Chandra Nandini 96-100: The moment of truth; Supplement page 6 - Page 20

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

I watched Chanakya when I was a child along with my dad. Never watched it completely after that again. So I am speaking a lot from memory. And I was hardly old enough to have understood its intricacies or subtleties except know that it was excellent and a true masterpiece.

The more recent discontinued Chandragupt Maurya on NDTV Imagine I remember better. But at the time it was stopped the story hardly came to that point. Dhananand was still alive, kicking and plotting away. So my information is truly wonky on 1990 Chanakya.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Well, one sees that Nandini is going to get an unexpected intro to her pitamaharaj's real nature. The rest will probably develop as per Sandhya's draft scenario - she will get her jollies, the ones she was cheated of last week😉, with Chandra weeping gallons. I only hope Rajat does better than he did in that scene about Chhaya, that is all.

I was fearing the sobfest actually and relieved and jubilant that Chandra had drawn aces. This time, if he does half as well as the Mazhar scene, I will be more than happy. And the tears are justified given the lovely togetherness they have begun to share and there will be only sorrow not self-flagellation as I feared last time during the walling.

The bit about the stabbing being the reason for Nandini's subsequent childlessness is rather neat, Sandhya.👏 But Chandra does not need this mothering bit to have his bond with Nandini enhanced. It is already as strong as spider's silk, which is said to have many times the tensile strength of steel.

Very true aunty. I meant the bond with a motherless Bindusaar and Nandini will be enhanced as both of them will have each other. And this closeness will make Chandra love Nandini more, that is if possible. As it is, even now they share a bond of complete mutual trust, mutual respect and mutual admiration. Both their faces simply light up in each other's presence. They can almost read each other's minds and understand each other's spoken and unspoken words, see each other's worlds and feel each other's joys and pains and relish each other's happiness. A very rare and precious bond as it is also mutual and equal. And the actors playing the roles are a marvelous fit. (Never thought would say this about this jodi during the war days where Nandini screams at Chandra questioning his Purushartha and for a lonf time subsequently.)

Why Nandini goes in Roopa's place in not yet clear. I presume she is not told of Roopa being carted along at all, and must have latched on the delegation, being confident her being able to get Nand to let Bharati go free.

But all this leaves three major questions still unanswered.

1) What about Padmanand? One presumes that Chandra kills him at once as soon as he has stabbed Nandini taking her to be Roopa. But he might well escape in the melee, while Chandra sobs over Nandini's prone body, as a dress rehearsal for what is to come.

Chanakya has to tie his hair. So Padmanand has to die.😆 Whether at the hands of Chandra or Roopa, is the CVs choice.🤔 Or he may kill himself in remorse for having stabbed Nandini. That would uphold the astrologer's prediction of Roopa being the cause of Padmanand'd death (his despair and guilt and hence suicide) and keep Chandra's hands clean of Nandini's father's blood. He is not the self killing sort, but then he is not himself wrt Nandini.

2) What about Roopa? She will still be around, unless she ups and stabs Padmanand in the back - the perfect place! - while he is weeping gallons over his priyatamaa putri. But that will still leave her around. I do not see her as a candidate for a change of heart.

She may escape as if cornered or executed, she will spill the beans on Helena and Aapama too, and Helena has to stay around. (Was Justin a figment of CAS CV's imagination or did he exist?) Roopa may come in handy for a future track and be eliminated by Aapama eventually.

3) What happens when Nandini eventually finds out that Chandra knew all along about Roopa being her twin?

He would tell what he told Chanakya to her, that he hid the truth for her own safety and if their love and trust is indeed as strong as we believe it to be she would believe it.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Originally posted by: jayaks02

Akka never gets caught on wrong foot 😉 Reproducing your line Akka for fun sake. Please do not mind.

This girl is a washout Amina . Period.

