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Posted: 8 years ago
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this chandra nandini is a very beautiful concept.The romance is good but now its hazy..Cvs I dont know why makes all characters like nand And Malay as baffoon and Apama she irritates me a lot.
Again this week,Cgm blames Nandini...She is with shackles atleast once in 15 days.../


patalgram track...was epitome of love and affection...
I really see those tracks again and again in vimeo..thanks to Paulomi.who takes pain to upload..Infact for another month I am going to check Paulomi thread and At thread to see any chandini scenes..
Rest all character scenes it really pisses me out..Apama character behaves like silly villain. Chanakya disappoints me a lot...
I love Yashomati... I want her to thrash Chanakya so that he would use his Brains?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: aishwish


You know prem I just don't get it how you manage to "doubt" everything which you contradict and be "SURE" about your points put forward.

Firstly historians never suggest anything about nandini's age because for them she don't exist or non exist ...thanks to bindusaar historians agree that CGM had a lady in his life must be his wife who was the mother of his son.No historian accept that her name was durdhara. Even with helena the name comes from Jaishankar prasad's drama called chankaya. ..it is generally held that CGM married a daughter of Seleucus though it is nor warranted by known facts.

Secondly child marriage was not prevalent in 4 century BC...not all historians except it. Many of them on the contrary has a view that child marriage in India started around 1000 years ago with muslim invavsion.

Historians accept that CGM killed nand before he ascended throne at the age of 20 so why would he wait to be 32 years to marry nand's daughter(in case he married) is just plain unintelligible to me.

And please I have said this on your previous thread (which I doubt you bothered to check) and still saying megasthanese , abul fazal and their likes are NOT historians and neither their works are history they are merely ACCOUNTS!! Not even chanakya's arthashatra

The topic maker just merely shared a piece of information that she found ...she is time and again accepting that facts are hazy, we are all for that matter...and its high time that you accepted it as well that when it comes to CGM accepted textbook history has very less to offer and historians very less to say...we can't safely assume anything!! Just because you are adding at the end of every point you present "historians accept it" will not make it historians accept it. Kindly next time try quoting the historian with his/her name and when I say historians I mean HISTORIANS

@Siva: thanks for the information ...it always is good to know what different versions have to present!! Though I said and you said as well everything is hazy and its interesting to see so many interpretation


👏👍🏼 Well and rightly said @Aishwish
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avantika1115

this chandra nandini is a very beautiful concept.The romance is good but now its hazy..Cvs I dont know why makes all characters like nand And Malay as baffoon and Apama she irritates me a lot.
Again this week,Cgm blames Nandini...She is with shackles atleast once in 15 days.../


patalgram track...was epitome of love and affection...
I really see those tracks again and again in vimeo..thanks to Paulomi.who takes pain to upload..Infact for another month I am going to check Paulomi thread and At thread to see any chandini scenes..
Rest all character scenes it really pisses me out..Apama character behaves like silly villain. Chanakya disappoints me a lot...
I love Yashomati... I want her to thrash Chanakya so that he would use his Brains?
😆

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I agree Chanakya does not do well...they have declared this as a ROMANTIC- LOVE saga.

All are supporting characters to their love development ..each and every event will be centered and focused on their love.

here the king doesn't wage war against any kingdom..so don't need Chanakya

Dadima is their to give funny remarks on her grand son

Durdara's death is for their separation track

H & Abama..indirectly develop their affection thru their hatred

We will see how far the child Bindusaar helps in his daddy's love

Even the much expected war scenes made feeble hissings

So the upcoming sequences may build their confrontation and longing and nothing more
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@krithika @avantika: Thanks for agreeing 🤗
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: aishwish


You know prem I just don't get it how you manage to "doubt" everything which you contradict and be "SURE" about your points put forward.

Firstly historians never suggest anything about nandini's age... because for them she don't exist or non exist ...thanks to bindusaar historians agree that CGM had a lady in his life must be his wife who was the mother of his son.No historian accept that her name was durdhara. Even with helena the name comes from Jaishankar prasad's drama called chankaya. ..it is generally held that CGM married a daughter of Seleucus though it is nor warranted by known facts.

Secondly child marriage was not prevalent in 4 century BC...not all historians except it. Many of them on the contrary has a view that child marriage in India started around 1000 years ago with muslim invavsion.

Historians accept that CGM killed nand before he ascended throne at the age of 20 so why would he wait to be 32 years to marry nand's daughter(in case he married) is just plain unintelligible to me.

