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Posted: 8 years ago
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Aunty dearest!

Your analysis and anecdotes had me in stitches!😆 I definitely watched the episode, don't know what is going to happen tonight, but so far this was one of the most eventful episodes with most of its happening setting the stage for further incidents, and two pivotal characters stepping in.

I do agree with the Mura part, her encounter with Nandni - was a surprise indeed, though I felt that it was nearly time for the saas-bahu to meet😉. Jokes apart, it's strange to note that Avantika and Mura, two ladies tested by Fate, robbed of their fortunes on the very same night reflect on their losses so differently. More because of the actresses I guess, while the demanding and cursing Avantika is still bearable, Mura makes me feel like stuffing a handful of tissues into her mouth 😡

Poor Chandoo, both the mothers are completely useless!! I understand that his foster mother is in too much love to see how her husband is manhandling her, she can at least put her feet down for her beloved Chandra - if she is failing even there - it doesn't show her as either a good wife even a good mother!

As always Aunty, your threads assemble some of the very distinguished members of the forum - I have noticed that in Jodha Akbar days, during the Jalandhar track of Devon ke Dev Mahadev and here is no exception - a special mention of Couch_Potato and Shailaja, their perceptive posts and refined language is certainly a treat!

As for Chanakya, I have not seen him in CAS, unlike most people here, saw him as Dadhichi in DKDM last and there he did a commendable job, so I am looking forward to see more of him, though Manish Wadha remains a favourite, I can definitely expect some good acting 😊

I was quite surprised and somewhat amused to note the exceptional Urdu skills of the Macedonian superhero, your take on him and Mahamatya Rakshas and co. certainly deserves a 👏👏👏 in the least!


That said, take care of yourself as you limp along - do notice that I have hit the like, and thanks for your pm...
See you soon!
Edited by durgeshnandini - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Always loved your reviews shyamala akka (may I call you that?)
I'm usually a silent reader but couldn't help posting about a confusion that you had in today's analysis, this one:

Why this sudden shift from an appropriately gloomy underground dungeon to a wide open space, with a raised chabootara in the centre, with a pillar to which she is chained? Then it hit me: it is a replication of Sita in the Ashoka vatika, with Nand's visitations replicating the equally fruitless ones of Ravana.

Rani mura is tied in this fashion because this was exactly how rani devasena was chained by the villain bhallaladeva in bahubali!

No the cvs were not intelligently referring to Ramayana but merely copying what they had seen in bahubali (I had made a post on this last day...these cvs😡.)sadly I guess they'll continue copying /lifting off scenes from the epic movie.

See the pics:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRMWPvgr4hi5_aSe9kR0aj5TcsR6hE65nHM_BOd5ntxTU1poNhkI9i2A9wM0A

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11380843_1456878547945409_1642526246_n.jpg





P.S. just out of curiosity, why didn't you watch bahubali? I think you would've liked it.or did you get some negative reviews?

Waiting for your next analysis. ..

Love,

Ratna.
Edited by ratna.nanda - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#14
Lovely update aunty🤗
Havent watch the epi yet so nothing to say😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Your post is working like a repeat telecast for me, with insider's bites 😆
3 days journey to hometown and stuck inside train and humidity, I will miss these week's episodes. I hope you enjoy Aunty, seems like apart from Ghrina rant and masochst amar prem thingy you liking it.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with the poster on the previous page.

I do recommend you watch Baahubali Periyamma... if possible, before you watch any further episodes of CN
While it is not the best mytho-historical movie out there (and there is a scene or two with Tamanna that might make you cringe, and a flying from one mountain to next that might make you laugh), it is good.
Not recommending you watch because I intend to play spoilsport, but the reason I'm recommending you watch Baahubali is because it's a much better product... overall... at least a better historical fiction with CGI effects in recent times that one can expect...

I'm guessing that's why the general disappointment in all those who have watched it vs the ones who haven't!
I might be wrong, but what I can make out from the posts here, is that anything unusual seen here, is actually a direct (and not very well-made) lift-off from it.
Another point too... (again I might be wrong) but in your previous review, you'd mentioned scaling the heights for honeycomb raid??? If that is so, that is a lift-off from the Jungle Book too...

I understand. I can see the reverse effects too... everyone including yourself was quite disappointed by the Khallatak (???) man as a choice for Chanakya. Now since I haven't seen even one episode of CAS, I went back to google and searched for a few images of him... and I didn't think he seemed bad as a choice for Chanakya... maybe that's how 🤔

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Chanakya is not going to babble about prem, not even for his Bharat bhoomi!