But then most of us thought so during that time. Chaaya's love affair with Satyajit was the turning point I guess - From that episode she took a different avatar and is now bettering herself in each episode though RT is in a different league altogether.

Which goes to prove that one can always find a small thuduppu and turn around things. In Play, serial, movie or life.

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Originally posted by: AJSharma79

Of course I don't agree with the entire XY Choromosoms of Maurya clan rooting and cheering for Nandini, Sandhya. It is unjustifiable, especially on Daadi's part.

I am only supporting Chandra wanting to have her for his favourite.

I do agree that after that mistake Helena has been extremely careful in pretending to be the lovey dovey wife. To an extend, she is a lovey dovey wife for real because she thinks she is in love with Chandra. The only problem with her love is that it is the sort that a child in Kindergarden would have for a doll and holds tight to it so that other children will not play with it. It is more of establishing ownership than a selfless love

Eventhough, to Chandra she does not show her ugly side; I have felt that there is always a stark difference in the both of them. Nandini always comes out as genuinely caring and loving. While Helena's care and love is first and foremost focused on Chandra alone, and when it is towards others it appears as if she is trying too hard.

Basically what I am saying is that, like how Chandra now claims he can sense the difference between Roopa and Nandini within him i.e. he feels odd and restless around Roopa; If I was Chandra I would get the vibe on fakeness from Helena.

Its a pity actually. She, I think, is not really pure evil. It is her want to own him completely driving her to do very stupid and detrimental things. She is always seen by Chandra to be alleging or incriminating someone. It would not be a trait i would find pleasing in my queen.

See Nandini has this advantage where, Chandra think he had mistreated her for her father's sins, and all she did was due to her love for her father. Of course, Helena may not be privy to this. But it seems to me that Nandini's past sins are more easily erasable on this point, then Helena's who tried to prove to Chandra he was a nobody because he made her angry.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

See, kids, right now there is the Daadi excuse Chandra has ready at hand, for sticking to Nandini like a gum plaster.

Incidentally, he seems to have forgotten all about her supposed pash on Malayaketu, and she about his amar prem for Helena. Both topics seem to have become verboten (German for forbidden) post their Pataalgram excursion.

With Roopa exposure, all these have become NULL and VOID. Without even that, at Patalgram also he did not bother about that thorn . The relationship reached such a trust level that he did not think she was capable of that. And the fuel was not added by Helena on a daily basis like earlier. 😆

To revert, the problem will arise only if ( a huge IF!) and when Daadi lugs her portly self back to Piplivan. Then this excuse will vanish, and all those most ill-considered promises Chandra has made to Helena - of their having a wonderful life together post-Daadi- will all descend on him at once, like a whole barnful of chickens coming home to roost. 😆

One has also to remember is that these promises were given out of his free will, not coerced out of him in a drunken stupor, like the Las Vegas marriages! The fool will then end up between a rock and a hard place. So my bet is that Daadi will never leave Pataliputra, no matter how much you gnash your teeth, , my poor Anne! 😉

LV Marriages. 😆 The hunour thrown by you in betweens is one of your strongest characteristic in writing. I would want to see Daadi leaving ( Not because I hate her ) as her scenes are becoming too cliched, and some scenes where he gets to spend time with Helena. N feeling J and picking up fights with Chandu - That will be a treat to watch,

As for Sandhya's cost accounting about the respective insults Chandra has received from Helena and Nandini, it is very interesting but pointless. Chandra just does not have any amorous inclinations towards Helena, and as love, or even a physical relationship, was not part of their deal, he feels no obligation to accommodate her now that she has decided that she loves him and only him.

😆 for the underlined. But he did mention to N during J track that Helena loves him. He knows she wants a physical relationship with him but as Anne beautifully put it, he feels the difference in her approach of him. While N is selfless, no-ego, no domineering, H WANTS Chandu for the sake of power she will establish. All said and done, Chandra is very perceptive in spite of not having a fully developed Hruday.