And please I have said this on your previous thread (which I doubt you bothered to check) and still saying megasthanese , abul fazal and their likes are NOT historians and neither their works are history they are merely ACCOUNTS!! Not even chanakya's arthashatra

The topic maker just merely shared a piece of information that she found ...she is time and again accepting that facts are hazy, we are all for that matter...and its high time that you accepted it as well that when it comes to CGM accepted textbook history has very less to offer and historians very less to say...we can't safely assume anything!! Just because you are adding at the end of every point you present "historians accept it" will not make it historians accept it. Kindly next time try quoting the historian with his/her name and when I say historians I mean HISTORIANS

@Siva: thanks for the information ...it always is good to know what different versions have to present!! Though I said and you said as well everything is hazy and its interesting to see so many interpretation



Very well said Aish 👏👏👍🏼 agreed point to point.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avantika1115

this chandra nandini is a very beautiful concept.The romance is good but now its hazy..Cvs I dont know why makes all characters like nand And Malay as baffoon and Apama she irritates me a lot.
Again this week,Cgm blames Nandini...She is with shackles atleast once in 15 days.../


patalgram track...was epitome of love and affection...
I really see those tracks again and again in vimeo..thanks to Paulomi.who takes pain to upload..Infact for another month I am going to check Paulomi thread and At thread to see any chandini scenes..
Rest all character scenes it really pisses me out..Apama character behaves like silly villain. Chanakya disappoints me a lot...
I love Yashomati... I want her to thrash Chanakya so that he would use his Brains?
😆



I too hate Apama...she irritates me to the core 😡😡😡

Bold: hahahaha...i also love Yashomati...😉😆😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Niadrus is the Greek equivalent to Durdhara who was the first wife of Chandragupta Maurya. While her husband assumed the title of the Emperor she never was officially given the title of the Empress. Mind you Kshatrani or Samragyi was the title given to the mother of heir apparent. Durdhara died during the childbirth and hence could never be coronated. As far as her being the daughter of Dhananand is concerned then it is a fallacy. Many historians such as Dr. Neeke Chaturvedi, who is a known name in Mauryan and Magadhan history, denies a daughter of Nand dynasty to be married to Chandragupta Maurya. The reason were simple, no woman would marry the murderer of her family without the thought of revenge ruling in her head. Chanakya would never allow such an alliance to take place. Also Chandragupta belonged to the Moriya race/tribe who were hierarchically higher than the Nanda's. Nandas were known as the Shudra Kings and hence under no circumstances Chanakya would have allowed this marriage to have happened.


Now the case of Durdhara. She was no princess but a distant cousin of Chandragupta himself. She is said to be a daughter of a wealthy merchant and was married to Chandragupta before the war of Magadh. She was the Agramasi but was never given the formal title of Empress because of the reason stated above. Chandragupta had loved her immensely and as a testimonial to the fact he remained a monogamous widower for 16 long years before he fell for daughter of Selucus Nicator. She is addressed with various names such as Cornelia, Apama and so on but the most popular one is Helena as she belonged to the Hellenic world. She was closer to Bindusara in age and there are no records available as far as her issue or death is concerned.


Now coming to Nandini. She is fiction period. There are many evidences that support the fact. Firstly the war that broke out in Magadh took place between the forces of Chandragupta and Dhananand. At the end of which Dhananand was killed. His issues, i.e., his sons were murdered along with his parents as per Chankaya's order. He was careful to leave no living member of the dynasty so the rule of Mauryans could not be challenged. Nandini if she existed, would have married Chandragupta only after the war. Thus her being first wife is ruled out as that was Durdhara. So in all probability Niadrus is the name given to Durdhara just like Sandrocutus is the name given to Chandragupta Maurya. Yes, women were trained in warfare during the Mauryans age, they also maintained regiments that was full of women but royal women would have not been allowed to take part in wars as continuation of dynasty was through them. That was one reason why princesses, though battle trained, were not allowed in wars. The women allowed in wars were assassins such as vish-kanya or krittya. Hence going by all these logics Nandini did not exist. Ekta is aiming for a fictional representation of a love story that did not exist. She even showed Acharya Chanakya as a married man. Now what more can one expect out a series such as this.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: aishwish


You know prem I just don't get it how you manage to "doubt" everything which you contradict and be "SURE" about your points put forward.

Firstly historians never suggest anything about nandini's age... because for them she don't exist or non exist ...thanks to bindusaar historians agree that CGM had a lady in his life must be his wife who was the mother of his son.No historian accept that her name was durdhara. Even with helena the name comes from Jaishankar prasad's drama called chankaya. ..it is generally held that CGM married a daughter of Seleucus though it is nor warranted by known facts.

