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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: dizzyonlemonade

It is one thing, you are right for the select few, who choose to get in such a career, to have some legal framework to protect them. That is indeed necessary. But along with that, I would like particularly for the law enforcement to try to curb underage prostitution, which I think is abuse. I read about a recent law passed in the U.S. and will share key sections of the article with you. Also, I need to find some stuff Dworkin has said on the matter because I don't know if even people do this stuff by their own will, does it not have some profound impact on their relationships later on? Street-walking is indeed a different matter than the high society escorts though in a more safe and secure environment.

Now 15, Amanda is rebuilding her life. Caught when a cop stopped one of her customers for a broken tail light, she was sent to Children of the Night, a residential program in suburban Los Angeles that rehabilitates teen prostitutes.

"All my life my plate was like overfilled with problems," she said. "I always asked God to give me something good, and this is it."

The fact that Amanda was rescued instead of arrested reflects not only a stroke of luck but a decidedly different take on tackling the juvenile sex trade. Courts and law enforcement are increasingly treating young prostitutes as child abuse victims ' and their pimps as human traffickers.


This is an institutional shift," said Nancy O'Malley, an Alameda County prosecutor who wrote California's new sexually exploited minors law. "It's about getting people to shift their attention and judgment from the minor and seeing what's beyond this criminal behavior."

New York also has a new law that calls for underage prostitutes to be sent to rehabilitation programs instead of juvenile detention, along with more training for law enforcement in handling the troubled teenagers and taking a harder line on their pimps.

In many other states, prosecutors are charging pimps with human trafficking, or the transportation of people for illicit commercial purposes. Convictions can land traffickers in prison for decades.

The approach comes as pimps are getting increasingly sophisticated and harder to bust. They run loose networks across states lines that distribute girls like drugs and set up Internet sex operations that are tough to infiltrate.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=7370496&page=1

The article is actually 3 pages, but I chose select portions. So I would not be at all comfortable with legalization in India at least or anywhere unless there are strong measures to prevent children from being involved. That being said, it is one of the oldest businesses in the world so it is going to go on, but it would be better if it is regulated at least to safeguard those, who are working as prostitutes.

I agree with you. Children should be kept away from involving themselves in prostitution. But I think 'age-restriction' would come with legalization anyway, because as far as I know, anything that involves 'legalization', also clearly states the right age to delve into it. Infact in the absence of legalization, the most vulnerable targets for the pimps are children, because they can be easily lured into this field if it is made to look like an alluring profession to them.
I think there are many people who enter this field by their own free will, probably because they think it is 'easy money' ( I'm only taking in account the countries that consider prostitution a legal profession ). They charge for every minute they spend with the customer, even if all the customer does is talk. The same circumstances do not exist in India. There is no equilibrium between the power on both sides - The prostitute and the customer. Visibly, the customer feels he can treat sex workers like sh*t and some of them even walk away without paying, so I think legalizing is a step towards attaining a safer environment for sex workers.
Edited by -Neetz- - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by: dizzyonlemonade


Hi Aisha. :) Don't go, I can spam too.

nimmi !!! 😃😃😃 yaay ! im not going .. now that u are here 😉
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Posted: 16 years ago
The problem is that the majority of prostitutes in the world are underage and I will be point-black and say it that virginity is turned into a fetish throughout time. To quote Naomi Wolf,"Youth and until recently virginity have been beautiful in women since they stand for experimental and sexual ignorance." That is still true in some cases though.

So from a moral standpoint, prostitution is turning women into commodities to succumb to the subjugation of the patriarchy. And in calling it the oldest profession, I forgot one thing, it originated in Babylon as women were sold off into sexual slavery. That is where it is rooted, and I will not argue that if one is autonomous that it cannot be empowering, but I do think its inherent nature is not that but is in fact involves succumbing to someone else's will. Although, I suppose even the entertainment industry is guilty of making people commodities, sex work is more strongly so. That is where I am conflicted because of how the practice itself originated.

Some lyrics are coming to mind for me at the moment:

We make her paint her face and dance
If she won't be a slave, we say that she don't love us
If she's real, we say she's trying to be a man
While putting her down, we pretend that she's above us

We make her bear and raise our children
And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother hen
We tell her home is the only place she should be
Then we complain that she's too unworldly to be our friend

We insult her every day on TV
And wonder why she has no guts or confidence
When she's young we kill her will to be free
While telling her not to be so smart we put her down for being so dumb

We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance
We make her paint her face and dance


Edited by dizzyonlemonade - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
omg.. ur really spamming! 😆
i am trying to plan an active full day bday for one of my friends..
any ideas?
i will be here nd there/
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Posted: 16 years ago
Sonia, here are my ideas. Going to the park, going to the bowling alley, and laser tag. Apparently, my brain is mush right now, thanks to Caesar.
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Posted: 16 years ago
Nimmi - Majority of the countries where prostitution is legal, do have a legal age for people who want to enter the field. Accordingly, any underage person who joins ( Or is forced to join ) prostitution does so illegally. I guess underage prostitution exists in countries where it is within the legal framework.
Quoting from Wikipedia:
"Regarding the prostitution of children the laws on prostitution as well as those on sex with a child apply. If prostitution in general is legal there is usually a minimum age requirement for legal prostitution that is higher than the general age of consent . Although some countries do not single out patronage of child prostitution as a separate crime, the same act is punishable as sex with an underage person."
Since we're having this discussion, I also came across an article which said that there needs to be regulated legalization of prostitution. Brothels run by pimps and other human traffickers should be made illegal.
Women are treated like commodities and playthings only when 'Legal' aspect does not exist. Otherwise, I'd like to say that it is not the woman's body that is being made a public property, it is the services that are being legally provided to people who seek them, through a woman's body.
I do not know much about the origins of prostitution, but I do agree that it is one of the oldest businesses in the world. In a nutshell, It is simply a service in exchange of money.
Edited by -Neetz- - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
wow nimmi u really are spamming =O
lemme join you =)
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Posted: 16 years ago
i dont think i even spammed this much but it is a laugh riot with the pics.
thx for the ideas.. i hav to see who i can gather together.
i was also thinkin maybe a waterpark..
what did neetz do to ur brain? 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
NEETA whre hve u disapeared ???
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Posted: 16 years ago

omg aisha called me Neeta ?! :O serious problem dude !!!!!

I'M HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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