By now, even that reluctant sense of duty he felt towards her has vanished. So, even if she had not made that very unfortunate statement about her having made him the King, nothing would have changed in that respect.

Why should he now go and spend nights with her if he does not feel like it? Anne, your take on his sensing the very real fakeness of Helena is most perceptive, but even if she had been genuine, nothing would have changed in his response to her overtures. He just does not feel anything for her, period.

👏 for Anne and you.

I also agree with your analysis of Helena, and of the nature of the "love" she now says she feels for Chandra. Basically, Helena is like one of those creepers that will strangle anything it clings to. Chandra is much better off at a safe distance from her.😉

To revert, come to think of it, bar that imli episode and a couple of other sequences, he hardly seems to bother about Durdhara either. Not that I blame him. Durdhara will reduce his brains to mush in one hour flat with her babbling of kalejas. 😡

Everyone loves to hate her - But I do not get put off by her somehow - Do not know why

The cardinal fact is that he has never been in love before, and he has fallen hard for Nandini now. So I am not surprised that he has no inclination to spend any time, not to speak of other things, with his other two wives. Nor would I blame him. Young men in love are like that only! The heart has its reasons, and all that.

Apart from the beautiful scenes that are written for this Ajeeb jodi and their enactment, it is writings like this that enhance the experience of viewing the serial - I have read many good lines from various forumites on their interesting take on CN relationship - It is extremely special to me also.

As for Helena, she has foolishly abandoned the one solid hold she had over him, that of being a political aide to Chanakya, which she had till he became Magadhasamrat. And equally foolishly made it clear that all she is really interested in is queening it over the palace. Chandra has no objection to that, but if she wants sole proprietary rights over him - and make no mistake, that is what she wants! - well, that is a non-starter.

Right now, Chandra and Nandini seem to be in a world of their own, and clearly no one else has any place there. This Nandini deserves that, and so I have no problems with the so-called neglect of his other wives, of whom Durdhara hardly minds it!

I loved how you put it. And this world does not have any bitterness of their past. Very surprising. This is where I feel CVs should have taken some more time in establishing the love . If not a complex love, this could have been shown as complicated love in the process of getting established. Still they have written better lines and sequences than last outing and actors are coming out TOPS

In any case, at least judging from Maharana Udai Singh's obsession with his third wife in Maharana Pratap (though he continued to have high regard for his first queen, who was also the mother of his heir), Jalal in Jodha Akbar, and Jahangir and, even more so, Shahjahan in real life. this kind of behaviour seems to have been more the royal norm than the exception. I have read that Mumtaz died during childbirth basically because she would not let Shahjahan visit any of his other queens, and so she had a child every year and died bearing the umpteenth one!

= 😆 Jahangir was henpecked when it came to Noor Jahan. He made a number of incorrect political decisions that had long lasting negative impact on Mughal dynasty. He was an unworthy son for a great emperor like Akbar.

But I agree fully with Prem about the royal family's incomprehensible neglect of Chhaya and her condition. Not only the two old biddies, Daadi and Mura, or the nutty Durdhara, but Chandra - which is unbelievable - and just as odd, Nandini too. She has not asked Chandra a single question about Chhaya since after the walling in charade. 😲

Yes True Akka - Hope she makes a comeback tomorrow - Will she spill the beans on her conspiring with Helena to make H Mukhya Maharani ? I think not. Now Malay will start showing his true colours like harassing her or asking for a Geography etc. We need him USED also - No issues if he scales up to become Prime Villain now.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: jayaks02

Akka never gets caught on wrong foot 😉 Reproducing your line Akka for fun sake. Please do not mind.

This girl is a washout Amina . Period.

But then most of us thought so during that time. Chaaya's love affair with Satyajit was the turning point I guess - From that episode she took a different avatar and is now bettering herself in each episode though RT is in a different league altogether.
Which goes to prove that one can always find a small thuduppu and turn around things. In Play, serial, movie or life.



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