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Posted: 9 years ago
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I want to discuss Ashok's lack of scheming. In the last episode when he was discussing his scheme, I was really thrilled because that doesn't happen very often. Ashok himself seemed pleased with himself for once having had a plan. It's really amusing because I have always understood a palace to have many schemes and plots going for the throne. But the only plots that seem to happen are from the enemies. Ashok being an integral part of the political affairs should be shown as more clever than that.

In fact now that Helena is gone, I don't know who will come up with any plots at all. Charumitra is not very cunning... She will probably go back to her black magic and sushim is also more direct. Siamak does have a plotting brain but he comes across as more of a coward to me. Lassandra might prove to be the vamp like someone said in another thread but what does that say about the Indian royalty? Are the foreigners better at this game and Indians just sentimental and simple-minded?

Ashok never even spies on these four people that he is sure about as being the enemies. It's amazing.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: astha36

I want to discuss Ashok's lack of scheming. In the last episode when he was discussing his scheme, I was really thrilled because that doesn't happen very often. Ashok himself seemed pleased with himself for once having had a plan. It's really amusing because I have always understood a palace to have many schemes and plots going for the throne. But the only plots that seem to happen are from the enemies. Ashok being an integral part of the political affairs should be shown as more clever than that.

In fact now that Helena is gone, I don't know who will come up with any plots at all. Charumitra is not very cunning... She will probably go back to her black magic and sushim is also more direct. Siamak does have a plotting brain but he comes across as more of a coward to me. Lassandra might prove to be the vamp like someone said in another thread but what does that say about the Indian royalty? Are the foreigners better at this game and Indians just sentimental and simple-minded?

Ashok never even spies on these four people that he is sure about as being the enemies. It's amazing.


Honestly I want the Mauryan brothers to separate and have their respective tracks. The story right now is too slow.

Ashok and Sushim should have their respective adventures and misadventures in their respective provinces. Ashok should be in Ujjain. Sushim should be in Taxilla. And Siyamak should go to Khurasan and consolidate his power.

Bindusar should have his own track and set of problems. I find it very disheartening to see a high caliber actor like Sameer Dharmadhikari reduced to portraying Bhondusar aka the most inept King in CAS. And Pallavi Subhash being reduced to doormat Dharma and KVK cheerleader.

The female characters should grow a spine and play relevant political roles for their respective spouses and sons. This is a historical. Not a SBS.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yeah it will make more sense if they go to different provinces. Right now if one more time ashok says that he's going to kill all the enemies I will personally contact the dialogue writers. He keeeps saying that but till yesterday he wasn't able to kill any one of them.
I think they should not show ashok so simple and shortsighted. Okay we know his goal if he says it once. Maybe if really needed he can say it again. But in each episode? He can not achieve it in one day. He cannot kill these people at sight. I really want him to act like the mid-20 would-be emperor who was strong, had a mind of his own, clever and ruthless.

We already have Bindusar for a simple-minded ruler. Now we want someone who can see through the conspiracies. If not as efficient as chanakya then atleast close. Btw wasn't radhagupt supposed to be taking chanakya's place in Ashok's life as an advisor? Right under his nose there is magic happening, Helena is alive and he has no proofs against anyone.
It's a rant but I was really wishing that once ashok turns into Chand he will become as cunning as Helena. No luck.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: astha36

It's a rant but I was really wishing that once ashok turns into Chand he will become as cunning as Helena. No luck.


Welcome to the club of unanimous disappointment.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Romance should take a back seat now so that he won't keep getting deviated from his mission. Kaurvaki should return to her kingdom for good.They should not show Ashok-Devi marriage too at this point.
Now I only want to see politics,scheming,cat and mouse game between ashok and the evil 4 for the next few months.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: astha36

Yeah it will make more sense if they go to different provinces. Right now if one more time ashok says that he's going to kill all the enemies I will personally contact the dialogue writers. He keeeps saying that but till yesterday he wasn't able to kill any one of them.

