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Posted: 8 years ago
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Shailaja my dear,

Don't fret too much about these cardboard cutout kings and queens and that disgusting Nand. He gave me the creeps. I was so put off by all the cavorting on the royal bed that the Shiva stotra completely escaped me. To use it for that scene was pure blasphemy!😡

I think things will improve by the end of the week; they surely cannot get any worse!😉 Two of the cardboard cutouts will be bumped off, the barber will be wrapped up in gilt and fake silk and will thus look less disgusting, and Mura will do a bunk from that palace. What I am waiting for is Rajat's entry.

No, no, my dear, please do not accuse these CVs of a penchant for Shakespearian flourishes! But then, any such speech has to be pitched right for its audience, the aam praja, and it cannot be other than simply and very strongly worded. And there is nothing stronger than the concept of the mother for an Indian audience. We are not like the Germans, who click their heels and salute the Vaterland. But I was initially taken aback by the speeches per se, not able to understand the why of it all, till I realised that it was for young Chandragupta doing an Abhimanyu.

As for the concept of a Bharatvarsh extending from the Himalayas to Kanyakumari, my dear, it is not in the least of recent origin.

It was inextricably linked with the concept of the Chakravartin Samrat over the whole subcontinent, which is what King Suddhodana hoped that Siddartha Gautama would become. So it was there even 3 centuries before Chandragupta and this was what inspired Chanakya.

This apart, the cultural perception of a subcontinental identity was ever present, totally separate from political identity or political loyalties, since well before the Christian era.

The cement for this was Hinduism, its pilgrimage centres, its itinerant scholars, its gurukuls, its libraries in Nalanda and Takshashila and elsewhere, its holy men. Devotees of Lord Rama in South India did not see him as North Indian. And Adi Shankaracharya walked from Kerala to Kedarnath preaching Advaita all the way; nowhere was he seen as a strange south Indian. Nor was Mahadev, with his abode in the far, far north, seen as a North Indian deity to be treated with circumspection.

You must have read of the ancient dynasties of South India, dating since well before the advent of the Christian era, and you know that they too had a holistic concept of India. The Pallava emperors of the 7th century AD were fully aware of Ashoka the Great, and of their contemporaries, the Chalukyan emperor in the middle of the subcontinent and Harsha of Kanauj in the North.

This was not nationalism in the current sense, it was a shared sense of identity as residents of Bharatvarsha.

But there was also, already extant, the concept of a political empire spanning the whole subcontinent. It was to the credit of Chanakya and Chandragupta that they managed to weld all the assorted kingdoms and republics and principalities into a united Mauryan empire, by means both hard and soft. But it hardly lasted for 50 years after Ashoka's death. My own conviction is that it collapsed because the military and intelligence underpinning that is vital for any state was allowed to wither away once Ashoka adopted ahimsa as his motto for actual govemance. But of course no one ever mentions that!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: shailusri1983

Aunty at last caught up with the episode. Your analysis was very interesting and also riveting to read than the entire episode. If ever there was an eye closer and eye sore as a first episode, this one merited to take that title.

The script of the voice over could have been done in much better fashion instead of driving home the point that this is another JA 2 waiting in the wings. Poor Chandroo damned even before he gets the chance to be born to a Fate similar to Jodha's Jalal!

I slept through the entire yawn and snore worthy romance between Chottey Chandroo's parents. I bet that's why he decided to interrupt it by making his presence felt through that kick.

Then comes the Nand Kishore Peeping Tom bit at Mura leaving a very bad taste in the mouth.

I don't know how others felt about the speeches by the kings. They were definitely trying to emulate a Shakespearean Brutus and Mark Anthony and ended up being purely jingoistic!

Avantika, what can I say about her? Her intellect and brains probably never grew above her knees. Taste bhi koi cheez hoti hai! Kya use Nand Baba hi mile romance karne ko? The most outrageous bit for me in the entire episode was the BGM they gave during the Navantika hug. These two were hugging in a blah manner and a beautiful Shiva stotra was running in the background.

There was one thing which was consistent and beautiful throughout the episode. That was the magnificent sets. Mr Art Director please take a bow! Your work stood out throughout the entire episode!

PS: I really fail to understand this concept of Bharath as motherland! As far as I know, this feeling of all of us being one nation or state is recent. Patriotism in those times was very localized. Our ancestors of those times would have hardly visualized themselves as belonging to the same motherland. Feelings of nationalism were divided more along religious, linguistic lines or the individual states themselves.

The war cries these states used like 'Har Har Mahadev', 'Vazhga Chola Nadu', 'Vazga thamizagam', 'Jai bhavani', etc are a testimony to this attitude. I hardly know if they saw themselves as Indians or a single unified entity. That is why we regard Chanakya and Chandragupt for being truly great because they rose beyond these divisive tendencies and visualized a unified welfare state comprising the entire Indian subcontinent.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hi Shyamala.

Its been a while since your last writting. Now, straight to the point, excellent post, as always. You know very well my fascination for historical series, and I wasnt sure to watch this one, but then I was convinced for it just for the sake of entertainment, respecting your commandments.
My takes will be temporary short (until Rajat appears). So I will give the show a chance. And most important, no pressure, health comes first.

See ya😊

P.s: When it seems to get interesting, I hope to do my takes by using my multiple choice of color method
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Perfectly correct, Akka dear. It was R rated in parts, and not in the least the kind of stuff for Baby and Babloo. It seems you too were shocked, poor dear Akka ! I was not so much shocked as disgusted with that wretched woman's taste in men. Ugh...