Let's hope, periyamma... 😆

But that entire para of yours had me in splits... as did the reference to Alexander on a dentist's chair... 😆👏
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P.S. the significance of 'moonrise' struck me the moment I read the title... as did the jokes in your 2nd review. 😃




Edited by lashy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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As always, enjoyed reading this one too Aunty! Especially your quip on Nandini's nose and Alexander's war-cry 😆
I mostly agree with you, especially about Chandra's foster mom. But I would have sympathised with her if her excuse for putting up with her tormenting husband was anything but prem. Prem is a very flimsy excuse for putting up with that kind of man.

I too liked the scene where Chandra confronts the Magadh retinue. So Amatya Rakshas is not a hot-headed minister. He seems like a balanced fellow. Is he the one who later becomes the Mahamatya in Chandragupta's court?

Now coming to Chanakya. I have a fuzzy remembrance of Chandraprakash Dwivedi as Chanakya, though I remember his piercing glances and solemn expression. I have not watched Manish Wadhwa in the older CGM show. To me, the actor playing Chanakya has not done a bad job at all. In the small introduction we saw, he was able to drive home Chanakya's love for his Motherland, his shrewdness in the way he dealt with the drunkard, and concern as well. Or probably I liked him because so far he seems to be the best of the cast in the 4 episodes aired 😉. Either way, I don't mind him!

And the closing scene was perfect.

P.S - Just a suggestion. Why don't you make a weekly post like the ones you made on Mahakumbh forum? I feel that would be less burdening on your fingers.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

I agree with the poster on the previous page.
What poster?? Didn't see any on previous page😕

I do recommend you watch Baahubali Periyamma... if possible, before you watch any further episodes of CN
While it is not the best mytho-historical movie out there (and there is a scene or two with Tamanna that might make you cringe, and a flying from one mountain to next that might make you laugh), it is good.
I'm still wondering what was the significance of that scene?! Was it romantic? 😆


Not recommending you watch because I intend to play spoilsport, but the reason I'm recommending you watch Baahubali is because it's a much better product... overall... at least a better historical fiction with CGI effects in recent times that one can expect...
Yes, the graphics are really good, quite convincing, but I watched the movie only once hence I fail to recall the names of most of the characters... history was never my subject... correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Tamannah's character also named Avantika? 😉
I might be wrong, but what I can make out from the posts here, is that anything unusual seen here, is actually a direct (and not very well-made) lift-off from it.
You will be assured of this if you have read Jahnu di's comments on episode 3 analysis 😆

Another point too... (again I might be wrong) but in your previous review, you'd mentioned scaling the heights for honeycomb raid??? If that is so, that is a lift-off from the Jungle Book too...

I understand. I can see the reverse effects too... everyone including yourself was quite disappointed by the Khallatak (???) man as a choice for Chanakya. Now since I haven't seen even one episode of CAS, I went back to google and searched for a few images of him... and I didn't think he seemed bad as a choice for Chanakya... maybe that's how 🤔
Same here...

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Chanakya is not going to babble about prem, not even for his Bharat bhoomi!

Let's hope, periyamma... 😆
When it's Ekta, we can but only hope😆

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P.S. the significance of 'moonrise' struck me the moment I read the title... as did the jokes in your 2nd review. 😃

Ok I am done commenting your comments... will let Aunty do the rest😆


Edited by durgeshnandini - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

This is exactly what last night's episode reminded me of, a PPT by the CVs in seven parts, which were, alternately, and sometimes within the part itself, good, indifferent, bad, and unintentionally comic. I am simply going to take them ad seriatim.

Ad Seriatim!!!


Then came his pativrata istree of a mother, and I started gritting my teeth all over again. That woman, as I mentioned earlier is a closet masochist. If I have to listen to her babble just once more about the shakti that her amit, amar prem for her goon of a husband gives her to tolerate the beatings, I shall start climbing the nearest wall😡. It is such women who make such men even worse than they are, and I have NO sympathy for her.

How else could she have explained her staying on with that man to the little boy! May be that was the explanation she gave herself for the relationship she shared with her man. It is fine saying today, given the education and exposure and social flexibility of the 21st century, and not all the women had the solidity substance or the self confidence of the likes of Dharma to live as a single woman/mother.

-Ashoka vatika rebooted: In the whole of the passage between little Nandini - who, though cute like most 5 year olds, looks a bit like an illustration for the nursery rhyme line Along came a little bird and pecked off her nose! 😉

Like this????😆


- Depths of degradation: Nemesis got one more bash at Avantika as she literally groveled in front of her contemptuous partner in crime, babbling of her love for him and seeking the reciprocation that she knows perfectly well by now will never come. It was creepily satisfying to watch this evil woman being ground into the dust by a vengeful goddess.

And there was such bitterness when Avantika spoke of Nandini. She was angry and envious that Nandini got what she always desired - Nand's complete attention and love. She might make things worse for Nandini later on.😔

-Robin Hood or Bahubali?: Now I am laboring under the serious handicap of not having watched Bahubali, so I am periodically blindsided by references to it here from those who have. So, for the woodland scene, I have to fall back on the Robin Hood and his merry men parallel, the one familiar to my generation and hopefully not unknown even to yours!

