have been wronged and are vulnerable to violent ideologies.

So, what needs to be done is for education to adopt an ideological dimension. Killing the virtuous/sinners should be thoroughly discouraged, especially as an act of retribution or for political statements. Education is a suitable way of achieving it, but teaching children how to read, write or count probably doesn't sensitise them to the benefits of peace.
And, then again, on the other hand... if children are taught the doctrine of non-violence, this might be considered propaganda; and we'll again be wondering whether that is ethical or not... (It'll be the opposite of Krishna telling Arjun to fight...)



I am just at the 5th chapter and till now there has been no mention of terrorism.Its just that people mention poverty and lack of education as a cause for terrorism.
So I thought the question was valid

But agree Whole heartedly with you Blot ji...Just look at the student who committed Suicide for the Telangana issue or the kids who had burned themselves during the mandal era..weren't they educated.They knew how to read /Write and do arithemetic..something that makes them literate according to the state.But they still decided to do waht they did.
At that particular age you are fairly impressionable and arrogant about your infallibility to fall for ideas like that.
I don't think there is a solution to terrorism either...but violence cannot be completely ruled out.We need to have a multi pronged approach for a solution.


Originally posted by: Xserial_queenX


I have heard this debate many times before. My two history teachers always discuss whether or not terrorism is a political problem rather than a education one. One teacher believes that ignorance leads to these ideas about how violence will solve everything while my other teacher believes that the people who choose to be terrorists get an education so they can accomplish their goals better.

I personally feel that it's a problem of ignorance. I think people who are uneducated get brainwashed by others, thus end up feeling a strong emotion towards the subject and want to do what's "right" as their leader says.

Hmm sorry if my answer is confusing 😕



Your answer does make sense...but that is one aspect of it.
The foot soldiers..The guys who blow themselves up or ram a plane into a building can be labeled as ignorant or misguided fools.
Example one of the terrorists in 26/11 didn't know how to use a tap(according one of the survivors)..When I heard that ..I didn't know whether to feel sorry for him or mad at him.

But their controllers and the people who planned this whole event did know better .

I think it is is pride..This belief ..that their way is the right way..their belief system is the best and their ideas have the most merit ..may be a sense of victim hood and a hope of bringing back past glory


Originally posted by: pinkisluv91


Terrorism can be partially solved through a better education and amenities. I agree, but it can't be fully solved. It's a problem that can't be solved.

Most terrorists are depressed people who want to kill themselves and everyone else and so they do these violent acts and sometimes end up dying themselves. They don't care about their life. If they were educated they would probably understand that it would be pointless to kill others and themselves for no reason and that life is valuable. If they had better lives and better amenities they wouldn't think of doing all these acts:)

Like I said I can't understand terrorism at all. It's illogical to me.



Pinks...tht almost sounds like my friends "great depression" answer 😆.

It would be quiet easy to dismiss it like that,but if things were that simple..we would never have had a murder or a war.
Sometimes violence is necessary.

Edited by Veritas - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nitz17


Axeion ji I like him as much as u like him..... I was just being diplomatic when u told about him.

Wow, y do I always stumble upon people who happen to be a relative or friend of Allu Arjun family! ... Last time I met a guy from Hyd in some convention and while talking he asked me whether I liked Arjun's movie Arya... I said that Arjun is a pathetic actor and bla bla bla... none of the comments were good. He gave an evil look and said that he was a close friend of Arjun's elder brother... 😕. Axeion ji I was just trying to be diplomatic when u spoke about him. I agree he is a good dancer but that's just it.... I wouldn't have bothered to watch that movie if u had not misguided me 😡

See this is what u get when u try to be diplomatic. I did tell u that I support Mr.Nitz's opinion abt him. And stumbling upon his relatives 😆 we can't help it...for one it's all very complicated and he is not the only one I am related to..there are many more in the industry it's a bad influence for the younger kids in the family, u see😉

I told u that the movie was funny, but u din't listen to me..I even told u tell me if u liked it or not, and based on that i'll tell u... I gave u ample hints to stop u from going for the movie, but u had already said u will be watching it...So I was like, well, OK