Secondly child marriage was not prevalent in 4 century BC...not all historians accept it. Many of them on the contrary has a view that child marriage in India started around 1000 years ago with muslim invavsion.

Historians accept that CGM killed nand before he ascended throne at the age of 20 so why would he wait to be 32 years to marry nand's daughter(in case he married) is just plain unintelligible to me.

And please I have said this on your previous thread (which I doubt you bothered to check) and still saying megasthanese , abul fazal and their likes are NOT historians and neither their works are history they are merely ACCOUNTS!! Not even chanakya's arthashatra

The topic maker just merely shared a piece of information that she found ...she is time and again accepting that facts are hazy, we are all for that matter...and its high time that you accepted it as well that when it comes to CGM accepted textbook history has very less to offer and historians very less to say...we can't safely assume anything!! Just because you are adding at the end of every point you present "historians accept it" will not make it historians accept it. Kindly next time try quoting the historian with his/her name and when I say historians I mean HISTORIANS

@Siva: thanks for the information ...it always is good to know what different versions have to present!! Though I said and you said as well everything is hazy and its interesting to see so many interpretation


I am sorry if you or siva felt something diff I did not mean anything to anyone personally

Please read Ancient history of india Megasthaneses. In that Megasthanese says about the social life of indians, girls/boys usually married at 7-12 years, men died by 40 years and by 30 they were considered old. Hence i said if a nandini existed she would never go to war as first CGM never allow and she is very young. Whether a nand daughter married CGM that no one is sure. What i wrote was hypothesis assuming that Nandini did exist.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: aishwish


You know prem I just don't get it how you manage to "doubt" everything which you contradict and be "SURE" about your points put forward.

Firstly historians never suggest anything about nandini's age... because for them she don't exist or non exist ...thanks to bindusaar historians agree that CGM had a lady in his life must be his wife who was the mother of his son.No historian accept that her name was durdhara. Even with helena the name comes from Jaishankar prasad's drama called chankaya. ..it is generally held that CGM married a daughter of Seleucus though it is nor warranted by known facts.

Secondly child marriage was not prevalent in 4 century BC...not all historians accept it. Many of them on the contrary has a view that child marriage in India started around 1000 years ago with muslim invavsion.

Historians accept that CGM killed nand before he ascended throne at the age of 20 so why would he wait to be 32 years to marry nand's daughter(in case he married) is just plain unintelligible to me.

And please I have said this on your previous thread (which I doubt you bothered to check) and still saying megasthanese , abul fazal and their likes are NOT historians and neither their works are history they are merely ACCOUNTS!! Not even chanakya's arthashatra

The topic maker just merely shared a piece of information that she found ...she is time and again accepting that facts are hazy, we are all for that matter...and its high time that you accepted it as well that when it comes to CGM accepted textbook history has very less to offer and historians very less to say...we can't safely assume anything!! Just because you are adding at the end of every point you present "historians accept it" will not make it historians accept it. Kindly next time try quoting the historian with his/her name and when I say historians I mean HISTORIANS

@Siva: thanks for the information ...it always is good to know what different versions have to present!! Though I said and you said as well everything is hazy and its interesting to see so many interpretation

well said
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: siva06

Nandini really existed
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Nandini (Niadrus)- First wife of Chandragupta Maurya - Daughter of Dhanananda - Princess of Chandravanshi Clan and Nanda Dynasty - 337 BC - 265 BC Queen Nandini - Queen Nia
iadrus - or Chandravansham Chandra Nandini or Niadrus' is considered as the princess of Chandravanshi Clan Nanda Dynasty and daughter of Nanda Dynasty. Queen Nandini was one of the three daughters of , the ruler of the Great Nanda Dynasty which ruled Northern India around 322 BC.
CVS made some changes
But some think that CN story is a complete fantasy
CGM's history is so old, happened around 2300 years back,,hence so much confusion
Bindusaaar is son of Durdhara who died when given birth to him
But Nandini was with her hubby till his death
Nandini helped her husband In every war ,they both won almost all the wars & CGM kingdom extended upto Afghanistan

According to reference in Jain Literatures Queen Nandini was married to Chandragupta Maurya as a war compensation and Dhanananda was sent to exile in the forest, became a Jain Monk. According to Megasthenes reference from Indika (greek: Indica) Niadrus was an exceptional warrior and a great leader. Niadrus was the eldest of all descendants of Dhanananda.

Niadrus was also the advisor of militia and an able army commander. Niadrus had a fleet of 2000 Elephants and 4000 Chariots
Nandini may have girl child actually it's not mentioned in history
Nandini was warrior princess but CVs made her cry baby
(narrated by a history student)


thanks for thus information..

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