Not to worry, things are bound to improve before the end of the week. Plus I am waiting for Rajat to make his entry, which cannot be more than a week or ten days off.

See you again soon!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: karkuzhali




Babloo: Baby'kka, did you see Chandranandini ?
Baby: No kutty..I can't.. It's for 'dults...
Babloo: Did grandma see it?
Bay: No.. She said that she is younger even to you...


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Posted: 8 years ago
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My dear Khalessi,

I am very pleased that you have turned up here. Welcome! I do hope you will stay with me as long as I am here. I am delighted that you liked this post so much.

Oh yes, I will be waiting for those coloured comments of yours. I remember them very well, especially the coral!

Yes, I have to take care not to overdo things, which is exactly what I am doing now, I am afraid! I have to see how to pace myself.

Shyamala


Originally posted by: khalessi75

Hi Shyamala.

Its been a while since your last writting. Now, straight to the point, excellent post, as always. You know very well my fascination for historical series, and I wasnt sure to watch this one, but then I was convinced for it just for the sake of entertainment, respecting your commandments.
My takes will be temporary short (until Rajat appears). So I will give the show a chance. And most important, no pressure, health comes first.

See ya😊

P.s: When it seems to get interesting, I hope to do my takes by using my multiple choice of color method

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Don't fret, my dear, as I have said to others above, things are bound to improve!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: abiariel

S aunty it's me fairyabi, ur analysis is splendid as always but I have the habit of going to bed before 10.15 , yesterday I was waiting for your post and mahesh's WU and while replying I was almost sleepy, just wanted to reply first😆😉and thought of discussing with u this morning😃

After watching the first epi I was damn sure ekta and her CVS haven't read even the first page of Wikipedia ant cgm but as u said history apart if I come to the show even it failed to reach my expectations especially which I stored for first epi
Even the portrayal of women now a days in the show just to spice up really sucks , I think avantika was the ek loti wife of her hubby but she had nine sons with other man that too a naabik but her husband had no idea abt it
I don't think dananandha was one of the nine nanda's they will be his sons , but don't know abt nandhini being avantika's daughter
Y the invader need the permission to invade that to from a common man when he came with his army

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Posted: 8 years ago
#66
Well, my dear, I have not seen Bahubali, but the precap was very filmy in any case. Clearly Chandragupta was not a 4 kg plus baby!😉

I am glad you liked this post. I too am here basically to see Rajat tackle a new role, and he will make it a new one, of that I am sure.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: skandi

nice post...I am just looking for rajat entry and his performance otherwise toh ektu mata is famous for changing story...JA is one of that...😃...precap toh was copy from bahubali...if ppl observe that catching kid in her single hand...😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hello everyone
I was interested in watching this show coz despite being a historical love story I thought of watching some history
But after first episode only I understood that it's my fault only
Well the voice over of Bharat Mata was really impressive
Arpit was impressive
But the acting by kings were little bit over
Precap- I think they are showing the birth of CGM as showed in CAS of like Ashok
Will watch the show for Rajat and Manoj as Chanakya (don't be surprised )
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sandhya my pet,

I never really had any hopes of your following either of them. As I wrote earlier on this thread, keeping of you youngsters in order is like chasing chickens round the farmyard, whatever you do, they always manage to get away!😆

No, no, my dear, you must not compare Chandragupta and Jalal in the matter of looks. Jalal was not made to look so hard and unyielding, and he was often allowed to look roguish. Then again, when he had his nose scrunched up like a misshapen potato to show rage, he looked awful. I should know, I have skewered him often enough for that!😉

You have seen only a few stills of Chandragupta, all from the same sequence of shots, meant to demonstrate the utmost hardness. We have to wait and see how he looks in movement and in varied moods. I am, for one thing, impressed by the extent to which he has made his upper body look toned and lean and muscular. It must have taken a lot of effort.

Besides, I am more interested in how he interprets the character than in how he looks, whether in the snankaksh or outside it. I can readily understand that for you kids, the priorities are different!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Aunty,


The first commandment is follow-able. By now after seeing a totally incapable Akbar and a Sadhu Chand-Ashok, India's 2 Great Emperors depending upon their priyasis to even keep themselves alive, all of our expectations of historical accuracies is zilch.

But the second is literally impossible. Comparisons on looks characters performances are inevitable. I for one already find CGM falling short of Jalal in the looks department. 😕

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Posted: 8 years ago
#69
Arpit? I thought he was to play King Padmanabhan of Kalinga? Surely he is not that awful creepy Nand? I don't think so.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: ankit-pandey24

Hello everyone
I was interested in watching this show coz despite being a historical love story I thought of watching some history
But after first episode only I understood that it's my fault only
Well the voice over of Bharat Mata was really impressive
Arpit was impressive
But the acting by kings were little bit over
Precap- I think they are showing the birth of CGM as showed in CAS of like Ashok
Will watch the show for Rajat and Manoj as Chanakya (don't be surprised )

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I too am delighted to have you back on my threads, Amina. Let us get together and decided to enjoy ourselves for as long as we can, despite the CVs!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: amina1

Hi Aunty,lovely 🤗 and to all my JA friends,haven't seen the episode as yet,but for me no history here ,its better to leave wharever little brain i have at aside and enjoy the show

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