Hey BTW, the movie was worth Kooossshhhhmmmaaaannndaaa😈 The whole theatre was 🤣 when Arjun appears on the top of those chimneys within seconds 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Don't laugh at my answer😭 I wasn't going to answer😆 but I decided to try. And now you're saying it's that bad. 😆 Violence is necessary? I don't think it's necessary at all.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: axeion

See this is what u get when u try to be diplomatic. I did tell u that I support Mr.Nitz's opinion abt him. And stumbling upon his relatives 😆 we can't help it...for one it's all very complicated and he is not the only one I am related to..there are many more in the industry it's a bad influence for the younger kids in the family, u see😉

I told u that the movie was funny, but u din't listen to me..I even told u tell me if u liked it or not, and based on that i'll tell u... I gave u ample hints to stop u from going for the movie, but u had already said u will be watching it...So I was like, well, OK

Hey BTW, the movie was worth Kooossshhhhmmmaaaannndaaa😈 The whole theatre was 🤣 when Arjun appears on the top of those chimneys within seconds 😆



My hubby watches all telugu movies no matter whether it's good or bad 😕.... I've literally slept half way into the movie so many times 😆... I would have slept if u had not mentioned about Arya... anyways Arya was worth watching...

That chimney scene is a bad rip-off of X-men origins- Wolverine

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: nitz17


My hubby watches all telugu movies no matter whether it's good or bad 😕.... I've literally slept half way into the movie so many times 😆... I would have slept if u had not mentioned about Arya... anyways Arya was worth watching...

That chimney scene is a bad rip-off of X-men origins- Wolverine

I watch every crap that calls itself a "movie", never trust my opinion abt movies, but sometimes I give pretty accurate reviews though😳

Chalo catch u guys later, going out to the library and then for another movie...don't know which one though

Smita ji, my answer is still under processing...I will post it once I am back😉



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Posted: 15 years ago
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I need a funny telugu movie to watch. Oh and the lead role has to be decent looking. Soo any suggestions?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Veritas

Ok I am going to post the First question relevant to our Book.

From what I have heard..Three Cups of Teas is required reading for anyone visiting the AF-PAK region.
Doesn't that give in to the assumption that terrorism is a socio-economic problem rather than a political one and can be solved by better education and amenities.
Doesn't Bin laden and his ideology blow a hole through that theory..



I think terrorism is affected by social, economic, political and Environmental issues. Terrorists need manpower to spread their terror and the people under poverty line are likely the easy targets to influence and manipulate. In countries Afghanistan the governments are very unstable and weak, so the situation is favorable for the rise of terrorism. Mountain ranges provide a perfect cover along with the weather conditions and also being elusive and land-locked. So even the geographic factors also provide a platform for the terrorism activities, like camping and weapon handling classes.

We have white collared people as much involved as blue collared people in spreading terror. So I feel that terrorism is not caused just by poverty, but also having superiority/inferiority complex, hatred and the feeling of being ignored. When they take arms in their hands, they sense the power it gives them and think they have no other option to fight the inequality other than terrorizing the nation. They think that their voice has to reach us, unaware of the fact that the forces that gave them arms are manipulating them and driving them with other ulterior motives.

Education alone cannot solve the problem, teaching us how to empathize with other human beings and also educating us how to respect other cultures. This does not apply only to people terror prone areas but everyone. So I feel, working on erasing ignorance from minds is the first step to attack terrorism.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Xserial_queenX

I need a funny telugu movie to watch. Oh and the lead role has to be decent looking. Soo any suggestions?



Anand (2004)
This movie is one of my fav in telugu....
I hope u like this movie and the hero is decent looking too 😛...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA0H2wn-QUU&feature=PlayList&p=DDA839A931EBE8B9&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1


Edited by nitz17 - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Xserial_queenX

I need a funny telugu movie to watch. Oh and the lead role has to be decent looking. Soo any suggestions?



Aww that means you will never watch malayalam movies😆

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