I think they should not show ashok so simple and shortsighted. Okay we know his goal if he says it once. Maybe if really needed he can say it again. But in each episode? He can not achieve it in one day. He cannot kill these people at sight. I really want him to act like the mid-20 would-be emperor who was strong, had a mind of his own, clever and ruthless.

We already have Bindusar for a simple-minded ruler. Now we want someone who can see through the conspiracies. If not as efficient as chanakya then atleast close. Btw wasn't radhagupt supposed to be taking chanakya's place in Ashok's life as an advisor? Right under his nose there is magic happening, Helena is alive and he has no proofs against anyone.
It's a rant but I was really wishing that once ashok turns into Chand he will become as cunning as Helena. No luck.

Ashok has shown his intelligence numerous time in the past while saving pp from enemies it is only post leap that the character has degraded kondana s track was nice one nd the cvs could hv done much better but instead of concentrating on one track they brought two to three tracks at a time i think that where peole lost intrest but what i feel is the competition track will end tonight or utmost it will stretch to ashok declining marriage with any of them kvk returning to kaling or to ashvi marriage but after that they will probably start with ujjain track where he goes as a viceory nd stops a major war this will not only give him chance to use his brains but will also highlight his leadership qualities moreover more than planning plotting this is the time where he shud try to prove that why he is rightful heir to the throne
Whatever it is let us hope for the best
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: babur1527


Welcome to the club of unanimous disappointment.

What i feel us that we will see the real chand avatar of ashok after dharma will be brutally killed vy sushim who sends assains to kill ashok s unborn child but dharma dies instead it will probably push him to the edge nd since then no one will be there to stop he would completely turn into a cruel nd heartless person
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Posted: 9 years ago
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No as a character Ashok has always been positive. That's fine but the kind of cunning that Helena had, she even beat chanakya in the plotting. Remember how chanakya had an elaborate spy system. I'm talking about that level of conspiracies. Instead of always trying to defend against the enemies why doesn't ashok go on the offensive with plots and schemes so that those four are on the backfoot.
Maybe I wanted a grey shade for this Chand track. But he keeps blaming those four without proof or acts foolishly so as to lose Bindusar's trust in the sabha. He needs to be less direct, have more layers and greater thought process behind his actions. Ruthless in word and deed.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Both Ashok and Sushim are extremely impulsive.They would rather hack at swords than wait for everything to resolve over time.Though Sushim being brought up at the Court and being Charu's son is more at ease with the plots and counter plots.He can play the game if he wants to.

Ashok on the other hand has a simplistic view towards justice and life.Perhaps it's due to his early years being away from Court and growing up under naive Dharma's care.He really got his political education only once he came under Chanakya's aegis.He should have caught up by now to the way the game has to be played.But the simple truth is that he hates the games played at the Court.He has in fact stated this once in front of Bindusar and the rest of the Court.For Ashok the heart trumps the head-every time.

Ashok believes that once he becomes the Samrat the games will go away.What he fails to realize now is that while the players may change the Court at Pataliputr will remain the same insidious treacherous place where the Game will still be played.

The CVs are not going to do away the romance any time soon.Just like they mishmashed the Kondana track with the Swayamvadhu contest, they'll try to please all segments of the audience at the same time by serving a buffet.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: astha36

No as a character Ashok has always been positive. That's fine but the kind of cunning that Helena had, she even beat chanakya in the plotting. Remember how chanakya had an elaborate spy system. I'm talking about that level of conspiracies. Instead of always trying to defend against the enemies why doesn't ashok go on the offensive with plots and schemes so that those four are on the backfoot.

Maybe I wanted a grey shade for this Chand track. But he keeps blaming those four without proof or acts foolishly so as to lose Bindusar's trust in the sabha. He needs to be less direct, have more layers and greater thought process behind his actions. Ruthless in word and deed.


As far as i have read history books.. and logically speaking showing Ashok to be a total white character is undigestable to me.. i wanted him to be a shrewd schemer

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