Originally posted by: apolloartemis
Hi Aunty! Thought I should answer you here instead of at the old thread. I'm flattered you remember me- I've been away from here more than a year I think. And my real name is Saana!
Coming to the episodes, I think there are a lot of gems, mostly thanks to RT's acting, a lot of people are talking about the brutality of the executions and Chandra's actions and all I have to say is this: this is a man who grew up in an era very very different from ours, in circumstances we cannot hope to really understand. In a short period of time he has undergone multiple revelations that would shake anyone, and has used those revelations to put a personal edge to his anger.
I do not think it is a lot of people, my dear, for I saw just 2 threads on these lines. But yes, there is a persistent tendency, in this and in other contexts, to transpose contemporary mindsets into a 4th century BC tale.
I think in terms of anger, Chandra has two modes- a slow burn, who lends itself to a sadistic amusement- as evident by the glee RT exhibited as he was executing Nand and his sons, a slow grim grin that overtakes his features showing his pleasure in not only taking revenge, but grinding his enemies who have hurt him, his guru, and his family to the dust. And a fast burn mode, which he seems to be experiencing with Nandini- in which his anger is like s flash fire. Once the revenge is done no hatred is left in its wake. This is evident by his actions in todays episode in which he offers her water and cried for her, despite his insistence that this was not so to Dudhara.
Now this is what I meant by a refreshingly original point of view. I agree with you, and I love this take of yours.
I'm discomfited by the second, and hope he wont give in too quickly to Nandini. I'm not a fan of the character or the actress, especially her tenor and voice moderation, which do not lend themselves to royal dignity and a trial upon my ears at time. Her demeanor is understandable to a point, but when I compare it to Mura's or even the other royal ladies turned dasi's, her hysterical shrieking that Chandra should kill her falls short of the mark of her, admittedly sporadic character sketch. I am tempted to say the reason he woke is not that her peed reached him mentally, but her wailing reached him audibly!
Oh yes, he hears it, for she is wailing loudly enough to raise the whole palace! And your 'discomfited" pleased me a lot, for it is not a frequently used word, being the kind of thing I use myself. It is a perfect fit for what you wanted to convey.
Now on to my favorite- Helena! I loved her throughout the episodes. Her grim grin as Chandra called her name and tossed Malay to her, the softening and myriad of expressions and Malay spoke to her, the glance at Chandra and his skeptic expression before asking, as his wife, to fulfill her wish, and the subtle glee in her voice as she told Chandra to kill Malay. I loved them all. I also liked the interplay between her and Chandra in that moment.it was as if there was a vibration in the air. and their expressions read that that vibration reached only them, no one else.
I did not go into this scene as the post was long enough as it was and I was too tired by then. But even if I had taken it up, I could not have done it as well as you have. The last part, that I have put in bold now, is amazingly observant and perceptive.👏
You said is best- Helena is as she is. She grew up in Alexander's army, and the slogan- want take have and burn the rest, is very much evident in her. Also evident is the fissure that will cause her to try to destroy all who stand between her and Chandra.
As she tells Nandini in today's episode- what is hers is hers alone, and she will not ask, only take or snatch. She does not love Chandra as she loved Malay, and I doubt she ever will. But as Chandra has connected to her, she has connected to Chandra. Marry him for revenge she did, but this is also the Helena who asserted to Dudhara that her right to Chandra was paramount. I wonder that she does know of the fact that he spends the nights with her Sautan! The subtle interplay as Chandra introduced her, than Dudhara, the fact that she also knelt and touched Mura's feet... here is a woman who intends to rule the roost and knows the lay of the land as well!
I do not think she knows that Chandra shares his bedroom with Durdhara now as a matter of course. I do not know how she would react when she finds out, but the funny thing is that she has nothing to bother about on that score. I am sure Chandra and Durdhara have a nice, comfortable, platonic relationship going, that is all. It is the only psychologically feasible option for both of them.
I'm looking forward to her reaction to Chandra marrying Nandini, as well as her changing equation with Chankya as she realizes that he is the reason Nandini will become her Sautan instead of her dais, as well as the fact that Chandra is spending the nights with Dudhara.
She is a fascinating female in the Greek tradition, fierce, untamed and terrible, like Medea, whom I had mentioned earlier in my Helen 2.0 post, and Clytemnestra, whom I have not. But they are already beginning to wreck her as a character, witness her overt insolence towards Mura. If Chandra had heard that exchange, Helena would have copped it good and proper. I really wish Mura had read her the riot act for that. It might have done Helena some good.
P.S: I thought it was interesting that his mind went to Helena first for his heir. Perhaps I read too much into it, but what to do? We all have out crosses to bear!
I think that was because he has mentally crossed out Durdhara in this context, and that then leaves only Helena
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