A few things that did not sink in

To tell the truth there were a number of things in today's episode which did not sink in and connect for me. But I will just mention a few main ones:

1) I understand the Samarpan Bhav of CGM towards his Guru Chanakya. His disappointment in having let down his guru's expectations from him was clearly visible. Similarly his confusion regarding Nandini was also evident. What didn't work for me was Chanakya's overbearing and at places highly offensive behavior! In BC flogging an erring student would not have been a big deal. But even during the time period in question, no teacher flogged his king even though the latter happened to be a former student and would be considered a pure breach of decorum. Though the acting by both the actors was good, I did not relish this scene.

2) Then comes the even bigger breach according to me when Chanakya bypasses Chandra and tells that one of his other students would safe guard the new royal mudrika. After this brazen OTT behavior, he cleverly coerces Chandra into saying that he is alright with this and has no issues.

3) More than losing faith in the credibility of their king because he happened to pardon a woman for a crime, it would be even more hit and affected by the fact that their king never takes any decisions on his own, and is very scared for the very few ones he takes on his own of being taken to task by his own
Prime Minister. People would start regarding him as just a king for name sake or a puppet
King, and that it is somebody else who calls the shots behind the screens. Chanakya whatever his issues or insecurities, has to tone down a bit in his behavior to Chandra. Just because the poor chap respects him, he cannot take undue advantage of it.

4) The way Chandra is believing everything Helena is saying and misunderstanding Nandini does not show his intelligence or his reasoning capabilities to any great advantage. It is making him look foolish, stupid and too gullible.

5) Helena is jealous of Nandini and doing all this for creating MUs between Chandra and Nandini. But her words and behavior are becoming too crass and cheap even for a Sautan!
Can't she be a bit classy?

Agree. Apart from Chanakya and Chandra scene (both were good in terms of acting .RT as always fab) the rest were just filler ! Helenas (though the actress is very good) words sheer rubbish .It sounded very cheap . She is so called Patrani(cvs should have remembered that ) and till now her character had grace but today she sounded/made cheap and lost that charm somewhere i feel.

True shaillu this whole track is unbelievable and why Malay angel all of a sudden Helena behaves like a low life loose character type woman and not a kings wife her dialogs are like wamp and not patrani

Chanakya is new to these powers so he is taking full advantage of it 😆

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

To tell the truth there were a number of things in today's episode which did not sink in and connect for me. But I will just mention a few main ones:

1) I understand the Samarpan Bhav of CGM towards his Guru Chanakya. His disappointment in having let down his guru's expectations from him was clearly visible. Similarly his confusion regarding Nandini was also evident. What didn't work for me was Chanakya's overbearing and at places highly offensive behavior! In BC flogging an erring student would not have been a big deal. But even during the time period in question, no teacher flogged his king even though the latter happened to be a former student and would be considered a pure breach of decorum. Though the acting by both the actors was good, I did not relish this scene.

Actually the scene reminded me of Ishan Avasti being hit with the cane in Taare Zameen Par. 😆 But it was not meant to be a punishment. It was to make Chandra realise that his feelings for Nandini were more painful to him than the cane beatings. To shake him awake from slipping into love and consequently losing his sagacity, an example being his forgiving Avantika for an unforgivable crime. He had done that to prick Nandini with the 'patni dharm' argument which was wrong. Chanakya HAD to make him come out of his feelings.

2) Then comes the even bigger breach according to me when Chanakya bypasses Chandra and tells that one of his other students would safe guard the new royal mudrika. After this brazen OTT behavior, he cleverly coerces Chandra into saying that he is alright with this and has no issues.

The Nand women had free access to Chandra's rooms. So it was more for the safety of the mudra that he gives the responsibility of its safety to another student. Chandra cannot protect it 24*7. It was just a small decentralisation procedure, not a breach.

3) More than losing faith in the credibility of their king because he happened to pardon a woman for a crime, it would be even more hit and affected by the fact that their king never takes any decisions on his own, and is very scared for the very few ones he takes on his own of being taken to task by his own Prime Minister. People would start regarding him as just a king for name sake or a puppet King, and that it is somebody else who calls the shots behind the screens. Chanakya whatever his issues or insecurities, has to tone down a bit in his behavior to Chandra. Just because the poor chap respects him, he cannot take undue advantage of it.

Not if the Prime Minister's decisions are wise and fair. It is an open secret that their king became king because of the Prime Minister. And NONE of Chanakya's decisions have been anti-Chandra either. Chanakya is most certainly not taking advantage of Chandra. All his actions are with Chandra and the motherland in mind. He has been more than a father figure to him and the Praja would only be pleased and inspired seeing the respect and reverence their king accords to his Guru. Like the respect Lord Rama gave his father.

4) The way Chandra is believing everything Helena is saying and misunderstanding Nandini does not show his intelligence or his reasoning capabilities to any great advantage. It is making him look foolish, stupid and too gullible.

True.

5) Helena is jealous of Nandini and doing all this for creating MUs between Chandra and Nandini. But her words and behavior are becoming too crass and cheap even for a Sautan!
Can't she be a bit classy?

Agree.

Even in the show these very same reasons were given for Chanakya's behavior and in a pretty detailed fashion. I do understood them but was just unable to connect with them. At one point I felt he was becoming too insecure and losing trust in Chandra. The boy just managed to fall in love with Nandu and Chanakya anachronistically became Shahanshah Akbar berating Salim for falling in love with Anarkalli to Chandra?

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

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3) More than losing faith in the credibility of their king because he happened to pardon a woman for a crime, it would be even more hit and affected by the fact that their king never takes any decisions on his own, and is very scared for the very few ones he takes on his own of being taken to task by his own
Prime Minister. People would start regarding him as just a king for name sake or a puppet
King, and that it is somebody else who calls the shots behind the screens. Chanakya whatever his issues or insecurities, has to tone down a bit in his behavior to Chandra. Just because the poor chap respects him, he cannot take undue advantage of it.

4) The way Chandra is believing everything Helena is saying and misunderstanding Nandini does not show his intelligence or his reasoning capabilities to any great advantage. It is making him look foolish, stupid and too gullible.

5) Helena is jealous of Nandini and doing all this for creating MUs between Chandra and Nandini. But her words and behavior are becoming too crass and cheap even for a Sautan!
Can't she be a bit classy?

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Even in the show these very same reasons were given for Chanakya's behavior and in a pretty detailed fashion. I do understood them but was just unable to connect with them. At one point I felt he was becoming too insecure and losing trust in Chandra. The boy just managed to fall in love with Nandu and Chanakya anachronistically became Shahanshah Akbar berating Salim for falling in love with Anarkalli to Chandra?

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Why not? Chanakya had done as much if not more than what Akbar had done for Salim. And kings/Princes cannot afford to 'manage to fall in love' when their falling in love is not beneficial to the State or they end up a Salim to Nur JaHan. This is one of the curses of the Crown. Chanakya's anxiety is not unfounded. I am perfectly okay with it.😊</font>

Really high standards you have for kings and princes, Sandy! But then they too are human beings and not completely infallible. They do have inexorable chinks in their armor too.

Exactly dear.in my ysday's post, i mentioned the same about ur 1-3 points.filhal for me 4,5 is that bothersome.bt yes he shud nt believe everythng wat helena says