I have read an abridged version and found the story extremely boring.

However, here we are shown more. His cool confidence and unshaken calm even when facing the senapati of Magadha and a whole contingent of soldiers. His clear-minded, unafraid enunciation of why he and his companions did what they did. His sense of self-respect that has him doing a remix of Amitabh Bachchan's shoeshine boy Vijay in Deewaar (made before most of you were born, but you might still have caught up with it on TV - Not watched yet, only familiar with the 'Mere paas Maa hai' dialogue😆) and refusing the tossed reward. Which he does not with arrogance, but with quiet, polite self assurance.

No wonder that Amatya Rakshas - who bears an uncanny resemblance to a Red Indian chieftain from the old cowboy films 😉- is so taken with this little boy, with the bearing of a king and the swabhimaan of an emperor.

Those Amatyas of that age were excellent all rounders - in shastras, weaponry, king making, government running, judging people, identifying talents! Wonder where they disappeared later on. Had the Rajput Kings had the likes of them, no Gajini or Babur would have made inroads into India (We might have missed Jalal then😲😆) Had such men been present and powerful in Jahangir's court, he wouldn't have allowed the first British factory at Surat either.

Finally, when Chandra responds to Rakshas' shocked query about the welts on his back with Ab peedha nahin hoti. Ab abhyaas ho chukka hai. .. the bitterness in the lines sears the screen, overcoming even the limitations of the child mouthing them.

How would Siddharth have performed those lines and the scene! But yes, the role being small doesn't merit Sid. I'd rather an average kid and an adult RT.😃

An aside. Did you folks notice that the other, unnamed amatya, who is shown advising the army commander Varkanas to release the royal family they had taken prisoner, bears a distinct resemblance to Gollum in The Lord of the Rings? I fully expected him to fall on all fours and start crawling after Chandra, mumbling My precious! 😉😉

🤣 I found this somehow very funny though I haven't read The Lord of the Rings, nor seen teh movies.

-Videshi kudrishti: There seems to be a fad for kudrishti in this show. First it was Mura ranting about Nand's omnipresent kudrishti directed at any female within reach, and now it is Bharatmata doing the same about Alexander of Macedon's kudrishti, directed, no, not at any female at all, but solely at herself.

😆

Jodha used to utter the word in a strange and funny way. And Mura is worse. Bharat Mata too is just average. Stresses too much at places and instead of sounding serious, ends up jarring!👎🏼


-The Grand Entry:

My answer would be a qualified yes. He is already fully competent, if not inspired. He might lack the sheer presence of his predecessors in Chakravartin Ashoka Samrat and the 2012 Chandragupta Maurya, but I feel that very soon he will put his own stamp on the role and make us forget that he was ever anyone but Chanakya.

I need more time to get the 'Rajkumar Sushim' out of my ears and zehen!

- Ek hi uddheshya, ek hi marg, ek hi lakshya: The closing part, with Chanakya and Chandragupta both setting out for Pataliputra, each to save his special maa, was beautifully conceived, scripted, and shot. I loved the very last line: Jo aaj tak mile nahin, wo bhavishya mein aise milnewale the ki Bharat ke itihaas mein unka naam saath saath liya jaanewala tha.

And no Nandini can change that!

Now that the 2nd commandment has been abandoned, I can bravely compare. (not that I wouldn't even if it weren't 😆)

It reminded me of the similar comparison after Jodha speaks to Moti on Maa Saraswati being on her tongue and making her influence Jalal's history and at the same time Jalal talking to Khan Babaabout making his mark in history and another of both of them praying.

Fate is really devious and all powerful. It can raise people to great heights and sink them to depths. What if the two had set out in different times! CGM was destined to achieve greatness by Fate. On the other hand the Balu of Salangai Oli was just thrashed by fate at every step! Luck is indeed as important as talent and hardwork!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Agree with the entire power point presentation, Shyamala Aunty...😆...except one...

Ashoka vatika rebooted: In the whole of the passage between little Nandini - who, though cute like most 5 year olds, looks a bit like an illustration for the nursery rhyme line Along came a little bird and pecked off her nose! 😉- I was thinking of only one thing. Why this sudden shift from an appropriately gloomy underground dungeon to a wide open space, with a raised chabootara in the centre, with a pillar to which she is chained? Then it hit me: it is a replication of Sita in the Ashoka vatika, with Nand's visitations replicating the equally fruitless ones of Ravana. Only this Sita rebooted is looking not for her husband but for her son to take revenge on the rakshasa who holds her in thrall, and free her.

Just one change here...Ashok vatika rebooted is fine...but instead of Sita, Trijata is held captive here 🤣


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